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Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: bearpaw on July 07, 2011, 06:36:35 PM
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Report Wolf Sightings Here
Every wolf sighting is important to help get wolves delisted in Washington. Please report any tracks, howling, dead wolves, hair samples, photos, audio or video, game kills, livestock predation, or sightings of wolves.
Please Understand: We must keep the WDFW accountable for wolf sightings, so here's the steps to take to keep the WDFW accountable and a list of helpful info to include in your wolf report. Feel free to message me if you wish to remain anonymous about who you are, I will gladly keep your identity confidential and file a report for you to the WDFW and on this forum.
- Report to WDFW: Pinpoint the sighting coordinates here: http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/
- Copy & Paste: Get the Latitude/Longitude coordinates from the WDFW map tool and report them here on the forum.
- When: Approx Date & Year of your sighting.
- Location: County, Game Management Unit, and the closest mountain or drainage.
- How Many: Report how many Wolves/Pups were inviolved in your sighting.
- Photos: Any photos or recordings are very helpful. Remember to lay something on the ground next to tracks for size comparison.
- Helpful Info: Note any details and explain why you think what you saw or heard was wolves.
- Accuracy: Be as factual as possible.
- Wildlife Commission: Copy the report you make here on the forum and send it to the wildlife commission: commission@dfw.wa.gov
Any info you can offer is important and will help get wolves delisted in Washington. Feel free to message me if you would like to remain anonymous.
THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR HELPING :tup:
WDFW Wolf Count (27 Wolves)
GMU 111 - Smackout Pack - 5 wolves - Stevens and Pend Oreille counties, including a successful breeding pair with three pups. None have collars.
GMU 113 - Diamond Pack - 10 wolves - Pend Oreille County and Idaho, including a breeding pair with at least two pups.
GMU 113 - Salmo Pack - 3 wolves - Pend Oreille County and British Columbia, includes three wolves. One wolf with a VHF radio collar.
GMU 242 - Lookout Pack - 2 wolves - Okanogan County, includes two wolves with no pups; neither has a functioning radio collar.
GMU 335 - Teanaway Pack - 7 wolves - Kittitas County, numbers seven wolves, including breeding pair with at least two pups. Female is collared.
More information on the packs and summaries of the 2011 count is available at: http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/
Hunting-Washington Minimum Wolf Count (158+ Wolves) (Includes WDFW Confirmed Wolves and the most likely Citizen Wolf Reports)
This is a minimum estimate of wolves created by combining the WDFW confirmed wolves and the most likely citizen sightings. Numerous wolf sightings which could be the same wolves as other sightings have not been included in this list. Sightings in many areas are supported by photos, video, sound recording, etc.
Spokane Reservation - 4 or more - Sightings of at least 4 wolves and possibly up to 8 or 10 wolves in area. Photos posted of tracks.
Colville Res Hellsgate - 3 or more - Hellsgate sightings indicate a new pack forming where the sheep were released this winter, at least 3 wolves.
Colville Reservation - 6 or more - Sightings suggest at least 6 wolves, up to 15+ and spreading, Photos of 3 posted, Sherman to Nespelem
GMU 101 - San Poil River - 4 or more - Numerous sightings in San Poil area south of Republic, seen killing deer and seen chasing deer, tracks seen.
GMU 101 - Sherman Crk - 4 or more - Tracks, howling, sightings, moose kill found, http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=91636.0
GMU 101 - Malo Area - 3 wolves - Reports of 3 wolves, trail cam photo of 1 wolf. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=91480.0
GMU 101 - Barstow - 1 wolf - Feb 2, 2012, 1 gray wolf on trailcam photo near Barstow, Washington. Photo posted in this topic.
GMU 105 - Kelly Hill - 6 or more - Numerous sightings, 2 adults & 4 pups, pack of 5, other sightings, cattle missing, photos of wolves in 2 areas.
GMU 111 - Smackout Pack - 5 wolves - Stevens and Pend Oreille counties, WDFW confirmed, successful breeding pair with three pups. No collars.
GMU 111 - Dominion - 5 adults - 2011, 3 sightings of 5 wolves near Colville, 2 reports north of Hwy 20, 1 report on LPO in 117, photo tracks.
GMU 113 - Diamond Pack - 10 wolves - Pend Oreille County and Idaho, including a breeding pair with at least two pups.
GMU 113 - Salmo Pack - 3 wolves - Pend Oreille County and British Columbia, includes three wolves. One wolf with a VHF radio collar.
GMU 113 - Cutoff Peak - 2 or more - Known border pack that moves in and out of Washington
GMU 117 - Chewelah CR - 4 to 6 - Tracks seen in numerous locations - Elk kill - Wolves in unit for years, numerous sightings, seen tracks myself.
GMU 121 - Huckleberry - 4 to 10 - Wolves in 2 areas, north around Monumental, and south around Hunters/Springdale, many people reporting.
GMU 124 - Mt Spokane - 1 or more - Several people reporting sightings south of Newport near the Idaho border in this unit.
GMU 127 - Mica Peak - 3 or more - Sept, Nov, Dec 2011, wolf scat, sightings of up to 3 wolves, 2 separate reports of howling, photo of tracks.
GMU 130 - Cheney - 2 wolves - Nov 5, 2011, one black and one gray seen on Yurnbull Refuge by a very experienced hunter and guide.
GMU 133 - Davenport - 1 or more - June to Oct 2011, several sightings of 1 or more wolves by more than 1 person, photos of tracks at sighting.
GMU 157 - Mill Creek Pack - 3 or more - Numerous sightings documented by WDFW
GMU 162 - Dayton - ? - Several people reported tracks or saw wolves chasing elk. At least 2 wolves, could be same as #166 & #169.
