ak-47 vs ar15

[pashok23]

Hey guys.thinking to get myself a gun in the future, thinking eather ak-47 or ar15.
what you guys think? Which gun I should get? Thanks in advance

[Fowlweather25]

AR for sure, if you want the larger caliber, go with the AR-10

[pashok23]

AR for sure, if you want the larger caliber, go with the AR-10

what caliber is ar10?

[Fowlweather25]

.308

[762Armo]

I like both, but I prefer the AK. It's a personal choice, try to shoot both, then make your own decision. Don't rely on an online forum to make that decision.

[sebek556]

Have shot most variations of both. I'd choose a AR over ak any day. But as suggested above go to a range that has both and try them out for yourself.

[j_h_nimrod]

If you get an AK-47 then you get a utilitarian, inaccurate, ugly, simple, and utterly reliably rifle shooting a moderately powered 7.62x39 cartridge. Mounting a scope is only moderately effective, ammo is somewhat easy to come by as are parts but ver little assecories.

With the AR you get a ver versatile platform shooting bullets from .204 up to .500 Beowolf. A thousand options for barrel, upper receiver, action, stock, magazine, etc.

If you want to waste lots of money shooting at (and usually missing ) Big Gulp cups at the range then get the AK.  If you want a versatile, readily available, easily modifyable, with many choices that are relatively cheap to shoot rifle then go for the AR.  If I really thought I would need it for an end of society survival rifle then the AK would probably be tops though.

Really depends on why you want the gun.

[snowpack]

What application do you want it for?
Hunting small game or big game, home defense, match shoots?
If reliability after any weather or falling in water/mud will be an issue, then I'd suggest AK.

[FC]

Definitely look at the AK's, I have both including a varminter style AR that I built. It has astonishing accuracy, is amazingly easy to hit small targets at range with and is just an all around treat to shoot. My AK is a GP 1975 built with mostly new parts. The trigger needed serious help, the recoil spring needed to be replaced after a few hundred rounds and I changed out the stock to one with an adjustable cheek piece. The result is a rifle that points fast and is easy to get a repeatable and fast cheek weld. With stock iron sights and general bulk ammo from wally world it shoots roughly 2" groups at 100 yards. I've beat the snot out of that gun and it keeps right on ticking. If I had to head out to the woods with only one gun to survive it would be a close 2nd to my Savage MK II 22 rifle.

[Biggerhammer]

A AK isn't even in the same class as a AR, but AK's have their place.

[pashok23]

Thanks guys

[Special T]

An AK has the ballistics of a 30-30 good out to about 150 yards. My Brother used his as a brush/timber gun for deer. There are many different grades of AK from the cheep stamped receiver to the expensive milled factory ones in Russia. A good middle of the road AK would be a Romanian one. Its well know for throwing lead down range and ALWAYS working A real waste to use this gun with anything other than iron sites IMO.

AR's are the Ruger 10-22 of the big boy world, and yo can get or make one that fits your desire, just bring the cash.

[mountainman]

Apples and oranges...get one of each, they both have thier place. The ak the Glock of the rifle world, the ar more the 1911. Accuracy versus reliability is probably the most basic way to differentiate

[pianoman9701]

This may help in your decision making, especially if you like to combine shooting with culinary prowess.

AK-47 Bacon Sundae

[wildmanoutdoors]

 

Funny!

[fishinmike]

mmmm bacon

[pianoman9701]

The AK-47, IMHO, beats the heck out of the M-16/AR-15 platform for reliability. I think it beats the M-14, and that goes a long, long way.

[Special T]

Apples and oranges...get one of each, they both have thier place. The ak the Glock of the rifle world, the ar more the 1911. Accuracy versus reliability is probably the most basic way to differentiate

I thought the origianl 1911 was designed to shoot under most condiditons even after being dropped in mud?

[follow maggie]

What are you going to use it for?  Plinking or a fun day at the range, both will please since they're reliable, easy to shoot and can burn up a lot of money fast.  If you're looking for accuracy, the nod goes to the AR

[pashok23]

Target practice and coyote hunting

[sebek556]

well then AR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  223 ye a good yote round, and you can find the again.

