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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2018, 12:43:23 PM »
This is as pathetic as it gets. Another benefit based on skin color? I thought we are pushing hard these days for racial equality, not segregation? Since when has the bighorn sheep ever been native to the Swakane? Also, how has the YN ever helped in manage or support these rams they now seem to be entitled to? Hopefully some WSF members chime in.
 Seems to me a lot of hard work just got pissed away........ :dunno:

If you read the comments above, it sounds like this has been around for awhile.

If they're not native, I would think the push would be to eliminate them.

Many of the tribes at this point are partners in wildlife conservation, despite past transgressions from specific tribal members.  Ex:  There is no denying what members of the Muckleshoot have done in past decades, but their current wildlife bios are doing a great job identifying problems with local deer herds and helping to craft policy for their members to help out.  Right now, the tribes are our best shot at predator management. 

Lastly, I haven't heard anyone marching to eliminate current treaties with native tribes.

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2018, 01:02:19 PM »
This is as pathetic as it gets. Another benefit based on skin color? I thought we are pushing hard these days for racial equality, not segregation? Since when has the bighorn sheep ever been native to the Swakane? Also, how has the YN ever helped in manage or support these rams they now seem to be entitled to? Hopefully some WSF members chime in.
 Seems to me a lot of hard work just got pissed away........ :dunno:



Dude.  Dial it down a bit.  Life will never be fair.  Relax and be happy that we have access to thousands of acres of public land.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2018, 01:04:52 PM »
This is as pathetic as it gets. Another benefit based on skin color? I thought we are pushing hard these days for racial equality, not segregation? Since when has the bighorn sheep ever been native to the Swakane? Also, how has the YN ever helped in manage or support these rams they now seem to be entitled to? Hopefully some WSF members chime in.
 Seems to me a lot of hard work just got pissed away........ :dunno:



Dude.  Dial it down a bit.  Life will never be fair.  Relax and be happy that we have access to thousands millions of acres of public land.

Here, I'll fix that for ya  :tup:

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2018, 01:05:42 PM »
This WILL Not turn in to a bash fest. That's the only warning that will be given.  :tup:
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2018, 01:07:14 PM »
This is as pathetic as it gets. Another benefit based on skin color? I thought we are pushing hard these days for racial equality, not segregation? Since when has the bighorn sheep ever been native to the Swakane? Also, how has the YN ever helped in manage or support these rams they now seem to be entitled to? Hopefully some WSF members chime in.
 Seems to me a lot of hard work just got pissed away........ :dunno:

If you read the comments above, it sounds like this has been around for awhile.

If they're not native, I would think the push would be to eliminate them.

Many of the tribes at this point are partners in wildlife conservation, despite past transgressions from specific tribal members.  Ex:  There is no denying what members of the Muckleshoot have done in past decades, but their current wildlife bios are doing a great job identifying problems with local deer herds and helping to craft policy for their members to help out.  Right now, the tribes are our best shot at predator management. 

Lastly, I haven't heard anyone marching to eliminate current treaties with native tribes.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2018, 01:09:54 PM »
I'm baffled we have have any members of this forum who think this is okay and we should just move along and carry on.

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2018, 01:12:02 PM »
I'm baffled we have have any members of this forum who think this is okay and we should just move along and carry on.

I'm far more concerned about the nets on the west side, the predators on the east side, and the lack of judicial respect for wildlife laws statewide than the YN taking a few sheep that they're entitled to take.

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2018, 01:15:56 PM »
I'm baffled we have have any members of this forum who think this is okay and we should just move along and carry on.

I'm far more concerned about the nets on the west side, the predators on the east side, and the lack of judicial respect for wildlife laws statewide than the YN taking a few sheep that they're entitled to take.

Do you really know what you're even talking about? Since when have they been "entitled" to Swakane sheep and who from WDFW made this decision? 

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2018, 01:16:54 PM »
I'm baffled we have have any members of this forum who think this is okay and we should just move along and carry on.

I'm far more concerned about the nets on the west side, the predators on the east side, and the lack of judicial respect for wildlife laws statewide than the YN taking a few sheep that they're entitled to take.

Do you really know what you're even talking about? Since when have they been "entitled" to Swakane sheep and who from WDFW made this decision? 

Does WDFW have a say in the decision at all?
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2018, 01:17:15 PM »
WDFW doesn't have the signing authority for treaties.

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2018, 01:21:38 PM »
Yakama sheep harvests are 0 interest because Treaties nor there interpretation are going to change.

If WSF and WDFW introduced a new species, or species location on ceded land and that species is hunted, tribes have a right to that species equal to non-tribal.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2018, 01:28:55 PM »
I'm baffled we have have any members of this forum who think this is okay and we should just move along and carry on.

I'm far more concerned about the nets on the west side, the predators on the east side, and the lack of judicial respect for wildlife laws statewide than the YN taking a few sheep that they're entitled to take.

Do you really know what you're even talking about? Since when have they been "entitled" to Swakane sheep and who from WDFW made this decision? 

Does WDFW have a say in the decision at all?
:dunno:

I would surely hope they have some say beings they have managed the sheep there since their arrival. If  this is in some treaty that you guys believe, then why are they just now introducing these sheep tags up north?

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2018, 01:31:48 PM »
I'm baffled we have have any members of this forum who think this is okay and we should just move along and carry on.

I'm far more concerned about the nets on the west side, the predators on the east side, and the lack of judicial respect for wildlife laws statewide than the YN taking a few sheep that they're entitled to take.

Do you really know what you're even talking about? Since when have they been "entitled" to Swakane sheep and who from WDFW made this decision? 

Does WDFW have a say in the decision at all?
:dunno:

I would surely hope they have some say beings they have managed the sheep there since their arrival. If  this is in some treaty that you guys believe, then why are they just now introducing these sheep tags up north?

Mine was a legit question. I have no idea if they have a say in anything the tribes do.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2018, 01:36:03 PM »
I'm baffled we have have any members of this forum who think this is okay and we should just move along and carry on.

I'm far more concerned about the nets on the west side, the predators on the east side, and the lack of judicial respect for wildlife laws statewide than the YN taking a few sheep that they're entitled to take.

Do you really know what you're even talking about? Since when have they been "entitled" to Swakane sheep and who from WDFW made this decision? 

Does WDFW have a say in the decision at all?
:dunno:

I would surely hope they have some say beings they have managed the sheep there since their arrival. If  this is in some treaty that you guys believe, then why are they just now introducing these sheep tags up north?

Mine was a legit question. I have no idea if they have a say in anything the tribes do.
@PlateauNDN  do you know?
If I went down today and killed a Swak ram,  a WDFW officer would arrest me. I think WDFW has some say on what gets killed.

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2018, 01:36:49 PM »
But you’re not a tribal member. 

 


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