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$$ for string change?
« on: April 07, 2013, 10:35:42 AM »
how much do y'all normally pay (or charge, as the case may be) to get work done on your bows?

I just got my string replaced (with my own string) and am wondering how much other shops normally charge for this service.
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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 10:38:10 AM »
25 bucks

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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 09:03:08 PM »
I paid $25, also.

I dunno...it just seemed like a lot.  I do my own tuning and last time my string was toast I ended up buying a new bow.  So i've never actually paid somebody to do it before and got a bit of sticker shock.  I used to go to the closest Sportsman's warehouse/wholesale sports.  they served some stuff for free and changed my draw length for free, and helped me out a lot, and a freaking week before they closed the guy said he would change a string for $10.  Consequently, i kept going back and buying stuff there.  bought targets, calls, wax, glue, stabilizer, sling, broadheads, cammies, boots, meat grinder, even a freaking gun and cleaning kit and targets and the list goes on and on.  On the flipside...Cabela's was rude and dismissive of me when I tried to get my draw length adjusted.  I don't buy jack squat from them.  ever.

SW/WS is closed now and I don't know if they will reopen, so I went somewhere new hoping to find "my" new archery shop.  Not in a hurry to return for a 2nd time, though.  Dude said they charge $5 just to put a peep in....really?  I feel nickel and dimed.

I do not want to imply that people that provide services should not be allowed to make profit.  I realize fully that is priority #1.  Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I could have told all my archery buddies to go to this shop (now that SW/WS is closed) but now....meh.  I question the long term wisdom.  I doubt I will return.

This is now my entire recommendation (or lack thereof)......meh.





I left the name and location out intentionally.  I'm not into trashing anybody publicly.
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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 09:55:29 PM »
its pretty much the standard for archery shops 25 for most stuff. 5 for a peep seems reasonable.  thing you have to remember is there is a pretty big dead season and they have to make all their money for the whole year between about July and October. they make a little in the other months but not enough to keep a shop open and running. just like boat repair shops. we charge 102 an hour. because that's the only way you can make enough money to keep the shop open year round. otherwise we would have to close down for 6 months or more out of the year then when your jet sled breaks down in January you'll have to wait for next may to bring it in to a shop to get it fixed. im pretty sure you'd be a little upset if you broke your bow in late October and couldn't get it fixed till next July and more then willing to pay 5 bucks at that point for a peep when you know your whole late season is on the line.
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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2013, 09:58:26 PM »
That's what I'm going to pay this week for the same thing.  I have no problem with it.
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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2013, 09:58:45 PM »
Remember.....always buy your gear from the shop that is doing the work on your bow.  It will save you the shop fee in most cases.   :twocents: 

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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2013, 10:55:59 PM »
thanks, guys.

I feel reassured that I did not spend $25 foolishly.  But it does not inspire me to return.

I still think it would have been in their better interest long term to make a first time customer (and I was OBVIOUSLY a first time customer) feel like they gave a damn about my future business.

I guess i'm just a penny pinching tight-wad.  I find the best deal on the internet and install the stuff myself.  I buy shafts and cut/fletch them myself.  I am freaking cheap, i suppose. I harvest 140 lbs. of elk meat each year and squabble over lost broadheads.

But I haven't bought a bowpress.  I decided long ago that even $25 every few years was way cheaper than buying a bowpress.
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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2013, 11:05:52 PM »
What do you feel the fee should have been? $25 seems reasonable to me, but then I don't know much about working on bows. I could see it taking a while to install a new string. Heck I pay $20 for a haircut and that only takes about 20 minutes.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2013, 11:25:22 PM by bobcat »

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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2013, 11:23:14 PM »
 
Remember.....always buy your gear from the shop that is doing the work on your bow.  It will save you the shop fee in most cases.   :twocents:
:yeah: I buy my arrows from where i bought my bow, an have always been well taken care of.
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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2013, 01:49:31 AM »
Was that your peep or a peep you were thinking of buying there?  Was the $5.00 for peep and install or just install?

Washington State's minimum wage increased this year to $9.19 per hour.  After the business pays it's state and federal penalties for having said employee that minimum wage is closer to $11.00 per hour.  And most archery shops pay employees much more than that if they have skills. 

Nontubing peep installation tends to be one of the more time consuming services an archery shop offers.  Place bow in $600.00 press, split strands, install peep, tie in safety tie (should be done though some do not), remove bow from press, have archer draw the bow, adjust peep height, put bow back in press, serve peep into place with $1.00 worth of serving thread, remove bow from press, have archer shoot a few arrows to check peep alignment, put bow back in press, rotate string, remove bow from press, repeat as often as it takes to get rotation correct...  And then if the archer has had a new set of string and cables installed they likely will have to repeat a few more times over the next 100 shots until string has settled.  Often the archer does not like his original peep location and another $1.00 in material and additional time to rotate is involved.

