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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2013, 02:02:48 PM »
Hm, Interesting.. What rig is that?

Think Ill be pleadin' the 5th on that one...

...But,  from what I have heard, it involves tying a corkie behind the hook on the tag from the bumper knot, so the hook floats point down with nothing between it and any... It is illegal. Law states hook must be attached to or behind lure, not lure behind hook.
lol never heard of that, not even sure I can put together what you mean.
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2013, 02:09:20 PM »
I dont get it either Smossy. Is he implicating that its illegal to place a corky above your hook?...lol

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2013, 02:37:01 PM »
I dont get it either Smossy. Is he implicating that its illegal to place a corky above your hook?...lol
No Its a hook, infront of your corky. Like your line, a hook, then corky at the end.... Im not even seeing how that is possible or would even work?
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2013, 02:51:05 PM »
I have never heard of someone Plunking with corky and yarn.
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2013, 03:21:09 PM »
I have never heard of someone Plunking with corky and yarn.
He means with a plunking style setup. 3 way hookup with a leader on the bottom holding your weight instead of directly attached to the line/swivel
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2013, 04:56:04 PM »
We used to use a spreader to separate the weight from the hook. Depending on water conditions we would use several different set ups. We had pretty good success plunking on the Penninsula river systems.

We always used lighter line connecting the weight. So if you get hung up on the bottom you could bust it free, and keep most of your gear.

For low clear water a long leader, small corky or spin and glow and a dime size piece of roe. If the water was flowing good and had color we would shorten the leader, use a bigger hook and go with a large spin and glow. Topped of with a healthy chunk of roe or sandshrimp.

You can pick up the spreaders at any sporting goods store. They look like "L's" and come in different gauges of wire.

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We even had success with light spoons behind the spreader as well.
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2013, 06:09:09 PM »
I dont get it either Smossy. Is he implicating that its illegal to place a corky above your hook?...lol

Sorry if my post was unclear. It is illegal to place a corky below your hook. Some enterprisizing snaggers in SW Wash. figured out a way to "plunk" (hold the rod, but not drift) with their weight basically set on the bottom, a leader with a corky (usually black) tied behind a good sized hook. By behind I mean actually behind- like where you put your yarn. The corky was tied behind the hook on an extra tag from the standard bumper knot so it rode about 2 inches behind the hook. Any salmon bumping the leader could be quickly impaled (don't try this at home). Common on the Washougal and other rivers (with some variations), hence, "Washougal fly".

It actually resulted in an official rule change several years ago (from regs):
Anti-Snagging Rule:
 "Except when fishing with a buoyant lure (with no weights added to the line or lure), or trolling from a vessel or floating device, terminal fishing gear is restricted to a lure or bait with one single-point hook. Hooks must measure 3⁄4" or less from point to shank, and must be attached to or below the lure or bait. Weights may not be attached below or less than 12" above the lure or bait."
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2013, 07:13:35 PM »
I dont get it either Smossy. Is he implicating that its illegal to place a corky above your hook?...lol

Sorry if my post was unclear. It is illegal to place a corky below your hook. Some enterprisizing snaggers in SW Wash. figured out a way to "plunk" (hold the rod, but not drift) with their weight basically set on the bottom, a leader with a corky (usually black) tied behind a good sized hook. By behind I mean actually behind- like where you put your yarn. The corky was tied behind the hook on an extra tag from the standard bumper knot so it rode about 2 inches behind the hook. Any salmon bumping the leader could be quickly impaled (don't try this at home). Common on the Washougal and other rivers (with some variations), hence, "Washougal fly".

