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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2013, 08:44:35 AM »
ok, i'll explain to those that didn't get it.  that type of rig is very popular with the snagger/flosser crowd in places like the s-curves on the satsop, skokomish, nisqually, humptulips kalama etc.  big hook, with some minimal kind of "attractant" to give them a chance of defending themselves when accused of snagging by a game warden("i swear i'm getting bit 4 times every drift, that's why i'm setting the hook so much!")

to answer the original question, you're better off plunking a spin-glo or plug of some kind, usually with bait(spin-glo and eggs is dynamite for kings and silvers).  easiest way is to set it up with a snap swivel and pyramid sinker on the bottom, then put a swivel at the depth you'd like to fish, and a large bead on top of it.  cast that out at a downstream angle, then take your leader(with a good snap like a duolock)and clip it on the mainline.  it will slide down and stop at the bead.  this keeps you from ending up with a tangled mess when casting.  then sit back, crack open a cold one and wait for that rod to bury!
Wow ...This thread made me dizzy  :dunno: :chuckle: This happens all over the state  :dunno: :chuckle: I prefer to catch them by the mouth ...but their lies another problem ...when the professional ( FLOSSER) catches them he usually gets them threw the mouth ...usually done in shallow water where the fish swims threw the line and gets it caught in his mouth ...I know of one river where they will have to be using a Circle Hook this year So it helps prevent the jiggers from cleaning out the river  :chuckle: :chuckle: Can not wait to witness this  :yeah: :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2013, 09:07:20 AM »
ok, i'll explain to those that didn't get it.  that type of rig is very popular with the snagger/flosser crowd in places like the s-curves on the satsop, skokomish, nisqually, humptulips kalama etc.  big hook, with some minimal kind of "attractant" to give them a chance of defending themselves when accused of snagging by a game warden("i swear i'm getting bit 4 times every drift, that's why i'm setting the hook so much!")

to answer the original question, you're better off plunking a spin-glo or plug of some kind, usually with bait(spin-glo and eggs is dynamite for kings and silvers).  easiest way is to set it up with a snap swivel and pyramid sinker on the bottom, then put a swivel at the depth you'd like to fish, and a large bead on top of it.  cast that out at a downstream angle, then take your leader(with a good snap like a duolock)and clip it on the mainline.  it will slide down and stop at the bead.  this keeps you from ending up with a tangled mess when casting.  then sit back, crack open a cold one and wait for that rod to bury!
Wow ...This thread made me dizzy  :dunno: :chuckle: This happens all over the state  :dunno: :chuckle: I prefer to catch them by the mouth ...but their lies another problem ...when the professional ( FLOSSER) catches them he usually gets them threw the mouth ...usually done in shallow water where the fish swims threw the line and gets it caught in his mouth ...I know of one river where they will have to be using a Circle Hook this year So it helps prevent the jiggers from cleaning out the river  :chuckle: :chuckle: Can not wait to witness this  :yeah: :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2013, 11:33:28 AM »
Please tell me they changed the Quil!
If we're thinking of the same Quil (Quilcene) it is single barbless and have to be hooked inside the mouth.  But it typically isn't the sporties that are usually dragging rows of treble hooks, and filling up kid pools in the back of trucks with snagged fish.

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2013, 12:03:04 PM »
How else would you fish for them besides floating eggs then? 99% of the people on all rivers use corky/yarn...? Im confused.
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2013, 01:07:46 PM »
How else would you fish for them besides floating eggs then? 99% of the people on all rivers use corky/yarn...? Im confused.

The implication there is that most salmon caught on straight corky or corky/yarn are flossed or lined as it used to be known. For the most I agree. But we'll never really know.

On a river like the Puyallup, where there is basically zero visibility at times, it may be the most productive method, and I do not consider it non-sporting at all. The main variable  that increases hook-ups is leader length.

In clearer water there are far more effective methods when salmon are non-disturbed: bait,spoons, spinners, jigs. If you get away from masses of people, you will do better with those methods.

Skok fish bite well, but are hard to find un-disturbed (hence the reliance on flossing). Nisqually kings are notorious non- biters. I'd feel lucky if I flossed one.
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2013, 01:17:00 PM »
So to floss I need a long leader 3 to 6 feet and a corky? Do I drift half way threw a hole and "set the hook"?