[Simcoe hunter]

AR for use in filling tags.  Better accuracy, great money pit with all the aftermarket stuff to doll one up.

AK for the zombie apocalypse.  This is the epitome of "gun don't fail me now".

[hillbilli]

like someone said.. ideally try to get to shoot both before you buy if possible.. they are very different. AK- poor safety design (must take hand off grip to manipulate), big crude sights set close together, heavier, slower, deer legal round, slower to reload, expect 3-4" groups at 100yds, not many good optics mounting options, 2/3 the price of an AR usually..
AR- good ergonomics, easy to manipulate safety, better trigger, better sights, most are .223-light, fast bullet, good coyote round,(not deer legal in WA), easier to carry lots of ammo with you, flatter shooting at distance, almost all will shoot 1.5" at 100yds or better,  many good scope/optics options, probably better for a beginner to shoot well. Needs more cleaning/maintenance than an AK- but easy to fieldstrip and clean..

[GoPlayOutside]

So...you guys are saying, "go with the AR"....unless I plan on putting eggs, jack daniels, syrup, and bacon in the action.  But, If I do want to run breakfast thru my rifle....then I should go with an AK. 

Ok, I got it. 

[Biggerhammer]

So...you guys are saying, "go with the AR"....unless I plan on putting eggs, jack daniels, syrup, and bacon in the action.  But, If I do want to run breakfast thru my rifle....then I should go with an AK. 

Ok, I got it. 

You would be surprised what a properly set up/ gassed AR can take.

[FC]

So...you guys are saying, "go with the AR"....unless I plan on putting eggs, jack daniels, syrup, and bacon in the action.  But, If I do want to run breakfast thru my rifle....then I should go with an AK. 

Ok, I got it. 

You would be surprised what a properly set up/ gassed AR can take.

Properly setup and lubed they will run a long time, if you piss in the action of an AK once a year or so it will exhibit at least as good a performance. 

[fair-chase]

Every time I hear AK, I think of this... 

Shovel AK - CAUTION LANGUAGE

[Biggerhammer]

So...you guys are saying, "go with the AR"....unless I plan on putting eggs, jack daniels, syrup, and bacon in the action.  But, If I do want to run breakfast thru my rifle....then I should go with an AK. 

Ok, I got it. 

You would be surprised what a properly set up/ gassed AR can take.

Properly setup and lubed they will run a long time, if you piss in the action of an AK once a year or so it will exhibit at least as good a performance. 

AK's shouldn't even be remotely considered a AR's equal. They are two completely different creatures, toe to toe. Head to head a AR will walk all over a AK, if one chooses to compare them in the same pool. It cracks me up!

[carpsniperg2]

  Agree.

Comparing a AR to a AK is like comparing a horse to a donkey.

[762Armo]

AK's shouldn't even be remotely considered a AR's equal. They are two completely different creatures, toe to toe. Head to head a AR will walk all over a AK, if one chooses to compare them in the same pool. It cracks me up!

LOL.  Contradicting yourself a bit.
If they are two different creatures, then you shouldn't compare them in the same pool, or state that one is better than the other. Obviously because they each have their own better qualities.

[Biggerhammer]

AK's shouldn't even be remotely considered a AR's equal. They are two completely different creatures, toe to toe. Head to head a AR will walk all over a AK, if one chooses to compare them in the same pool. It cracks me up!

LOL.  Contradicting yourself a bit.
If they are two different creatures, then you shouldn't compare them in the same pool, or state that one is better than the other. Obviously because they each have their own better qualities.

Contradicting?

" If one chooses "

[Mongo Hunter]

If you can shoot both and see what feels best. Personally I like the AR platform better, I like things that are ergonomic. I have shot both and the AR is just faster in every way. The AK is for sure robust, reliable and simple as all get out but I don't like how they feel when reloading, shooting or even taking off safe. AR fits me best, see what fits you.

[Buzz2401]

I have both and prefer the AK. Ak is just more fun to shoot in my opinion. 

[Lincoln4]

I have had several AR15s, and currently own two.  I hope to buy an AK soon, if for no reason other than my government is afraid of me having one!   

[n2thecraft]

I had the same dilemma,, got one of each,,, problem solved!

