SB5390 raise discover pass fee

[tritt007]

This bill just introduced would raise the discover pass fee from the current $30 to $45


https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=5390&Year=2025&Initiative=false&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1_bibby7PoQQBkv57kAGZ_9WU48lrgJJqBCe496Z_Cz2FwBvV99g7OsxU_aem_H9dAaNGabRAr9NVNCA99Kg

[storyteller]

What a surprise!   I guess everyone contributing  when buying your vehicle license tabs is not enough,  LOL.   Never have, never will.   They figured out another way.

[MADMAX]

Great deal 👍
Nothing I like better than trash dumps and shot up everything
Thank you turds and slob shooters

[HillHound]

Well, we have to get the money somewhere since we’re gonna let all the marketable timber on state land rot or burn. I imagine this will continue to go up over the next few years as our opportunities for hunters go down. I still cannot believe that up theGrove is our land manager. Freaking ridiculous!

[duckmen1]

State donates 58 million of dnr lands and then raises cost of discover pass after once again restricting further access. Hmmmmm

[timberfaller]

The Clown Show going on in Olympia, just show's NO D has financial understanding!!  They are failures in MATH too!!  Plus they refuse to accept the Constitution of the State or Nation!!

[trophyhunt]

Well, we have to get the money somewhere since we’re gonna let all the marketable timber on state land rot or burn. I imagine this will continue to go up over the next few years as our opportunities for hunters go down. I still cannot believe that up theGrove is our land manager. Freaking ridiculous!

votes matter, and people are idiots.  This upthegrove will be very bad!!

[Mtnwalker]

Sweet, saving myself another 50% by not buying it 

[snit]

 
Never have...f-em'!

[Cougartail]

When you waste your money you run out and pay the consequences. When the State wastes it's  money it raises taxes as not to pay the consequences.

Taxpayers are always on the hook for the actions of government dimwits.

[bearpaw]

Shut down logging and the revenue from that, increase discover pass (a tax on the people), you can certainly tell a Democrat is running state lands! 

[CoryTDF]

With the state looking at a 10–12-billion-dollar shortfall they are looking to make money anyway they can. It won't be from making reasonable decisions, that is just silly, so it must be on the backs of the working class.

As a state employee this has been a topic of great concern lately. One of the things that I found interesting is that our past idiot governor made the great decision to force all state agencies to buy from "local, DEI, women owned, veteran owned, ext..." business. Sure, on the surface it sounds good, but it effectively raised to cost of nearly everything I know of by at least two-fold. It's been a nightmare for ordering.

   

[Ridgeratt]

They want to move the goalposts on passing bonds and levies as well

[timberfaller]

Cause business's to close their doors, YEP working on closing the shortfall!!

Vote bill in/on that cost MILLIONS of DOLLARS to implement, YEP working on closing the shortfall

Handing out more FREEBIES to illegals, YEP working on closing the shortfall

The Clown Show is happening!!

[Broomd]

What a hellhole run by lunatics as usual.
Damn shame, because it's inherently a beautiful state! 

Would never live there.

[bearhunter99]

WA State is fast becoming the leader in mismanagement of taxpayer dollars. 

[GWP]

They want to move the goalposts on passing bonds and levies as well

This would be funny if it was not true. I was pretty surprised by this last election seeing what a mess the State is in.
BUT, the majority of the State's population lives in the Seattle concrete jungle.
I have lived here for most of my life and it is quite sad to see the changes from the late 60's up until now.

[Ridgeratt]

Just saw today that they are a billion dollars short.
The liberal people on the west side are going to tax me into prosperity even if I have to live in a cardboard box.

