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Quote from: trophyhunt on February 01, 2018, 05:24:02 PMI also wonder if the state could get real accurate harvest numbers from the yakamas if that would help aleive tention from false numbers being rumored?Based on many posts I have seen on Huntwa I know the state doesn’t have accurate harvest numbers for what non natives do or harvest.Just sayin’ not picking a fight just saying it goes both ways. Get our yard in check before complaining about the neighbors.
I also wonder if the state could get real accurate harvest numbers from the yakamas if that would help aleive tention from false numbers being rumored?
Plat, maybe I'm misunderstanding one of the posts you have made and if so please feel free to correct me. It seems that many people are aware of a certain person from your tribe who is selling elk jerky,which seems to be against tribal law. And In reading one of your posts you stated something to the effect of the tribe was probably not going to do anything about it. And you seemed to justify this lack of enforcement being just fine because of wdfw saying this herd is above carrying capacity and there seems to be no scientific proof that this individual is having a negative effect on the herd. Since when is it ok to break the law as long as no one can prove you caused any damage while doing it? Would be the same as saying we shouldn't charge all the non native elk poachers because the herd size hasn't been impacted!
Quote from: Rainier10 on February 01, 2018, 06:15:52 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on February 01, 2018, 05:24:02 PMI also wonder if the state could get real accurate harvest numbers from the yakamas if that would help aleive tention from false numbers being rumored?Based on many posts I have seen on Huntwa I know the state doesn’t have accurate harvest numbers for what non natives do or harvest.Just sayin’ not picking a fight just saying it goes both ways. Get our yard in check before complaining about the neighbors.Damn, I’m not picking a fight, I thought it was a good place to start. I will go out on a limb and say the non native harvest reports are much better than the zero reports we get from the yakama tribe? True or not, should I throw in another happy emoji to show I’m not mad?? 🙂
Quote from: trophyhunt on February 01, 2018, 06:35:15 PMQuote from: Rainier10 on February 01, 2018, 06:15:52 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on February 01, 2018, 05:24:02 PMI also wonder if the state could get real accurate harvest numbers from the yakamas if that would help aleive tention from false numbers being rumored?Based on many posts I have seen on Huntwa I know the state doesn’t have accurate harvest numbers for what non natives do or harvest.Just sayin’ not picking a fight just saying it goes both ways. Get our yard in check before complaining about the neighbors.Damn, I’m not picking a fight, I thought it was a good place to start. I will go out on a limb and say the non native harvest reports are much better than the zero reports we get from the yakama tribe? True or not, should I throw in another happy emoji to show I’m not mad?? 🙂Glad you’re not mad bro.😁I agree it would be a great place to start and we have to start somewhere.
Quote from: trophyhunt on January 31, 2018, 06:16:12 AMQuote from: Time Immemorial 1855 on January 31, 2018, 03:36:33 AMQuote from: swordtine on January 02, 2018, 10:44:22 PMQuote from: jnordwell on January 02, 2018, 09:31:53 PMSo how come no one has said this...Legally as it maybe out of glen wood and trout lake the yaks are getting 75$ for a deer and 150+$ for elk.. non tribesman are paying them for this. Growing up around some of the Indians if they make money at it they will do it. So is that legal? I asked a game warden about it.. he said he couldn’t do anything about it... so how are his hands tied?This is an interesting point...the other day I spoke with an enrolled member down here on the yakama res who told me he asked someone on the council whether he could sell the meat from elk he shoots and was told if he is selling it to feed his family it is just another way he is providing a living....which I guess in principle I do agree with but the problem I have with it is the extremely finite nature of the resource he is utilizing. Wild game can be so easily overharvested, and cannot be propagated to match harvest in the same ways domesticated livestock can...I asked the fellow how hard it would be for him to harvest say, 10 elk in a year, and he kind of just chuckled and said 