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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2019, 09:05:10 AM »
In the ocean in my opinion you should keep the first two fish you catch Finn or no Finn we lose far to many silvers realeasing natives.

This is a good point. I know there was some discussions about changing the regs up in BC because of the number of wild coho getting unintentionally killed while people shifted through to keep a clipped fish. I didn’t follow the conversation so I’m not sure what happened with it.

Coho tend to beat themselves up (especially when people net them), so if it’s legal to do so I just keep the first two I catch, rather than holding out for clipped fish. Went on a Westport charter once during a selective season and remember them hauling the wild fish on board, letting the fish flop on the deck for a while, then kicking them back over the side. Some swam away and some just floundered and floated. Seemed counter productive. I caught 8 or 9 wilds before getting a keeper and I’m sure at least a couple died.

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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2019, 10:51:56 AM »
Could you guys start practicing C & GTM (give to me)?

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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2019, 03:17:33 PM »
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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2019, 03:47:35 PM »
In the ocean in my opinion you should keep the first two fish you catch Finn or no Finn we lose far to many silvers realeasing natives.

This is a good point. I know there was some discussions about changing the regs up in BC because of the number of wild coho getting unintentionally killed while people shifted through to keep a clipped fish. I didn’t follow the conversation so I’m not sure what happened with it.

Coho tend to beat themselves up (especially when people net them), so if it’s legal to do so I just keep the first two I catch, rather than holding out for clipped fish. Went on a Westport charter once during a selective season and remember them hauling the wild fish on board, letting the fish flop on the deck for a while, then kicking them back over the side. Some swam away and some just floundered and floated. Seemed counter productive. I caught 8 or 9 wilds before getting a keeper and I’m sure at least a couple died.

I won't fish on a charter because of their horrible fish handling.  It's nothing more than pure greed to get those fish in the boat so the customer can leave with a fish.  There is zero thought about any kind of care for the resource.

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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2019, 05:22:36 PM »
In the ocean in my opinion you should keep the first two fish you catch Finn or no Finn we lose far to many silvers realeasing natives.

This is a good point. I know there was some discussions about changing the regs up in BC because of the number of wild coho getting unintentionally killed while people shifted through to keep a clipped fish. I didn’t follow the conversation so I’m not sure what happened with it.

Coho tend to beat themselves up (especially when people net them), so if it’s legal to do so I just keep the first two I catch, rather than holding out for clipped fish. Went on a Westport charter once during a selective season and remember them hauling the wild fish on board, letting the fish flop on the deck for a while, then kicking them back over the side. Some swam away and some just floundered and floated. Seemed counter productive. I caught 8 or 9 wilds before getting a keeper and I’m sure at least a couple died.

I won't fish on a charter because of their horrible fish handling.  It's nothing more than pure greed to get those fish in the boat so the customer can leave with a fish.  There is zero thought about any kind of care for the resource.

That's not necessarily true. Are there bad ones? Yes, just like every other group of anglers. Their livelihoods depend on having fish to catch, so it would behoove them to treat fish well. This is coming from a guy who guided for over 10 years.
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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2019, 05:51:07 PM »
In the ocean in my opinion you should keep the first two fish you catch Finn or no Finn we lose far to many silvers realeasing natives.

This is a good point. I know there was some discussions about changing the regs up in BC because of the number of wild coho getting unintentionally killed while people shifted through to keep a clipped fish. I didn’t follow the conversation so I’m not sure what happened with it.

Coho tend to beat themselves up (especially when people net them), so if it’s legal to do so I just keep the first two I catch, rather than holding out for clipped fish. Went on a Westport charter once during a selective season and remember them hauling the wild fish on board, letting the fish flop on the deck for a while, then kicking them back over the side. Some swam away and some just floundered and floated. Seemed counter productive. I caught 8 or 9 wilds before getting a keeper and I’m sure at least a couple died.

Not to mention the ones that get eaten by seals when you release them.  I probably saw 1/4 - 1/3 of my fish released eaten by seals this year and those are only the ones I saw getting munched by surfaced seals.

