twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!

[Lowedog]

For every wolf poached it also prolongs delisting. 

The article in NWSPM revealed a lot of info I had yet to read about the case. 

[Machias]

You mean prolong it like in ID, MT and WY?  They arrived at their "numbers" in 2002, the delay has nothing to do with poaching.  Not trying to be a smart ass.

[trophyhunt]

For every wolf poached it also prolongs delisting. 

The article in NWSPM revealed a lot of info I had yet to read about the case.

I'm sorry for repeating myself but, if we have to wait to kill wolves just because they delist them- then it will be too late for the deer and the elk.  A dead wolf that no one knows about is a good thing, I would love it if they never get delisted in Wa. Which would mean they never reach the numbers that it would take to delist them!!

[pianoman9701]

For every wolf poached it also prolongs delisting. 

The article in NWSPM revealed a lot of info I had yet to read about the case.

I'm sorry for repeating myself but, if we have to wait to kill wolves just because they delist them- then it will be too late for the deer and the elk.  A dead wolf that no one knows about is a good thing, I would love it if they never get delisted in Wa. Which would mean they never reach the numbers that it would take to delist them!!

Why are these comments being posted in a forum that's open to public viewing? You guys are going to bring heat down on all of the hunters of this state because you can't keep your comments about illegal activities and poaching to yourself. This is really stupid.

[jackelope]

For every wolf poached it also prolongs delisting. 

The article in NWSPM revealed a lot of info I had yet to read about the case.

I'm sorry for repeating myself but, if we have to wait to kill wolves just because they delist them- then it will be too late for the deer and the elk.  A dead wolf that no one knows about is a good thing, I would love it if they never get delisted in Wa. Which would mean they never reach the numbers that it would take to delist them!!

They you're ok with poaching?
Is that what you're saying? Because that's what you're implying.

[h20hunter]

Poaching will never serve a valid and noble purpose. If you have a starving child and nothing left to pawn or sell to buy a cup of noodles I'm okay with it. Other than that there is no valid reason to poach an animal be it a wolf, deer, monkey, or snipe.

[Machias]

At least when we are all no longer able to deer, elk or moose hunt we'll be satisfied in the fact we stuck to the high road.

[jackelope]

At least when we are all no longer able to deer, elk or moose hunt we'll be satisfied in the fact we stuck to the high road.

Sorry and call me crazy if you want but I will never put myself or my family in jeopardy when it comes to killing wolves. I am truly surprised that some of you guys would risk prison time and the damage it could do to your family over killing a wolf. You can't do much good for your wife and kids when you're sitting in a prison cell.
Not sure if it's that or the internet tough guy thing.

[agchawk]

At least when we are all no longer able to deer, elk or moose hunt we'll be satisfied in the fact we stuck to the high road.

Sorry and call me crazy if you want but I will never put myself or my family in jeopardy when it comes to killing wolves. I am truly surprised that some of you guys would risk prison time and the damage it could do to your family over killing a wolf. You can't do much good for your wife and kids when you're sitting in a prison cell.
Not sure if it's that or the internet tough guy thing.

Agree 100%. There is absolutely no way I'd illegally take a wolf. 1) Poaching is poaching in my opinion, no matter the species or your personal thoughts on same 2) Spending a good amount of time in prison, financial penalties, and a felony conviction on my record (And subsiquent loss of employment) all sounds like things I'd rather not experience.

In my opinion you either condone poaching or you do not. And, posting the fact that you think it's OK on a public forum isn't very wise either.

[Ridgeratt]

At least when we are all no longer able to deer, elk or moose hunt we'll be satisfied in the fact we stuck to the high road.

This is a interesting quote considering your backround!! 

[Wenatcheejay]

For every wolf poached it also prolongs delisting. 

The article in NWSPM revealed a lot of info I had yet to read about the case.

I'm sorry for repeating myself but, if we have to wait to kill wolves just because they delist them- then it will be too late for the deer and the elk.  A dead wolf that no one knows about is a good thing, I would love it if they never get delisted in Wa. Which would mean they never reach the numbers that it would take to delist them!!

