Dangerous Precedent- DNR Gives Gate Keys To Tribes for Bear Hunting, What's Next

[Special T]

Just like many things, we have spent our time and resources doing things outside of government. There are many places that need change in our state government. Everything from our local politicains, teachers, state reps and Gov act like they have little vested intrest in the sucess of our state. We need to take back our government by working in it... This isn't the fault of the tribes but rather our leadership... This is but the tip of the iceburg... It will be much easier to turn to the tribes to solve problems becasue of BS red tape that each agency has created themselves! 
Tribes ask and recieve... We ask and get shunned, belittled and taxed... Who is to blame? Those that ask? or those that make the decisions?

[Wenatcheejay]

Just like many things, we have spent our time and resources doing things outside of government. There are many places that need change in our state government. Everything from our local politicains, teachers, state reps and Gov act like they have little vested intrest in the sucess of our state. We need to take back our government by working in it... This isn't the fault of the tribes but rather our leadership... This is but the tip of the iceburg... It will be much easier to turn to the tribes to solve problems becasue of BS red tape that each agency has created themselves! 
Tribes ask and recieve... We ask and get shunned, belittled and taxed... Who is to blame? Those that ask? or those that make the decisions?

          

[bearpaw]

 

If I was a tribal member I would be right there baiting and hounding too. It is our state that is flawed, you can't blame the tribe for taking the opportunity when it's handed to them on a golden platter.

[True Sportsman]

If I was a tribal member I would be right there baiting and hounding too. It is our state that is flawed, you can't blame the tribe for taking the opportunity when it's handed to them on a golden platter.

Very well said. My thoughts exactly...

[Wenatcheejay]

If I was a tribal member I would be right there baiting and hounding too. It is our state that is flawed, you can't blame the tribe for taking the opportunity when it's handed to them on a golden platter.

Very well said. My thoughts exactly...

My how Tribal threads have changes since a few years ago. 

[bobcat]

What should be happening if there is an excessive number of bears in the area, the WDFW should have issued some spring bear permits.

Just like they did for Capitol Forest, which is state DNR land, from 2005 to 2009. This is ridiculous. We could have had 100 or more permits for spring bear hunting, but instead this opportunity goes to the indians.

It is true, the state cannot issue depredation permits for hound hunting of bears on state land. That's why ALL state land should have a numerous amount of spring bear permits. If the indians still want to go in and hunt the same areas, they are free to do so. But us "non-natives" should also be given the opportunity.

I also do not feel it is right for the tribal members to have keys that allow them to drive in behind gates where we cannot.

[trophyhunt]

I don't even know what to say, another reason to hate is all there doing.

[bobcat]

If I was a tribal member I would be right there baiting and hounding too. It is our state that is flawed, you can't blame the tribe for taking the opportunity when it's handed to them on a golden platter.

Very well said. My thoughts exactly...

My how Tribal threads have changes since a few years ago. 

I'm not sure how this is a change. We have always put plenty of blame on our government for these problems, both state and federal.

[Wenatcheejay]

If I was a tribal member I would be right there baiting and hounding too. It is our state that is flawed, you can't blame the tribe for taking the opportunity when it's handed to them on a golden platter.

Very well said. My thoughts exactly...

My how Tribal threads have changes since a few years ago. 

I'm not sure how this is a change. We have always put plenty of blame on our government for these problems, both state and federal.

Because there are not endless pages of flaming natives. I meant it as a complement. Maybe I am wrong and that never happened in the past. 

[bobcat]

Because there are not endless pages of flaming natives. I meant it as a complement. Maybe I am wrong and that never happened in the past. 

No need to be sorry. I guess I just didn't understand your comment.

[Jingles]

Well first off unless they are hunting on Tribal lands ( reservation) they should be required to hunt in accordance with the laws that apply to the general public. Dates, Times, Weapons, and ALL restrictions.  Second If they are supposedly hunting on Historic hunting grounds then they must use the weapons that they used during the same time period in history.

[asl20bball]

If racism is giving an advantage or favortism to one race of people over another then this is racism at its greatest form. It is SICKENING that government in the year 2011 endorses acts like this. They better at least change all the locks soon.

[rebal69972]

I'm younger and maybe alittle naive or maybe i just don't have enough experience in this type of fight and damn sure from a different part of the country but i live here now.With that said what can we do to change things not just this issue but the many that the hunter and outdoors men have? It seems to me that our rights and privileges are being takin away from us also our hard earned money is going to everywhere but where we feel it should be and used for everything but making hunting and conservation better. I'm willing to stand up for what i believe i just don't know where to start and could use alittle guidance from someone with alittle more knowledge then i have

[uncoolperson]

i just don't know where to start and could use alittle guidance from someone with alittle more knowledge then i have

could buy me my next deer tag... that's one deer that ain't getting shot.

[Special T]

There are 3 ways to affect change. Time, $$$, and Vote... You can spend your free time many ways but working toward your end goal. Vote! Get involved in politics If you don't care why should they? $$$ I think this is the most important way a single person can affect change. Lets face it, $$$ is the one equalizing factor because EVERYONE cares about it, and we don't have to convince someone else what to do with our money...

I give my time to my archery club Silver Arrow Bowmen in Mt Vernon and Pimp it every chance i get...
I don't vote for Jag-offs that don't use their noodle when making simple decisions that affect me.
I DON"T BUY FISHING LIC and vote my wallet. I hate the way the state runs fishing and have been treated badly so guess what? I DON'T FISH and gave my girl a bow instead of a pole.

The state can ignore my time and effort to convince them to do the right thing.
The state can count illegal votes and make end runs around my informed votes.
The State can TRY and bilk me for extra $$$ but it much harder... They need my money too and when enough other outdoors-men decide to quite or spend less, eventually someone will have to listen.