Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish

[RG]

Pearson is right. The WDFW has no spine and no interest in the rights of its constituents. They cave to special interests every time.  Leads one to wonder if somebody is grazing in the pockets of special interests or is in a position to owe special favors due to back room closed door political deals.  It's become absolutely predictable now.  They've sold out the steelhead fishermen and women of Washington and the economy in those places where the money was spent.  Somehow it's OK to have hatchery salmon. Hmmmm

[huntnphool]

That's just the thing! The nets should of been gone long before this. Netting will have to go before anything can move forward.

Ah, so now you admit that the WDFW/Wild Fish Conservancy agreement is useless, and the hatchery stocks are not the problem

[stevemiller]

That's just the thing! The nets should of been gone long before this. Netting will have to go before anything can move forward.

This is the smartest thing you have posted this entire thread,But they havnt,wont,Therefore hatchery is all that can be done.

[huntnphool]

That's just the thing! The nets should of been gone long before this. Netting will have to go before anything can move forward.

This is the smartest thing you have posted this entire thread,But they havnt,wont,Therefore hatchery is all that can be done.

Exactly, which makes the hatchery closure nothing more than a liberal "feel good" about doing something/anything move!

[stevemiller]

  

[Antlershed]

I wonder how many fish there would be if there were no nets....

The netters are just another group that DFW caters to...

[GEARHEAD]

a kinda different view being expressed on a certain washington fly fishing web site, they seem to think we are sore loosers.

[huntnphool]

a kinda different view being expressed on a certain washington fly fishing web site, they seem to think we are sore loosers.

They are losers as well, they just don't see it yet. In a few years, WDFW will close fishing in all Puget Sound streams, even for fly fisherman, based on low fish numbers, which is a no brainer given there will be no hatchery production.

 The "wild" fish numbers will be no better than they are now, another no brainer given the real issue is not being addressed.

 And in the end the only winners in this whole BS, liberal, geo political fiasco will be the crooked a$$ politicians and lawyers.

[Bullkllr]

a kinda different view being expressed on a certain washington fly fishing web site, they seem to think we are sore loosers.

They are losers as well, they just don't see it yet. In a few years, WDFW will close fishing in all Puget Sound streams, even for fly fisherman, based on low fish numbers, which is a no brainer given there will be no hatchery production.

 The "wild" fish numbers will be no better than they are now, another no brainer given the real issue is not being addressed.

 And in the end the only winners in this whole BS, liberal, geo political fiasco will be the crooked a$$ politicians and lawyers.

Very nice synopsis of the realities of this situation

Not saying I'm not a wild fish advocate (I am!), or that there haven't been some valid points made here regarding wild fish (Singleshot12).
But reality is, as they say, reality.

[Antlershed]

a kinda different view being expressed on a certain washington fly fishing web site, they seem to think we are sore loosers.

Would you expect anything more out of a fly fishing website?

[wafisherman]

a kinda different view being expressed on a certain washington fly fishing web site, they seem to think we are sore loosers.

Would you expect anything more out of a fly fishing website?

I'm a fly fisherman and know a lot of guys on that site.  Most of them enjoy bonking a hatchery brat as much as anyone.  Yes, there are some hard core wild fish Nazis and elitists, but you'll find those types here as well, just maybe on different topics...

[teal101]

a kinda different view being expressed on a certain washington fly fishing web site, they seem to think we are sore loosers.

Would you expect anything more out of a fly fishing website?

I'm a fly fisherman and know a lot of guys on that site.  Most of them enjoy honking a hatchery brat as much as anyone.  Yes, there are some hard core wild fish Nazis and elitists, but you'll find those types here as well, just maybe on different topics...

Yup, me included.

Theres a lot that needs to be done to return wild Steelhead, reducing/removing hatchery fish is step one.  Numerous studies support this.  Increased fish passage past dams, pollution reduction, stopping the indian netting, reducing logging in wild fish runs, eliminating dredge and suction mining in wild steelhead rivers, and attempted control of the commercial overfishing in the ocean are all pieces to the puzzle.

[Antlershed]

I'd rather have some hatchery fish to bonk than no fish at all which is where we will end up if we shut down all the hatcheries. The wild fish nazis need to come back to reality.

[teal101]

I'd rather have some hatchery fish to bonk than no fish at all which is where we will end up if we shut down all the hatcheries. The wild fish nazis need to come back to reality.

The sport fishers need to stop being so greedy.  Yes the rivers will be shut down.  Yes it may be decades before they open.  No you will not be able to bonk Steelhead for awhile.  The end result will be an increase in true wild strains repopulating the rivers for sport fishing.

You have to understand that decades of mismanagement, over consumption, and habitat degradation have got us to this point.  It is going to take decades of recovery to reverse the adverse effects.  You cannot fix this overnight.  Patience will need to be exercised by all parties involved.

You are aware of the issues with introducing non-native genetic species into river systems?  Hatchery fish (with a few exceptions) are just that.  They are non native.  Some hatcheries are using wild genetic stock from the river to repopulate which should be the only active hatchery practice used for Salmonids in my eyes.

[singleshot12]

Ah, so now you admit that the WDFW/Wild Fish Conservancy agreement is useless, and the hatchery stocks are not the problem

You are right huntnphool. The WFC people are just a bunch of Californian elitist do-gooders who really don't have a clue.

So many issues at stake with what lead up to this day. But the bottom line is it's over and I do admit that now.