Not saying that Im going to use it but I may. Im not sure how I feel about it untell iI have tryed it.
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2013, 01:17:25 PM »
How else would you fish for them besides floating eggs then? 99% of the people on all rivers use corky/yarn...? Im confused.

The implication there is that most salmon caught on straight corky or corky/yarn are flossed or lined as it used to be known. For the most I agree. But we'll never really know.

On a river like the Puyallup, where there is basically zero visibility at times, it may be the most productive method, and I do not consider it non-sporting at all. The main variable  that increases hook-ups is leader length.

In clearer water there are far more effective methods when salmon are non-disturbed: bait,spoons, spinners, jigs. If you get away from masses of people, you will do better with those methods.

Skok fish bite well, but are hard to find un-disturbed (hence the reliance on flossing). Nisqually kings are notorious non- biters. I'd feel lucky if I flossed one.
Nisqually is mostly where I fish. Thanks for clearing that up. Made me think I was a snagger or something? I floss for the mouth, If its not in the mouth obviously it goes back in the water... I thought that's just how it worked. You can snag fish while "thinking to get a bump and snagging a neighbor fish". Which like I said obviously would go back in the water. This is just how I learned to fish and how I've seen 99% of the other people on the river fish. Occasionally you'll see the braided line here and there and to me that's unethical unless floating eggs.
Ill admit though, Ive never tried spoons or anything like that in the more clear water like the satsop. I don't know much about them.
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2013, 01:19:24 PM »
So to floss I need a long leader 3 to 6 feet and a corky? Do I drift half way threw a hole and "set the hook"?

Not saying that Im going to use it but I may. Im not sure how I feel about it untell iI have tryed it.
Well what I do, not saying its the right way I guess. Ill wait untill I feel a good tug on my line then return with a small jerk back. If you have a longer pole like a 10 footer like I do you dont need to whip it half way across the sky to get a hookset. Gotta keep in mind, the longer the pole. The longer your sets will be, so the less you will need to work. A small yank will give you a good 3 foot set atleast.
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2013, 01:24:03 PM »
Anyone who flosses is a snagger.  It is that simple.  If you aren't trying to get them to bite, then you must be trying to snag them without them biting.  It doesn't matter it is in the head or the ass, you are a snagger.

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2013, 01:26:01 PM »
So to floss I need a long leader 3 to 6 feet and a corky? Do I drift half way threw a hole and "set the hook"?

Not saying that Im going to use it but I may. Im not sure how I feel about it untell iI have tryed it.

Don't floss.  Learn to actually fish, not snag.

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2013, 01:33:13 PM »
flossing & snagging essentially the same thing.  One requires a tiny amount of skill and the other so easy a caveman could do it.

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2013, 01:33:19 PM »
Anyone who flosses is a snagger.  It is that simple.  If you aren't trying to get them to bite, then you must be trying to snag them without them biting.  It doesn't matter it is in the head or the ass, you are a snagger.
Guess Im a snagger then. Might want to stay away from me. :chuckle:
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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2013, 01:40:01 PM »
Anyone who flosses is a snagger.  It is that simple.  If you aren't trying to get them to bite, then you must be trying to snag them without them biting.  It doesn't matter it is in the head or the ass, you are a snagger.
Guess Im a snagger then. Might want to stay away from me. :chuckle:

Some people floss because they don't know better.  Others floss when they know better but aren't good enough fisherman to make the fish bite.  Which do you want to be?

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2013, 01:43:35 PM »
When done just to get a fish in the smoker flossing doesn't bother me,  and slob salmon snaggers are the norm anymore so I am numb to it.

Steelheading slobs really get me fired up though.  Some things are just sacred.

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Re: salmon corky/ plunking
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2013, 01:44:53 PM »
Anyone who flosses is a snagger.  It is that simple.  If you aren't trying to get them to bite, then you must be trying to snag them without them biting.  It doesn't matter it is in the head or the ass, you are a snagger.
Guess Im a snagger then. Might want to stay away from me. :chuckle:

Some people floss because they don't know better.  Others floss when they know better but aren't good enough fisherman to make the fish bite.  Which do you want to be?
Im probably the first one being as I don't have friends or family to teach me. I've learned all from first hand knowledge and never found HW until Jan of this year. I've fished my whole life in lakes and ponds, but never chased salmon until 2011 when I found my love for the outdoors. Definitely learned alot though since then.
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