30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?

[Redneck Russell]

30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?

[Wanttohuntmore]

If it can stabilize it and shoot accurately, it would be great on all elk.   Myself, I'd use a 165 or 180 tsx and feel fine.   

[Redneck Russell]

If it can stabilize it and shoot accurately, it would be great on all elk.   Myself, I'd use a 165 or 180 tsx and feel fine.

We have several of the new Winchester Model 70's so I'm not quite sure what the rate of twist is.

[Jburke]

Should be more than enough bullet.  When I  hunted modern for elk I shot 180 accubonds.  I've switched over to muzzleloader for elk though.

[Redneck Russell]

Off the Winchester site say 1-10" for rate of twist.

[bobcat]

With a 30/06 and a Barnes bullet, I'd go a lot lighter. You need enough velocity to open those bullets up. I would go with a 165 grain, or maybe even a 150.

A 200 grain Barnes to me is a bullet that would best be used in something like the 300 Ultra Mag.


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[Bob33]

At reasonable distances it is adequate if shot placement is good.

I would prefer a 165 grain if shooting Barnes.

[Redneck Russell]

With a 30/06 and a Barnes bullet, I'd go a lot lighter. You need enough velocity to open those bullets up. I would go with a 165 grain, or maybe even a 150.

A 200 grain Barnes to me is a bullet that would best be used in something like the 300 Ultra Mag.


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I have had bad results with Remington Ultra Mag Brass. Even factory ammo I have shot out of the rifle failed to hold a primer 50 percent of the time. I am contemplating the 300 Weatherby Magnum though which would also give that rare long distance clear cut option.

[Redneck Russell]

At reasonable distances it is adequate if shot placement is good.

I would prefer a 165 grain if shooting Barnes.

I have 1200 of the Barnes 165 TSX in surplus Garand brass loaded for Mulies. My wife and daughters were planning on using them when we go horse packing out SE.

[lokidog]

At reasonable distances it is adequate if shot placement is good.

I would prefer a 165 grain if shooting Barnes.

I have 1200 of the Barnes 165 TSX in surplus brass Garand brass loaded for Mulies. My wife and daughters were planning on using them when we go horse packing out SE.

This will work perfectly!!

[RadSav]

With a 30/06 and a Barnes bullet, I'd go a lot lighter. You need enough velocity to open those bullets up. I would go with a 165 grain, or maybe even a 150.

A 200 grain Barnes to me is a bullet that would best be used in something like the 300 Ultra Mag.

My thoughts exactly.  I'd also add I would be looking more at the TTSX if going with the Barnes design in a 30-06.

[Redneck Russell]

I just got the heads up and OK from the wife to start looking around for some used 300 Weatherby's Magnums.
I love this forum.  God knows I have bought enough stuff from other members here already. lol

[RadSav]

Nice to see some post from you after more than two years Redneck Rus'   Now you will be required to waste as much time as us hopeless H-W regulars!

[Redneck Russell]

Nice to see some post from you after more than two years Redneck Rus'   Now you will be required to waste as much time as us hopeless H-W regulars!

Thanks Rad.
The software would not let me post or maybe someone forgot to approve my membership. Someone pinged me a PM the other day and then all the bells and whistles lit up and I was able to post.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Since switching to Federal Premiums in the 165 spbt. I have shot 2 moose and 3 elk and all were one shot kills. For my Ruger M77 30.06 they are also the most accurate factory ammo I've found which I've found to be more important than the weight of the bullet. I use the same load for deer also, which takes away the need to re-sight my gun to switch to another load.

[slm9s]

180 accubonds in my -06

[arrowflinger]

With a 30/06 and a Barnes bullet, I'd go a lot lighter. You need enough velocity to open those bullets up. I would go with a 165 grain, or maybe even a 150.

A 200 grain Barnes to me is a bullet that would best be used in something like the 300 Ultra Mag.


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[HoofsandWings]

It is all about shot placement. If you hit him in the rump -- good luck.
I used 150gr 308 for my elk.
Also 150gr 270 for my moose.
No problems with either.
If you have buck/elk fever, maybe a bigger gun is what you should use.

Basically, you want some velocity and some foot-pounds when you shoot at an elk.
And you should be able to hit what you are aiming at.
 Good luck if you are shooting at an elk running at 30 mph across a canyon.
Fancy custom loads, rifles and scopes won't help if you are a poor shot.
Look at an elk archery target. It will give you a good idea as to where to aim.
Have you tried having a buddy stand behind you and yell while you are aiming at the range?
Good concentration takes practice.

[dreamunelk]

I have shot several elk with a 30-06 with barnes TSX 180 grn.   Put the bullet in the right spot and they go down.  Most never take another step. 

[ghosthunter]

165 in my 06.
Roosevelt in the boiler room. 100 ft dirt nap.
Butcher asked me what I had used. Said he had never seen a wound channel like that.
400 lbs hanging.

[snowpack]

I agree with the posts about going lighter to get the velocity up for TSX.  With a 200 grain in .30 cal, should be a rather long bullet.  If it is a round you want to run through a magazine and load to standard COAL, you would likely have a deep seated bullet.  This would eat up a bit of volume needed to get a 200gr up to a good performing velocity.

[WSU]

Any of those will be sufficient.  My wife killed a bull with a 130 grain tsx in 270.  The bull took about one step and fell over dead.

[Redneck Russell]

Thanks for all the help guys.

[Hornseeker]

Since I shoot 06' and Barnes for 15 yrs or so now I wanted to just throw my .02 in as well!

I shoot the 168 TSX and TTSX both. Both have kilt deer, elk, moose and bears... Every instance the bullets performed picture perfect!!!

If limited shots to 200 yards or less I'd feel GREAT shooting the 200 grain TSX at elk out of my 06'.

Good LUck