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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2019, 08:12:45 PM »
Lots of great comments and info.

One thing to add is make sure you store and wash your bag properly. Store bags hung up in a closet, usually inside out. Keeping bags in their stuff sack and even their storage bag compresses the insulation and ruins the loft stealing your insulation rating.
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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2019, 08:20:23 PM »
How do you fit in your bag.  You need some....not to much....but some dead space that allows for loft and air to heat up.  If the bag is to tight and you are flatten down the loft you loose a ton of R value.  If it is too big your body heat cannot heat the dead space.  Air is a wonderful insulator inside these bags.  I slept with a quilt and Xped down mat in the Idaho back country and was hot.....like had to stick my legs out at times to cool off. 


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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2019, 08:20:40 PM »
Lots of great comments and info.

One thing to add is make sure you store and wash your bag properly. Store bags hung up in a closet, usually inside out. Keeping bags in their stuff sack and even their storage bag compresses the insulation and ruins the loft stealing your insulation rating.

I air my bags out for a couple days, roll it up or stuff it depending, and don't think about it until a couple weeks before the next hunting season. Then I try to remember how funky I got last year, and do I need to wash it?



Nah, were good to go............. :chuckle:
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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2019, 08:24:59 PM »
+3 on ratings. When I researched ratings they are for survival, not comfort. I bought -30 bags and the problem was solved down to 0 degrees.

When we hunt I temps colder than 0 we rent a house or stay in a motel.

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2019, 08:31:46 PM »
How do you fit in your bag.  You need some....not to much....but some dead space that allows for loft and air to heat up.  If the bag is to tight and you are flatten down the loft you loose a ton of R value.  If it is too big your body heat cannot heat the dead space.  Air is a wonderful insulator inside these bags.  I slept with a quilt and Xped down mat in the Idaho back country and was hot.....like had to stick my legs out at times to cool off. 



I have to have that dead space, my feet constantly move. I can't do mummy bags, never could stand the straight jacket feel of them. I like extra wide bags that I can put my clothes in for the next day so they are nice and warm when I need to put them on. If 30 degrees or above, I am usually sleeping in just my boxers because I sleep so hot. When it gets In the twenties I put some long underwear or fleece pajamas and a beeny or do-rag on. If it gets real cold I will put on a hoodie.
Besides between my constant flip flopping from side to side I would strangle myself with a mummy bag.
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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2019, 08:41:23 PM »
How do you fit in your bag.  You need some....not to much....but some dead space that allows for loft and air to heat up.  If the bag is to tight and you are flatten down the loft you loose a ton of R value.  If it is too big your body heat cannot heat the dead space.  Air is a wonderful insulator inside these bags.  I slept with a quilt and Xped down mat in the Idaho back country and was hot.....like had to stick my legs out at times to cool off. 



I have to have that dead space, my feet constantly move. I can't do mummy bags, never could stand the straight jacket feel of them. I like extra wide bags that I can put my clothes in for the next day so they are nice and warm when I need to put them on. If 30 degrees or above, I am usually sleeping in just my boxers because I sleep so hot. When it gets In the twenties I put some long underwear or fleece pajamas and a beeny or do-rag on. If it gets real cold I will put on a hoodie.
Besides between my constant flip flopping from side to side I would strangle myself with a mummy bag.

For all the reasons you speak to.....I bought a quilt!!   :chuckle: :chuckle:  In really cold temps I wear my......don't laugh.....hoodlum on my head.  Man it will flat cook your noggin.   :chuckle: :chuckle: :tup:

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2019, 08:41:57 PM »
I have a military poncho liner I wrap up in when it's below freezing, also try sleeping with out thermal underwear, most bags need your body heat to function properly.

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2019, 09:02:36 PM »
Add a fleece fart sack.......

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2019, 09:08:24 PM »
I have a Kuiu 0 deg mummy bag. A thermo rest r 5.7 pad.  At 10 deg I had heavy Sitka thermals , hat, gloves, smartwool socks.  And. I was still not comfortable.  Going to wash my bag and see if that helps. I was out 4 days and things were covered in a layer of ice on the outside but I should have been able to get comfortable....   Any ideas ...  thinking of putting a thin closed chill pad under my thermo rest.   I dunno.
You'll feel the same in a FF or WM 0 bag as well.  Just something a guy has to get accustomed to.  :twocents:

Also, it's not a pad issue either with your 5.7 Thermorest.

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2019, 09:12:57 PM »
The easiest and most effective thing for staying warm is to tweak your own body chemistry. Eat as much red meat as possible, you know the meat sweats? That is because it’s incredibly energy dense and your body creates heat when it has an excessive amount of readily burned fuel. Most common backpacking food is the exact opposite of steak, sure it’s light weight but it’s nutritional value is also ultra light. Supplement Iodine and stop drinking fluoridated water. Being healthy keeps you warm, not to say gear isn’t important but start with your body first.

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and I always get cold when I loose 5 lbs,  which I always loose 5 lbs on a big hunt  :chuckle:

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2019, 09:16:57 PM »
What shelter were you sleeping in? Tarp? In a tent I think you would have been plenty warm

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2019, 09:41:10 PM »
A hooch mate to keep you warm. :dunno:
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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2019, 10:03:06 PM »
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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2019, 10:15:51 PM »
Another thing to consider is everyone is different. Some sleep hot, others sleep cold.  I've used 20° bags down under zero on many occasions but I sleep pretty hot and on cold cold nights I'll add puffy's if need be.  On Kodiak this February we had lows into the teens and we were also having to wear our soaking wet clothes to bed to dry them.  That's a new level of suck but those 20° kifaru slick bags are magical.  Still prefer a quilt but for a bomb proof mummy they are king in my book. 

Your best bet if fit allows is just add some layers. Puffy jacket and pants if you are packing them. Good stocking cap and down booty's ard clutch.
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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2019, 10:18:25 PM »
I have a Klymit 0 deg bag and was very comfortable to 20 deg in it this past trip. I had just a tshirt and thin merino bottoms on and was very warm. I woke up one night sweating  :chuckle:

 


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