Denied Firearm Transfer?

[actionshooter]

Without sharing a physical address or marriage or medical things then smossy would have no legal connection. So he would not be a reason for dismissal. You security clearance would not hinder you. IF you have never been arrested or charged with assault or other serious crimes this would most likely be a clerical error

Even if they are living together or married, there is nothing legally from stopping her from buying a gun, she just couldn't bring it home or transport it with him. Also no authority can deny you "because they want too."

[Smossy]

Without sharing a physical address or marriage or medical things then smossy would have no legal connection. So he would not be a reason for dismissal. You security clearance would not hinder you. IF you have never been arrested or charged with assault or other serious crimes this would most likely be a clerical error

Even if they are living together or married, there is nothing legally from stopping her from buying a gun, she just couldn't bring it home or transport it with him. Also no authority can deny you "because they want too."

Exactly. Which we have worked hard to find a legal means of doing it this way. I've basically came to the conclusion that if she is ever with me, She will need no protection via firearm. Someone will have to get through my cold dead body before I let anyone lay they're fingers on her. But If Im not around, Shes limited to defending herself, Which I dont feel to great about.
I just want her to be safe is all.

[CementFinisher]

Without sharing a physical address or marriage or medical things then smossy would have no legal connection. So he would not be a reason for dismissal. You security clearance would not hinder you. IF you have never been arrested or charged with assault or other serious crimes this would most likely be a clerical error

Even if they are living together or married, there is nothing legally from stopping her from buying a gun, she just couldn't bring it home or transport it with him. Also no authority can deny you "because they want too."

[carpsniperg2]

My dad gets whacked everytime and my buddy has got whacked once as well.

My father has a guy that has the same name. Shuts him down everytime and he has to wait and wait and wait. It really sucks.

My buddies had something to do with the address on his drivers license being listed different then something. I can't remember what he said or how he worded it but it was something to so with his address.

[actionshooter]

My dad gets whacked everytime and my buddy has got whacked once as well.

My father has a guy that has the same name. Shuts him down everytime and he has to wait and wait and wait. It really sucks.

My buddies had something to do with the address on his drivers license being listed different then something. I can't remember what he said or how he worded it but it was something to so with his address.

I've seen it several times where people get delayed because of similar names. If it keeps happening apply for a UPIN number, its kinda like a good to go pass. The NICS operator will run that number and no more delays. The UPIN number goes on the 4473.

[csaaphill]

My typical tin foil responce is going to be this is goin'g to happen a lot more I think.  That asside it looks like the county or city as you stated are the ones denying it, so I'd be looking at them. Too having aquaintence with a knwn felon would have a lot to do with it I beleive and no offence on that either. With the feds monitoring these kinds of sites even if you haven't ever told anyone outside family friends etc they prolly know because if this site, or someone from here knows your name somehow and used that.
But ya I'd be writing the FBI and County and city Gov. This ones interesting so will like to keep up on it as well. Going to see a lot more of this kind of thing though.

[Lunchbox1981]

Having a security clearance would not do anything to help or hurt purchasing a gun. It can be many things, spelled your name wrong, Moved lately and not updated. But I do thank you as reading this made me remember my CCP expires on April 12th

Not true cause it has caused me problems.

I am required to have a NICS check completed annually and my clearance has never caused a delay.  And my investigations are very indepth.  I think that every situation is just a little different.  Best thing to do is just contact them and ask why.  Let us know how it goes.

[Lunchbox1981]

Having a security clearance would not do anything to help or hurt purchasing a gun. It can be many things, spelled your name wrong, Moved lately and not updated. But I do thank you as reading this made me remember my CCP expires on April 12th

Not true cause it has caused me problems.

I am required to have a NICS check completed annually and my clearance has never caused a delay.  And my investigations are very indepth.  I think that every situation is just a little different.  Best thing to do is just contact them and ask why.  Let us know how it goes.

I will state after reading the rest of the post that mine is done thru the Federal system only.  Therefore I have no experience at the County level.  Either way I hope it all wqorks out for you.

[firefighter4607]

I would wait until you hear about your CWP, if you get a letter saying that you were denied then go down to the sheriffs office and see why. Then you will know what you need to do to clear things up. One more question is do you live within the city limits or do you live in the county?

[Igottanewknee]

I have a concealed carry permit, I work out at JBLM, and I've been delayed every time I wanted to get a firearm. They (all gun shops) release the gun after three days if I remember, so no big deal. I wanted to buy a rifle for my son to use about seven or eight years ago from Walmart, and the sorry thing about that is Wally World would not release the gun after the three days. Said it was policy not to give it even though I was not "denied". Hate it!! Yea, I don't shop there anymore.

[Arnbo]

You should apply for your concealed weapons permit, then you wont have to wait to purchase handguns (unless the laws have changed).