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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2019, 06:25:19 PM »
Yeah with charters time is money.  When the bite is hot nothing else matters.  They run a skeleton crew to try to increase profits.

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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2019, 09:23:42 PM »
In the ocean in my opinion you should keep the first two fish you catch Finn or no Finn we lose far to many silvers realeasing natives.

This is a good point. I know there was some discussions about changing the regs up in BC because of the number of wild coho getting unintentionally killed while people shifted through to keep a clipped fish. I didn’t follow the conversation so I’m not sure what happened with it.

Coho tend to beat themselves up (especially when people net them), so if it’s legal to do so I just keep the first two I catch, rather than holding out for clipped fish. Went on a Westport charter once during a selective season and remember them hauling the wild fish on board, letting the fish flop on the deck for a while, then kicking them back over the side. Some swam away and some just floundered and floated. Seemed counter productive. I caught 8 or 9 wilds before getting a keeper and I’m sure at least a couple died.

I won't fish on a charter because of their horrible fish handling.  It's nothing more than pure greed to get those fish in the boat so the customer can leave with a fish.  There is zero thought about any kind of care for the resource.
This is a great point how mismanaged our fisheries are.  Salt fisheries are barely hanging on at this point and may face a total closure in the future.  Yet, we have charters, boat limits, you can catch and release endangered species with bait all day long!  Gas motors trolllng with downriggers and sonar to find the fish with very little enforcement.
Meanwhile, at the local put and take lake with no outlet and nothing but degenerate stocker trout, the game Warden is watching.  He going to spend hours there watching some kid who put scent on his bass lure to make sure he doesn’t release more than than 5  mushy stockers and bust him for doing so.   :bash:
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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2019, 10:12:05 PM »
Rivers and salt is where they should spend their time.  If you are concerned with salmon and steelhead that is where I would look.  That being said I do not think over fishing on the fisherman level has much of an impact.  Could be wrong but I spend a lot of time fishing and can only think of a couple of times I was suspicious of someone taking a fish or two too many.  Catch and release also has a small impact but my money for the greatest impact is seals, sea lions, and netting.  my own  :twocents:

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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2019, 10:26:41 PM »
every salmon charter I have been on out of westport has had a complete disregard  for salmon if its not a keeper Id be surprised if any of the released fish survived

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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2019, 10:29:22 PM »
Ive never done the charter thing but in reality i can see where they have a much higher mortality rate than average guy in a boat.  having to net every fish to get the hooks out, primarily only mooching, that definitely is not good.

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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2019, 10:53:44 PM »
 I seldom keep steelhead but love fishing for them.

Sturgeon are fun to catch too, 20-30 fish days are never boring.
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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2019, 06:30:11 AM »
I pretty much catch and release everything, not because I don’t enjoy eating them...

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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2019, 07:17:56 AM »
I fish a lot every summer in the ocean and I live in Westport most of my friends fish. Even if you try to be careful releasing a fish there is going to some that float off and that's just sad. It's not the Kings there a lot tougher and very few die from a release. But the silvers are different they don't,t do as well on a release and many don,t make it and that's why I think Finn or no Finn it would save many fish if you were able to keep the first two you catch. It's sad to watch a nice fish just float off.

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Re: Catch & Release Species?
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2019, 08:51:41 AM »
I fish a lot every summer in the ocean and I live in Westport most of my friends fish. Even if you try to be careful releasing a fish there is going to some that float off and that's just sad. It's not the Kings there a lot tougher and very few die from a release. But the silvers are different they don't,t do as well on a release and many don,t make it and that's why I think Finn or no Finn it would save many fish if you were able to keep the first two you catch. It's sad to watch a nice fish just float off.

I have never even netted a Coho until I knew it had no fin, when required. I used to lose a fair number of fish as they spun in circles (including hatchery) while I held the leader looking for a fin, but I think they had a lot better chance at surviving without netting them. 

 


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