At $5.00 for the service the shop will rarely break even on materials plus the employees wage and employers wage penalties.  Let alone actually make a profit.  I'd rather pay $10.00 and have a good archery shop stay in business than get a bargain at a different archery shop every few years.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2013, 02:11:17 AM by RadSav »
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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2013, 10:38:12 PM »
i see your points radsav.  and i agree.  but....

when i walked in and said i wanted a string change, i got a sigh and the *censored* i don't wanna aura.  i used my old peep and got a little bit of help to see if it was in the right place, never shot an arrow. 

the customer service you described would have been worth $25.  and probably more.  even to a tightwad.
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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2013, 12:54:42 AM »
i see your points radsav.  and i agree.  but....

when i walked in and said i wanted a string change, i got a sigh and the *censored* i don't wanna aura.  i used my old peep and got a little bit of help to see if it was in the right place, never shot an arrow. 

the customer service you described would have been worth $25.  and probably more.  even to a tightwad.

So you paid $25.00 for the string put on and then another $5 to install the peep?  Or $25.00 total?  Just trying to clarify so I understand completely.

Unfortunately I meet quite a few business owners and their employees that drive away more business with poor attitudes than they attract.  I like to give second chances to businesses that look to have what I want and need, but there are times when the attitude is so bad I just can not go back regardless of what they have to offer in the way of goods.  Not even a bargain is worth that.  It's sad that it happens so often.  Especially in the archery industry where there are so few choices.

I remember going into a nice archery shop not long ago to make a delivery.  Only one employee there so I had to wait to get paperwork signed since I had followed a potential paying customer into the store.  The customer was one of those rare ones with cash in hand and the decision of what he wanted already made up.  In otherwords a dream customer for a business owner - right?  The customer, who had obviously been in the store before, walked right to the ten Bear bows on the wall and said, "I want to get this Bear Legion and a dozen arrows."  From a distance I'm thinking Man!  This customer is a dream come true ;)  But the employee walked away from him while saying, "You don't want one of those.  They're a piece of sh#t!  You want one of these (as he pulled a $1,200 Hoyt from the rack).  The customer politely said, "No this is the one I can afford.  I've shot it and I like it."  The employee once again voiced his opinion of the bow the customer wanted until this "dream customer" turned away and walked out the door.

As I was getting my paperwork signed I couldn't help but ask why he hadn't just given the customer the bow he wanted.  The response was shocking, "Oh that guy!  I've seen him in here a few times.  He's always looking for the cheap stuff.  He'll be back when he's ready to buy a real bow."  I grabbed my paperwork and walk away shaking my head thinking to myself, "I should raise my prices to this guy and charge him for delivery."

On my way home I stopped by to see if my good friend Battleready at Sportsman's Warehouse wanted to get some lunch.  Now I'm not more than 15 minutes behind this customer that left the proshop.  When I enter the store I see Battleready and this guy from earlier at the customer service desk shaking hands.  Battleready says, "I'll have that ready for you in about an hour." (so much for lunch :chuckle:)   In about 15 minutes the dream customer bought a R2H bow, dozen arrows, nice release, string wax, a RAD peep :), a dozen field points, a package of Muzzy broadheads and what I think was a Black Hole target.  I'm just guessing, but I'd say he probably dropped seven bills in 15 minutes.  That's about $45.00 per minute of Battleready's time.  And best of all he walked out with a big smile on his face.  Everything the pro shop could have had if he'd only listened to the customer and not been an a-hole.

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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2013, 08:36:59 AM »
Spot on!   :tup:  My daddy always told me " You'll catch more flys with honey than you will with vinegar."  I never did figure out what to do with all the flys I caught though.  :dunno:  :chuckle:
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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2013, 09:19:38 AM »
Im in the same boat with service. Its not that my local shop isnt helpful. Its just that I havent had good luck with his setup and tuning.

I need a new string and Peep.
I am thinking about just sending it back to XXX were I bought the bow and all accessories and having Cory make a G string for it.

The Peep has never been the same as the first year out of Cory's shop. Once it started rotating and pissing me off I tried to have my local shop fix it but it never was the same. They couldent get it right. Granted my string was streched Im sure, but Id think they could still get my peep right.

I finally got fed up and put a peep with a tube on. I hate it cause its loud and just too much going on.

I dont trust my locals shop so much for this kind of stuff. They actually said to go back to the tubing cause its hard to get the peep perfect, and keep it that way.

So now Im not sure if I should try another shop or just send it to XXX. If I send it to XXX Ill have to go to pick it up as we will need to set the peep with me there. Its a 2.5 hour drive for me.

Would love to find someone local who is good at this stuff. Really good!






 

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Re: $$ for string change?
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2013, 09:38:04 AM »
You shouldnt need to be present to have the peep done.....he just needs to take a measurement from the nock point on the string to the peep.....

I change my own strings and have all measurements logged so I can set up and never have issues, all by using measurements after initial set up.

 


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