10? That's easy.In all fairness I do believe this man is providing meat for several families not just his own, however, he had a medium sized cow elk in his truck bed and told me he shot a 6x7 bull as well as another bull at the same time way up oak creek somewhere the week before. And had already bagged multiple cows before these... But he only had until the 1st to take cows so he was going back up..........I say all of this not to incite jealousy or hatred, but simply to state the obvious: if there are even only one or two dozen members of every tribe "playing by the rules" which this man is, doing this and harvesting upwards of a dozen elk every year or more, how can we hope to see and enjoy a thriving population of these animals for generations to come?I can bet that no councilmen ever said that about selling game, it's against our law to do soOk, so lets talk about selling the game being against your law. let me ask you an honest question then, Do you guys enforce that law? I'll answer that for you, hell no! I'm sure you've heard of the Jerky guy, AW. How much does he make a year on selling jerky? I just saw a facebook photo with him standing in front of a full smoker full of elk meat. And him saying he was all sold out and needs to resupply. What does a guy do with 25 to over 100 bull elk a year, he sells it. How about the tribal members that killed elk and deer weekly and drove to Tacoma to sell it to a big time criminal? Please don't tell me the tribe or the elders didn't know about that one!!!!!!! Be honest here, these are perfectly honest questions, no bashing or racist remarks were said. It would be nice if claims were made about someone (Aaron), he would be allowed to defend himself.
Quote from: Time Immemorial 1855 on January 31, 2018, 03:36:33 AMQuote from: swordtine on January 02, 2018, 10:44:22 PMQuote from: jnordwell on January 02, 2018, 09:31:53 PMSo how come no one has said this...Legally as it maybe out of glen wood and trout lake the yaks are getting 75$ for a deer and 150+$ for elk.. non tribesman are paying them for this. Growing up around some of the Indians if they make money at it they will do it. So is that legal? I asked a game warden about it.. he said he couldn’t do anything about it... so how are his hands tied?This is an interesting point...the other day I spoke with an enrolled member down here on the yakama res who told me he asked someone on the council whether he could sell the meat from elk he shoots and was told if he is selling it to feed his family it is just another way he is providing a living....which I guess in principle I do agree with but the problem I have with it is the extremely finite nature of the resource he is utilizing. Wild game can be so easily overharvested, and cannot be propagated to match harvest in the same ways domesticated livestock can...I asked the fellow how hard it would be for him to harvest say, 10 elk in a year, and he kind of just chuckled and said 10? That's easy.In all fairness I do believe this man is providing meat for several families not just his own, however, he had a medium sized cow elk in his truck bed and told me he shot a 6x7 bull as well as another bull at the same time way up oak creek somewhere the week before. And had already bagged multiple cows before these... But he only had until the 1st to take cows so he was going back up..........I say all of this not to incite jealousy or hatred, but simply to state the obvious: if there are even only one or two dozen members of every tribe "playing by the rules" which this man is, doing this and harvesting upwards of a dozen elk every year or more, how can we hope to see and enjoy a thriving population of these animals for generations to come?I can bet that no councilmen ever said that about selling game, it's against our law to do soOk, so lets talk about selling the game being against your law. let me ask you an honest question then, Do you guys enforce that law? I'll answer that for you, hell no! I'm sure you've heard of the Jerky guy, AW. How much does he make a year on selling jerky? I just saw a facebook photo with him standing in front of a full smoker full of elk meat. And him saying he was all sold out and needs to resupply. What does a guy do with 25 to over 100 bull elk a year, he sells it. How about the tribal members that killed elk and deer weekly and drove to Tacoma to sell it to a big time criminal? Please don't tell me the tribe or the elders didn't know about that one!!!!!!! Be honest here, these are perfectly honest questions, no bashing or racist remarks were said.
