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best caliber for hunting elk, bear, and deer(300+ yds)

7mm
34 (25%)
300 win mag
58 (42.6%)
338 win mag
8 (5.9%)
30-06
11 (8.1%)
300 weatherby mag
12 (8.8%)
28 nosler
13 (9.6%)

Total Members Voted: 136

Voting closed: April 08, 2020, 11:28:54 AM

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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2020, 07:12:26 PM »
That’s impressive at 856 that 300 wm 180’s could perform that well.  Energy  must of been around 1200 ft lbs?
i believe it. My 243 with 115’s has 1000 ft/lbs at 700
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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2020, 07:47:51 PM »
will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?
Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
can I ask why you quit the noslers?
They didn’t expand worth a damn. I shot a deer a couple of weekends before that and it was like a pin hole in and out. I switched to Accubonds after Elk. It hindsight it worked out great on the Elk, He tipped over in five yards. But I’ve been happy with Accubonds.

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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2020, 07:51:38 PM »
That’s impressive at 856 that 300 wm 180’s could perform that well.  Energy  must of been around 1200 ft lbs?
i believe it. My 243 with 115’s has 1000 ft/lbs at 700
My hunting buddy didn’t believe me either. Then the next morning we hiked up to my Elk where I left him. It’s the only animal I’ve shot past 650yds. It worked out but I shouldn’t have taken the shot.

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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2020, 07:02:04 PM »
will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?
Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
can I ask why you quit the noslers?
They didn’t expand worth a damn. I shot a deer a couple of weekends before that and it was like a pin hole in and out. I switched to Accubonds after Elk. It hindsight it worked out great on the Elk, He tipped over in five yards. But I’ve been happy with Accubonds.
i shoot accubonds as well
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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2020, 10:00:54 PM »
will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?
Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
can I ask why you quit the noslers?
They didn’t expand worth a damn. I shot a deer a couple of weekends before that and it was like a pin hole in and out. I switched to Accubonds after Elk. It hindsight it worked out great on the Elk, He tipped over in five yards. But I’ve been happy with Accubonds.
Interesting as the ballistic Silvertip is more frangible than the accubond. Penetration and stopping just under tbe hide, and only going 5 yards sounds like pretty good bullet performance👍
« Last Edit: March 13, 2020, 07:10:22 AM by mountainman »
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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2020, 10:22:21 PM »
When it comes to long range it's all about the wind. Nothing on that list will out windage the 28 Nosler. The heavy .284 bullets like the 195gr berger are unmatched.
:yeah:  and they aren't the barrel burners people claim unless you are screaming lighter bullets are higher speeds, which is pointless

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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2020, 10:23:00 PM »
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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2020, 08:43:16 AM »
No offense to the OP, but this thread reminds me of some of the people I've seen while out hunting who shoot at game way beyond their abilities. And keep shooting, again, and again, and again, and again...
:yeah:


when they use "long range" and 300yds in one sentence.. i too question in general ....answers are all good to the thread and appear to come from some "long range" experiences....
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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2020, 10:04:59 AM »
My  next will be 7mm 08.

Lots of 300 wins for sale. Lots of guys buy them but can’t tolerate the punishment at the range for long.
Get the gun you can shoot into your 80s.

I bought one for deer hunting but wouldn't think twice about shooting an elk at 300 yards with it.
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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2020, 10:21:29 AM »
will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?
Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
can I ask why you quit the noslers?
They didn’t expand worth a damn. I shot a deer a couple of weekends before that and it was like a pin hole in and out. I switched to Accubonds after Elk. It hindsight it worked out great on the Elk, He tipped over in five yards. But I’ve been happy with Accubonds.

Well a quick run through the Berger ballistic calc has you about 200 FPS below Nosler’s minimum recommend velocity (which are usually a little on the high side anyways) for that bullet at that range so not sure how much expansion you were expecting..
« Last Edit: March 13, 2020, 02:06:31 PM by Mtnwalker »

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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2020, 01:26:23 PM »
will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?
Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
can I ask why you quit the noslers?
They didn’t expand worth a damn. I shot a deer a couple of weekends before that and it was like a pin hole in and out. I switched to Accubonds after Elk. It hindsight it worked out great on the Elk, He tipped over in five yards. But I’ve been happy with Accubonds.

Well a quick run through the Berger calc has you about 200 FPS under Nosler’s minimum recommend velocity (which are usually a little on the high side anyways) for that bullet at that range so not sure how much expansion you were expecting..


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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2020, 03:08:36 PM »
I felt a little nauseous as I voted for it, but I'd go 300 Win Mag out of those options. :chuckle:

All of the comparable rounds (PRC, Nosler, WSM, Dakota etc.) would do just as well. Nothing against the 300 Weatherby, the Win Mag just gives you more options for guns, brass, load data and factory ammo.
I'd go with the .300 Win Mag as well. The 300 PRC has a bit of a leg up on the 300 Win Mag in that it's better suited for really long, high BC bullets. However, the .300 Win Mag is perfect for the vast majority of hunters and you can't beat it as far as ammo and rifle availability go.
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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2020, 03:00:56 PM »
My  next will be 7mm 08.

Lots of 300 wins for sale. Lots of guys buy them but can’t tolerate the punishment at the range for long.
Get the gun you can shoot into your 80s.

Seems like every range has some guy with a braked 300 and barely holding on. I also never see those guys shoot from a standing position.

There has definitely been a trend towards mid size calibers and I think ammo improvements have a lot to do with it. They are also just a lot more fun to shoot. I can crack off repeated rounds standing with my 7-08 while the 300 win mag guy is mentally preparing for the next shot.

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Re: Best long range caliber for all hunting (over 300 yds)
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2020, 10:36:48 PM »
My vote is 6.5x284. 140gr bullets and mild recoil. Fun to shoot easy to reload.  Load em long.

 


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