Need some advise!

[quackkiller]

Ok so here is the deal, I am looking for a new scope. I will be putting it on a howa 300 win mag. I have looked and the vortex viper with the dead hold, Nikon monarch bdc, and the leupold with the mil dots I believe it was the 3. Well I need some advise from you guys that like to shoot ling distance and hunt deer that might end up being a long shot. I like the Nikon bdc because the app is cool but i am still not sure on putting a circle on a deer compared to plane crosshairs or a (mill line). I also like the fact of zero out turrets. Thanks to all in advance!!!

[The scout]

for me bdc reticles are just to generic for long range hunting, even with the app you have angle and barometric pressure to deal with. imho I would learn how to dial if you want to extend your range

[quackkiller]

That is what I generally have been wanting to do, I am really leaning towards the pst, have any knowledge on them by chance?

[700xcr]

A few more questions need to be answered before narrowing down to help give advise.
1. What do you consider long range (yardage) ?Note depending on range dial  turrets may be better then BDC reticles in scopes.
2. Price range of willing to spend on a scope? Note: it is better to spend more on optics.
3. Will you be use factory loads or be handloading your own ammo?
These answers would help give you advise  to your questions.

[quackkiller]

Ok I am thinking most likely around 700yd max if I absolute had too last minute kind of thing and I knew I can shoot percistant. I will be shooting factory until I can make my self break down and start hand loading. I will either be shooting 165gr or 180gr. Money wise tops of 700$. I do understand you need to put your money where it belongs on a quality set up.

[The scout]

good for the money, I like leupold for hunting. they are light with low profile turrets. dialing can be intimidating at first but is very easy. you don't need to break the bank to get started, I would look at the leupold 4.5-14 cds, you can find them for less than 500

[quackkiller]

Do they have the zero turret by chance do you know? I really like that... This is my first rifle, I am an archery hunter and have never hinted with a rifle. But I am going to Idaho for the first time this year and I want to kill a buck with a rifle haha

[quackkiller]

Also are you talking about the vx-3?

[The scout]

I am talking the vx-3, not sure on the turret

[quackkiller]

Ok so they do have one you just need a coupon and send them in information. Is a 40mm or 50mm better in your opinion?

[The scout]

the last one I bought was the 40 with 1'' tube really trying to keep the weight down on that particular set up, happy with it but side by side with my 50 it looses light a bit sooner, if weight is not an issue go 50

[Encore 280]

I just went through the same dilemma and ended up getting the Nikon 4-16x42 without the BDC from Cabela's for $500. The other scope I was looking at was the Huskemaw 4-16 but pretty spendy. Getting my Weatherby 300 back from Benchmark tomorrow then I'll install the Nikon then it's off to the range. It seems to have good eye relief and Nikon will make a custom turret for it after I send in the info they need. I haven't really checked into that part of it yet. I don't plan on shooting any farther than maybe 5-600yds at the most if that even. May be biting off more than I can chew but it's something I'd like to try.

[quackkiller]

Let me know how you end up liking it. I am interested in that scope as well.

[Encore 280]

Forgot to put in there that it's the Monarch 3.

[Buzz2401]

I'd go with the Leupold with CDS