Quote from: swordtine on January 02, 2018, 10:44:22 PMQuote from: jnordwell on January 02, 2018, 09:31:53 PMSo how come no one has said this...Legally as it maybe out of glen wood and trout lake the yaks are getting 75$ for a deer and 150+$ for elk.. non tribesman are paying them for this. Growing up around some of the Indians if they make money at it they will do it. So is that legal? I asked a game warden about it.. he said he couldn’t do anything about it... so how are his hands tied?This is an interesting point...the other day I spoke with an enrolled member down here on the yakama res who told me he asked someone on the council whether he could sell the meat from elk he shoots and was told if he is selling it to feed his family it is just another way he is providing a living....which I guess in principle I do agree with but the problem I have with it is the extremely finite nature of the resource he is utilizing. Wild game can be so easily overharvested, and cannot be propagated to match harvest in the same ways domesticated livestock can...I asked the fellow how hard it would be for him to harvest say, 10 elk in a year, and he kind of just chuckled and said 10? That's easy.In all fairness I do believe this man is providing meat for several families not just his own, however, he had a medium sized cow elk in his truck bed and told me he shot a 6x7 bull as well as another bull at the same time way up oak creek somewhere the week before. And had already bagged multiple cows before these... But he only had until the 1st to take cows so he was going back up..........I say all of this not to incite jealousy or hatred, but simply to state the obvious: if there are even only one or two dozen members of every tribe "playing by the rules" which this man is, doing this and harvesting upwards of a dozen elk every year or more, how can we hope to see and enjoy a thriving population of these animals for generations to come?I can bet that no councilmen ever said that about selling game, it's against our law to do so
Quote from: jnordwell on January 02, 2018, 09:31:53 PMSo how come no one has said this...Legally as it maybe out of glen wood and trout lake the yaks are getting 75$ for a deer and 150+$ for elk.. non tribesman are paying them for this. Growing up around some of the Indians if they make money at it they will do it. So is that legal? I asked a game warden about it.. he said he couldn’t do anything about it... so how are his hands tied?This is an interesting point...the other day I spoke with an enrolled member down here on the yakama res who told me he asked someone on the council whether he could sell the meat from elk he shoots and was told if he is selling it to feed his family it is just another way he is providing a living....which I guess in principle I do agree with but the problem I have with it is the extremely finite nature of the resource he is utilizing. Wild game can be so easily overharvested, and cannot be propagated to match harvest in the same ways domesticated livestock can...I asked the fellow how hard it would be for him to harvest say, 10 elk in a year, and he kind of just chuckled and said 10? That's easy.In all fairness I do believe this man is providing meat for several families not just his own, however, he had a medium sized cow elk in his truck bed and told me he shot a 6x7 bull as well as another bull at the same time way up oak creek somewhere the week before. And had already bagged multiple cows before these... But he only had until the 1st to take cows so he was going back up..........I say all of this not to incite jealousy or hatred, but simply to state the obvious: if there are even only one or two dozen members of every tribe "playing by the rules" which this man is, doing this and harvesting upwards of a dozen elk every year or more, how can we hope to see and enjoy a thriving population of these animals for generations to come?
So how come no one has said this...Legally as it maybe out of glen wood and trout lake the yaks are getting 75$ for a deer and 150+$ for elk.. non tribesman are paying them for this. Growing up around some of the Indians if they make money at it they will do it. So is that legal? I asked a game warden about it.. he said he couldn’t do anything about it... so how are his hands tied?
Quote from: h20hunter on February 02, 2018, 01:20:49 PMIt's a free site, he is welcome to join.Check his status......
It's a free site, he is welcome to join.
So that allows rumors (unrepresented info) to become acceptable?
https://nwifc.org/downloads/big-game-harvest-report-2015-2016/hope this works but here we go.
Quote from: chinookie23 on February 02, 2018, 02:16:42 PMhttps://nwifc.org/downloads/big-game-harvest-report-2015-2016/hope this works but here we go. this was a joke correct if not I got a piece of ocean front property in north Dakota I'll sell ya1 elk killed for region 3800 total deer state wideOh and there are only 115 wolves in Washington
Quote from: Tbar on February 02, 2018, 04:22:35 PMSo that allows rumors (unrepresented info) to become acceptable?It doesn’t disallow people to talk. All kinds of gossip goes on on forums.
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