[85yota]

I was a 50/50 split on being a fan of discover passes. I thought it was stupid at first, but than figured hell for 35 a year it's a good cause for public access. At a reiter pit event we were talking with dnr and I said well, at least this is helping open more offroad trails, hiking trails, public access opportunities etc. One of the higher ups said, the percentage of this money that goes to offroad areas etc is so minsecule its basically irrelevant. He said it mainly goes to highly trafficked city areas. Blew my mind, he was pissed we were pissed etc. Unfortunately it's dam near required for orv areas. I havnt looked up where the actual funds go but that would be interesting

[Smokeploe]

One thing I suggest is to cut ALL DEMOCRATS PAY BY 2/3 to help pay down the short fall?  The cut the governors pay by 3/4 also!  Then stop the salmon culvert project this alone will save the state over $30 million dollars!  If the Indians want this to be completed then they can pay for it to be done, the salmon went through those 24” culverts for decades.  The Indians can get crews together to clean pit the area on both sides of those culverts!

Smokeploe

[MADMAX]

I hope everyone takes the time
5 minutes to document your approval or opposition


https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=5390&Year=2025&Initiative=false

Make your voices heard

[BUTTER]

I don't know about you guys but I'm pretty tired of being targeted. Increase on ammo, increase on outdoor access for state lands they don't manage and or protect and where does this money go where is this short fall coming from im serious please explain

[MADMAX]

I don't know about you guys but I'm pretty tired of being targeted. Increase on ammo, increase on outdoor access for state lands they don't manage and or protect and where does this money go where is this short fall coming from im serious please explain

Guns are scary for them

https://gunresponsibility.org/

https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2024/12/13/making-sense-of-washingtons-multi-billion-dollar-budget-hole/

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Before I would raise the fee, I'd require the pass for anyone driving on the beaches. Let everyone feel the pain, not just hunters and fishermen.

[MADMAX]

Before I would raise the fee, I'd require the pass for anyone driving on the beaches. Let everyone feel the pain, not just hunters and fishermen.

My daughter got a ticket at point no point for no disco pass and she was just walking the beach

They do check

[bigtex]

Before I would raise the fee, I'd require the pass for anyone driving on the beaches. Let everyone feel the pain, not just hunters and fishermen.

My daughter got a ticket at point no point for no disco pass and she was just walking the beach

They do check

I think Sitka is referring to the coast, not just any beach. The coast (Beach) is officially known as the Seashore Conservation Area and is the only state land where a Discover Pass is not needed.

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[HUNTIN4SIX]

I think back of when this stupid pass started, as a state worker and sitting in meetings being told our jobs depended on it.  They sure sold it to the employees in a hurry, can't imagine how the brain washing is going on now.  Most all employees are scared into supporting this crap.  Not to many months ago i was hearing the state had a surplus and was doing good.  I would never support this after being involved in the financial mismanagement of this state, and seeing the poor decisions behind the scenes.  Just like I would never support a tax increase for our public schools in my area, due to the very poor financial decisions I personally know about.   

[MADMAX]

Before I would raise the fee, I'd require the pass for anyone driving on the beaches. Let everyone feel the pain, not just hunters and fishermen.

My daughter got a ticket at point no point for no disco pass and she was just walking the beach

They do check

I think Sitka is referring to the coast, not just any beach. The coast (Beach) is officially known as the Seashore Conservation Area and is the only state land where a Discover Pass is not needed.

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Ha
I had no idea
My wife always has hers when she goes so never knew it wasnt needed
thanks

[Elkaholic daWg]

I don't know about you guys but I'm pretty tired of being targeted. Increase on ammo, increase on outdoor access for state lands they don't manage and or protect and where does this money go where is this short fall coming from im serious please explain

Guns are scary for them

https://gunresponsibility.org/


DONE on all counts!

https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2024/12/13/making-sense-of-washingtons-multi-billion-dollar-budget-hole/

[jstone]

I have never bought one. I won’t. Pay lots for all my hunting licenses. If I ever get a ticket I am still ahead

[Chris57]

You can check out a Discover pass from Sno Isle library for two weeks for free and if there isn't a hold they auto renew. My wife works for the library so it's real easy for me.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Before I would raise the fee, I'd require the pass for anyone driving on the beaches. Let everyone feel the pain, not just hunters and fishermen.

My daughter got a ticket at point no point for no disco pass and she was just walking the beach

They do check

I think Sitka is referring to the coast, not just any beach. The coast (Beach) is officially known as the Seashore Conservation Area and is the only state land where a Discover Pass is not needed.