It actually resulted in an official rule change several years ago (from regs):
Anti-Snagging Rule:
 "Except when fishing with a buoyant lure (with no weights added to the line or lure), or trolling from a vessel or floating device, terminal fishing gear is restricted to a lure or bait with one single-point hook. Hooks must measure 3⁄4" or less from point to shank, and must be attached to or below the lure or bait. Weights may not be attached below or less than 12" above the lure or bait."
Ohh, must be why someone said something about my satsop fly... its no modificationx like that, typical drift fishing setup but with no *yarn and just pipe cleaner wrapped from the eye of the hook down the shaft untill the bend starts, then thats where u end the pipe cleaner. It helps it float more horizontal in the water instead of more the 90 degree style with a standard corky. It gives it enough bouyancy to not want to float completely but not want to sink either.
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2013, 09:55:44 AM »
if that post wasn't a troll, i'm at a loss for words...
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Just make sure you tie the corky below the hook.....

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2013, 05:24:54 PM »
Ok. I get it. I have never heard of putting the corky after the hook. I assume it is legal still on a double hook set up with the corky in the middle.

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2013, 06:51:11 PM »
ok, i'll explain to those that didn't get it.  that type of rig is very popular with the snagger/flosser crowd in places like the s-curves on the satsop, skokomish, nisqually, humptulips kalama etc.  big hook, with some minimal kind of "attractant" to give them a chance of defending themselves when accused of snagging by a game warden("i swear i'm getting bit 4 times every drift, that's why i'm setting the hook so much!")

to answer the original question, you're better off plunking a spin-glo or plug of some kind, usually with bait(spin-glo and eggs is dynamite for kings and silvers).  easiest way is to set it up with a snap swivel and pyramid sinker on the bottom, then put a swivel at the depth you'd like to fish, and a large bead on top of it.  cast that out at a downstream angle, then take your leader(with a good snap like a duolock)and clip it on the mainline.  it will slide down and stop at the bead.  this keeps you from ending up with a tangled mess when casting.  then sit back, crack open a cold one and wait for that rod to bury!
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2013, 09:31:01 PM »
Ok. I get it. I have never heard of putting the corky after the hook. I assume it is legal still on a double hook set up with the corky in the middle.

Not if the "anti-snagging rule" is in place (many rivers during salmon season it is). Then you can only use a single.
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2013, 12:12:03 AM »
ok, i'll explain to those that didn't get it.  that type of rig is very popular with the snagger/flosser crowd in places like the s-curves on the satsop, skokomish, nisqually, humptulips kalama etc.  big hook, with some minimal kind of "attractant" to give them a chance of defending themselves when accused of snagging by a game warden("i swear i'm getting bit 4 times every drift, that's why i'm setting the hook so much!")

to answer the original question, you're better off plunking a spin-glo or plug of some kind, usually with bait(spin-glo and eggs is dynamite for kings and silvers).  easiest way is to set it up with a snap swivel and pyramid sinker on the bottom, then put a swivel at the depth you'd like to fish, and a large bead on top of it.  cast that out at a downstream angle, then take your leader(with a good snap like a duolock)and clip it on the mainline.  it will slide down and stop at the bead.  this keeps you from ending up with a tangled mess when casting.  then sit back, crack open a cold one and wait for that rod to bury!
Ohhh, no wonder there are so many haters on the Satsop. I fish the S-curves also. Had a dude threaten to kill me one day saying "Its illegal to fish this water, This is my land, don't step foot on it again or ill kill your...." I was like wtf? Yeah maybe on the OTHER side of the river its your land. Ive never seen that setup out there though but maybe that's why everyone keeps they're distance... I've nailed some good fish there about 2 years ago.. I never really fish with scent though. :dunno: Maybe what I was doing back then was not legal? Drifting with just a corky?
« Last Edit: June 25, 2013, 12:01:21 PM by Smossy »
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2013, 06:44:37 AM »
If you are salmon fishing with just a corky there is a 99% chance you are flossing.  Others will have different opinions, but there is a reason you see exactly zero guides drifting corkies for salmon.

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2013, 08:25:43 AM »
And the s-curves has been one of the biggest snag/floss fests for a looong time.
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