Until you get the issue fixed through NICs you probably will get denied for a CPL also.

    my name was on the  FBIs Anti- Terrorist group or whatever it is called
 Andthey wanted to know about the 182 Cessna I owned. I informed him that I owned
 No such airplane and I do not have a common name either.He asked a few more
Questions and never heard back from them. I am sure it just a simple technicality.
 In paper work Smossys Girl and all will work out for you.

[Mike450r]

You should apply for your concealed weapons permit, then you wont have to wait to purchase handguns (unless the laws have changed).

Until you get the issue fixed through NICs you probably will get denied for a CPL also.

   

She was told it was Pierce county holding it up which means it most likely has to do with it being a pistol purchase and nothing from NICs.  I am willing to bet if she was to purchase a long gun the approval would fly right through.  The local background check for a pistol purchase is more thorough.

A very large number of felonies unless prosecuted federally haven't been reported to NICs and there are tons of felons out there that hunt with and purchase rifles because they don't get flagged in the federal system.  The idea that a CCP would help may be wrong also since Pierce county makes that decision as well.

I say call the county and find out what is causing the denial.  I really doubt it has anything to do with the federal check.

[turkeyfeather]

Having a security clearance would not do anything to help or hurt purchasing a gun. It can be many things, spelled your name wrong, Moved lately and not updated. But I do thank you as reading this made me remember my CCP expires on April 12th

Not true cause it has caused me problems.

I am required to have a NICS check completed annually and my clearance has never caused a delay.  And my investigations are very indepth.  I think that every situation is just a little different.  Best thing to do is just contact them and ask why.  Let us know how it goes.

I have contacted them. Actually had my attorney friend do it. He was informed that NICS showed a previous FBI investigation. So they hold it to find out why. When it comes back saying it was for military purposes then I get cleared. That's why I got a UPIN and no longer have an issue.

[Becky]

SORRY THIS RESPONSE IS LONG... a lot of you have very very good information and I wanted to touch on some things brought up and thank you to everyone trying to give me some good information to think about and try.

I have never been denied but I did get delayed all the time. And when I dug into why I found out it was because of a security clearance. Apparently a FBI background check raise red flags cause it doesn't show why you were investigated. You should get paperwork to apply for the voluntary appeal file. Cause unfortunately getting a conceal permit will not necessarily make this problem go away. I still got delayed after getting my permit. Once I got a appeal file number no more problems.

I got told by the guy at Cabela's that his previous security clearance actually caused him more problems when he tried to get a firearm. Seems so weird to me, I'd think it'd be the opposite.

Odd because I have held 1 all the way back to working on the B-2 stealth when it was a "black" program. I have never been denied or put on hold I wonder what the difference is?

That's funny you say that, my step-dad was on the same program, same security clearance as you, just bought a 9mm handgun a couple weeks ago and a hunting rifle 2 months ago and had NO issues. His security clearance is inactive now though, but I still live at home with them and he had no problem with the same home address.

By chance do you happen to be in the military for that clearance, did you recently renew your clearance? if so this is strange, I have never been denied a gun purchase.   

I work civilian military contracts, they are our customers but no I'm not in the military or anything. I honestly couldn't answer you if it's been renewed lately, but I don't believe so. I've been with the same company since I graduated college in 2007, that's when I got my clearance and online it says "An individual is normally subject to periodic reinvestigation at a minimum of every 5 years for a Top Secret level clearance and every 10 years for a Secret level clearance." It hasn't been 10 years yet.

A simple mistake on the application could be the problem.  My wife, an officer of the law, lol, was denied in jan. I laughed so hard but it was a app mistake.......  Check into that!!

How did you check into it? I tried calling all the numbers I could find...

Good luck smossys-girl. I hope the firearm wasnt too unique, and you can purchase one like it in a few days when this gets worked out with the county.

It took me 3 months to find it but then again, I don't really have ANY experience tracking down specific guns so I'm sure some of you experts could re-find it in a heartbeat haha.

I would wait until you hear about your CWP, if you get a letter saying that you were denied then go down to the sheriffs office and see why. Then you will know what you need to do to clear things up. One more question is do you live within the city limits or do you live in the county?

I think I might have to now, because at least they will send you paperwork saying why they denied it and how to appeal it. No I live outside of city limits, "unincorporated Pierce County".

[Becky]

Does anyone know who to write in for a STATE appeal?

"Please be advised the agency which processed your NICS transaction is required to have an appeal process. You may make application first to the denying agency, i.e., either the state or local law enforcement agency which processed your transaction. As an alternative to appealing directly through the denying agency, you may elect to submit your appeal request to the FBI NICS Section."

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/appeals/nics_appeals_brochure_eng

I'd rather go at the state level since they were the denying agency, but I can't find any information.