Why are these comments being posted in a forum that's open to public viewing? You guys are going to bring heat down on all of the hunters of this state because you can't keep your comments about illegal activities and poaching to yourself. This is really stupid.

Because it is an honest opinion. And to the post that said, "I would not want to be in his shoes." +1 to that. Me either.

I agree that illegal action should be kept to an individual. Don't forget LE does monitor the site. But to answer the question of trying to just be a vigilante and think that the wolves will be kept suppressed think about this guy, he is giving up his freedom, his father's freedom, his wife's freedom, by this I mean potentially tens of thousands of dollars and real jail time. 9 felonies. With his wife on video trying to mail a pelt from the US to Canada it might be hard to refute that kind of evidence. So real jail time is likely. And what did it accomplish? Maybe, it broke up one pack. For those few how many more are there now? We are not going to take away the very real possibility of jail time through vigilantism. It also gives more credibility to needing more LE enforcement. It gives cannon fodder to the pro wolf organizations to continue to raise more funds. I don't advocate vigilantism at this junction. I advocate getting as many people to write, phone, type and join our cause as possible. Wolves are in Washington to stay. It is that simple. How they are managed or if they are managed is still up for debate.

[KillBilly]

At least when we are all no longer able to deer, elk or moose hunt we'll be satisfied in the fact we stuck to the high road.

Sorry and call me crazy if you want but I will never put myself or my family in jeopardy when it comes to killing wolves. I am truly surprised that some of you guys would risk prison time and the damage it could do to your family over killing a wolf. You can't do much good for your wife and kids when you're sitting in a prison cell.
Not sure if it's that or the internet tough guy thing.

I don't think it is the internet tough guy thing.... it seems to be coming from a knowleagable and accomplished p(*&^*^r.   oops that is supposed to say Preacher

[teanawayslayer]

Well hear we are .. not thinking he would ever be in trouble killin wolves , thats not the case but if this rancher was smart enough I do not think he would of known better and try mailing it to another state ...       Seriously what do you think a mail carrier is going to do when they notice blood coming from a box ... these wolves moved down from Canada and he figured it was is duty to eliminate a couple ...

I don't know of to many hides that bleed or have blood on them.  Doesn't sound right to me.  Shipping the hide was deffinetly not the best they could have done.  All this bashing is driving me nuts.  Every one on here talks about how they hate wolves and don't want to see them in our hunting areas.  Well not everyone knows why the wolves were killed.  Did any of you think about the cattle.  I think if they were killing my cattle I would take matters into my own hands.  Did any of you think that the family contacted the wdfw about the wolves?  I would say they did.  The response was that there are no wolves in this area.  It is all a one side deal here.  Lets bash the poacher.  We should all stick together.  Don't you think that they are going through enough will all the court stuff.  We all make mistakes and we all have stuff we have done that we are not proud of.  Give the White's some support.  We as hunters should stick together.  This is the internet and people have there own opinions.  I understand this.  I met the whites this past winter and they are some of the nicest people I have ever met!  So go ahead keep bashing them.  If that makes you feel better.  I am not afraid to say that I support them and I hope they beat this thing!!!

[jackelope]

Well hear we are .. not thinking he would ever be in trouble killin wolves , thats not the case but if this rancher was smart enough I do not think he would of known better and try mailing it to another state ...       Seriously what do you think a mail carrier is going to do when they notice blood coming from a box ... these wolves moved down from Canada and he figured it was is duty to eliminate a couple ...

Who didn't think he would ever be in trouble for killing wolves?
"We" is not accurate.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Well hear we are .. not thinking he would ever be in trouble killin wolves , thats not the case but if this rancher was smart enough I do not think he would of known better and try mailing it to another state ...       Seriously what do you think a mail carrier is going to do when they notice blood coming from a box ... these wolves moved down from Canada and he figured it was is duty to eliminate a couple ...

Who didn't think he would ever be in trouble for killing wolves?
"We" is not accurate.

obvisously he did or he would not of killed them !!! nor would he mail them off ... so how should of I worded it ..and their was blood coming from a box because at one point it would not of held up in court because they opened the box without a search warrant  but I guess they got around that ....everything is a figure of speech seems like you can not make everyone happy on any given issue !!! way to many opinions on all this stuff !!