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Exactly

[Oldguy]

Thanks for the site to resond to the proposed bill. I add my self to those who will not pay for an inflated priced pass !

[timberfaller]

Was just informed the other day from our jeep club and PNW4WDA to contact our "Reps".  Vote no or vote to defer.  IF this gets passed, expect to lose access to a lot of areas, not only 4x4's but all groups who enjoy public lands.

I can't seem to copy and paste the DNR's page that explain what will happen, mainly the re-allocating of funds is what's going to happen.  Then user groups will lose their portion of funding. The DNR would actually want it deferred so they can get the user groups input, which hasn't really taken place.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=5390&Year=2025&Initiative=false

[Oldguy]

Sent my reps my feedback. If the bill passes I'll not buy another Discover Pass.

[duckmen1]

They raise the fees so high for regulated users. And charge so minimal in fines for not buying. So a user goes 3 trips to DNR before getting caught. He just saved money.

Sounds like our recent affairs. Cost more to poach eggs than a deer!!

[duckmen1]

Becoming very true these days.

[bigtex]

Was just informed the other day from our jeep club and PNW4WDA to contact our "Reps".  Vote no or vote to defer.  IF this gets passed, expect to lose access to a lot of areas, not only 4x4's but all groups who enjoy public lands.

I can't seem to copy and paste the DNR's page that explain what will happen, mainly the re-allocating of funds is what's going to happen.  Then user groups will lose their portion of funding. The DNR would actually want it deferred so they can get the user groups input, which hasn't really taken place.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=5390&Year=2025&Initiative=false

Please explain how increasing the price of the DP will cause loss of access.

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[HUNTIN4SIX]

Just more money for them to mismanage.  Wdfw is celebrating cause they get a cut.

[bigtex]

Just more money for them to mismanage.  Wdfw is celebrating cause they get a cut.

They've always gotten a portion of it.

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[timberfaller]

"DNR users will pay 50% more and experience reductions to services"  quote from DNR's web page on bill 5390.   Take it for what its worth.


From a email sent to me:

The Discover Pass was implemented 15 years ago to help fund Washington State Parks, the Department of Natural Resources (DNR), and Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW).  The current status is that funds are allocated as 84% to State Parks, 8% to DNR and 8% to WDFW up to $71M each biennium, and any money beyond that initial $71M is to be allocated as 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 to each of the three agencies.  Over the past 15 years, the price of the Discover Pass has not been increased despite accumulated inflation of 46%, and the shortfalls have been made-up by allocations from the General Fund.

However, we now have a new state administration under which these reallocations from the General Fund are no longer being made, thus the proposed 50% increase in Discover Pass pricing from the current $30 to $45 as proposed in ESSB 5390.  This was presented in the WA State Senate, which amended ESSB 5390 to also increase the $71M threshold to $100M for the transition to the 1/3-1/3-1/3 allocation.  This may affect the funding for DNR and WDFW. 

DNR is proposing that the change in allocation of funding for these agencies might be better addressed after engaging input from the stakeholders, including State Parks, DNR, WDFW, and recreation users such as hikers, mountain bikers, 4x4, ATV, motorcycle, snowmobile and equestrian communities.  They propose consideration to defer action on this legislation until the next legislative session to incorporate this input.

[HUNTIN4SIX]

Just more money for them to mismanage.  Wdfw is celebrating cause they get a cut.

They've always gotten a portion of it.

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I know I spent 25 years with the outfit.  I was there when it was originally enacted. It definitely pulled a few agencies out of a pickle.
I also participated in the mismanagement part.  Spend it or lose it.  Lotsa stories I could tell.

[pat2bear]

Just a psa on the status of this bill. It cleared the senate in April and will be signed by JayBob tomorrow. I pray their revenue goes down because people just refuse to buy it now.

[hunter399]

Bought one the other day, mostly cause you have to for Access.
The two vehicle limit pisses me off the most.

[Moose Master]

Did they raise State Park fees?  That should be a question to our legislatures