[MountainDevil54]

That's easy, One keeps firing while the other is still jammed up 

[Simcoe hunter]

So...you guys are saying, "go with the AR"....unless I plan on putting eggs, jack daniels, syrup, and bacon in the action.  But, If I do want to run breakfast thru my rifle....then I should go with an AK. 

Ok, I got it. 

You would be surprised what a properly set up/ gassed AR can take.

And there in lies the biggest truth.  "Properly setup".  The AK takes no additional setup to be able to fire after putting your breakfast through the action!

[FC]

So...you guys are saying, "go with the AR"....unless I plan on putting eggs, jack daniels, syrup, and bacon in the action.  But, If I do want to run breakfast thru my rifle....then I should go with an AK. 

Ok, I got it. 

You would be surprised what a properly set up/ gassed AR can take.

And there in lies the biggest truth.  "Properly setup".  The AK takes no additional setup to be able to fire after putting your breakfast through the action!

Funny enough, it's also amazing how ergonomic an AK can get with a stock and pistol grip that fits you well. There are also receiver sights available for AK's. Personally I was amazed to find out how accurate my AK was with a little trigger work, a recoil spring to keep it from tapping the trunnion and some furniture. The adjustable cheek riser made a gigantic difference.

If you buy an AK and plan to shoot it a lot, get a 5.45x39 chambered rifle if you want to shoot cheap surplus. 

[MountainDevil54]

The 3 shots by the 1 are my 3 at 50 yards.

[pashok23]

I had the same dilemma,, got one of each,,, problem solved!

i like that

[pashok23]

The 3 shots by the 1 are my 3 at 50 yards.

what kind of scope is it?looks really sick on your ak

[Special T]

looks like an aimpoint

[magnanimous_j]

The AK is the carbureted pickup truck that can run for 5000 miles without oil, and the AR is a direct injected, tuned sports car.  Since each one has a galaxy of aftermarket parts, it’s hard to make a definitive judgment. But more or less, the AK is undeniably more rugged and reliable and the 7.62x39 is a arguably a better man killer. The AR is more accurate, faster and lighter. It all depends on what you want it for. If we had a collapse in society, for me in the city, a lightweight, short barreled M4 would be my preference. If I was slogging through the Everglades, I would want that rugged AK.

But the thing that’s often overlooked in online conversations about guns is the weight. The AK weighs a ton.

[FC]

But the thing that’s often overlooked in online conversations about guns is the weight. The AK weighs a ton.

I am not sure if my AK even makes it to 10lbs fully loaded. An old milled receiver/wood furniture gun is definitely a lot heavier but I wouldn't think anyone would be using a collectible like that for a shooter.

Don't get me wrong here, I am an AR fan and own both an AK and an AR. The AK is capable of plenty good accuracy if the barrel isn't ruined and the shooter has a clue. I've shot AK's with worn out original barrels and they suck, they keyhole at 25 yards etc...but so will an AR with a destroyed barrel! A good barrel on either will produce substantially better results, a trigger upgrade helps a lot too

[rainshadow1]

If you're looking to inaccurately rain down a sheet of lead under virtually any conditions, go AK.

I wouldn't even begin to consider the AK in ANY hunting scenario, however. (Except maybe spot & stalk hunting for wild hogs in TX.)

AR is still fun to shoot, but also has the accuracy and precision potential that the AK just can't even dream about.

[coachcw]

anybody that drives like the people and still can shoot the ak must make it one hell of a gun.  AK and a bucket of mud

[Jrzbullelk]

AK hands down the best 

[Heredoggydoggy]

looks like an aimpoint

  A blowup of picture #1 shows "Aimpoint" on the side of the scope.

[MountainDevil54]

yep its an aimpoint red dot. I forgot if its 2 moa or 3 moa.

The myth about the AK not being accurate is a bunch of bs.

I remember last year we had the ak out at the whittington center and a guy pulls out his new ar15 to shoot, that SOB did nothing but jam on him. I kind of chuckled and said, you should have bought an AK.

AR is just a city cowboy wanting to play a soldier, basically, to many video games.

As for weight, whats wrong? Have a long walk to your tree stand