GMU 166 - Tucannon - 2 or more - Several reports and game warden confirmed wolf kill. At least 2 wolves, could be same as #162 & #169.
GMU 169 - Wenaha - ? - 1 wolf heard howling, photos of tracks in same area as the howling, could be same as in #162 & #166.
GMU 175 - Charlie Creek - 3 or more - October 2011, Sightings on four different days by 3 hunters include at least 1 gray and 2 blacks.
GMU 178 - Rickman Gulch - 1 wolf - October 19th, 2011 two hunters spotted a large black wolf off of Rickman Gulch Rd
GMU 204 - Toroda Area - 7 or more - 2010-2011, Numerous sightings near Waucanda, Republic, and Aeneas Valley, 7 wolves seen together.
GMU 215 - Sinlahekin - 1 or more - Video of one wolf, photos of 1 wolf, report of 4 wolves howling in 2011 suggesting more than one wolf.
GMU 218 - Chewuch - 3 wolves - 2011, numerous sightings and tracks seen, 3 wolves seen at 150 yards, 1 white wolf was watched with binos.
GMU 224 - Boulder Creek - 3 or more - At least 3 wolves, spotted tracks numerous times, as many as 3 together, reliable report, plus other reports.
GMU 231 - Wolf Creek - 12 wolves - This is a larger pack with 12 animals (pre litter 2011), report from a person who knows wolves.
GMU 239 - Chilliwist - 5 to 8 - At least 5 wolves, have heard reports of as many as 8, solid report from person who know wolves.
GMU 242 - Lookout Pack - 6 or more - WDFW confirms 2; in Dec 2010 resident has seen 5 together, has photo of 3, says at least 6 different seen.
GMU 242 - War Creek - 5 or more - Claimed by WDFW to be Lookout Pack, but War Creek and Lookout packs have been seen simultaneously
GMU 244 - Rennie Mtn - 3 or more - Sept 2011, dead buck found at den entrance, 3+ wolves made agressive moves toward hunter, gps, photos.
GMU 245 - Brushy Creek - 3 wolves - Oct 8, 2011, 1 black and 2 gray seen in the Brushy Creek area. There's been numerous sightings in the past.
GMU 335 - Teanaway Pack - 13 wolves - Kittitas County, WDFW confirms 7 wolves, Hunt-WA member reports 13 wolves, pups & adults seen together.
GMU 352 - Nile - 2 or more - Solid sighting, 2010, knowledgeable hunter tracked 2 wolves for considerable distance.
GMU 356 - Bumping - 1 wolf - Solid sighting in 2010 in Robinson, by knowledgeable hunter who tracked a single wolf.
GMU 368 - Eagles Nest - 1 wolf - Sighting of 1 black wolf by two hunters, large tracks seen where wolf was spotted and elk were running.
GMU 418 - Nooksack - 8 wolves - Photos, see Reply #43 (may be hybrids, WDFW should priortize confirmation and remove if they are hybrids)
GMU 450 - Glacier Wilder. - 1 wolf - Oct 2011, Photos of a single wolf tracks 18 miles in from nearest road up the Suiattle River drainage.
GMU 505 - Mossyrock - 1 wolf - Dec 31, 2011, Spotted 1 wolf black with lighter side, in south GMU 505. Trailcams set up to try for pics.
GMU 516 - Packwood - 2 wolves - 2010 & 2011, Numerous sightings of tracks, two sightings of wolves, at least 2 wolves in this area.
GMU 560 - Lewis River - 1 or more - Fall 2011, A total of six hunters at three different locations report seeing a wolf in the Lewis River GMU.
Individual Wolf Sightings In Washington
Many of these reports include supporting evidence such as gps location, photos, recordings, etc. These sightings support the wolf counts noted above. Because all reports were not included in the count, there is possibly an even greater number of wolves than the minimum noted above.
Spokane Reservation - 2 to 3 - Dec 19, 2011, Spotted 2-3 sets of wolf tracks on a deer kill.
Spokane Reservation - 4 or 5 - Dec 19, 2011, Partner spotted 4-5 sets of wolf tracks at a different location.
Spokane Reservation - 1 wolf - Nov 16, 2011, Coming out of the woods with a friend and heard a faint couple of howls.
Spokane Reservation - 1 wolf - Nov 15, 2011, while taking photo of wolf track, heard 1 wolf howl 8 to 10 times, photo posted here.
Colville Res, Hellsgate - 3 wolves - 2011, A new pack establishing in Hellsgate, this year there were 3 working where they moved the sheep.
Colville Res, Nespelem - 1 or more - Jan 2012, Wolves killed a mule deer doe less than 100 yards from a home. Photos posted in this topic.
Colville Res, San Poil - 6 or more - 2012, Reports suggest 1 or 2 packs, at least 6 wolves, could be up to 15+.
Colville Res, Hall Creek - 2 wolves - Feb 13, 2012, Just heard two wolves the other night up hall creek. Definetly don't sound like yotes at all.
Colville Res, Hall Creek - 1 wolf - 2011, Trailcam photo of wolf south of Dollar Mtn on the Colville Reservation.
Colville Reservation - numerous - 2011, Estimate 12 in the pack, lower Coville Res, I almost got one on film the other day.
Yakima Reservation - 1 or more - Wolves spotted throughout the reservation from the north to central and south also the west boundary
GMU 101 - San Poil River - 4 wolves - December 2010, 4 wolves seen killing whitetail doe on banks of the San Poil River near McMann Creek.
GMU 101 - San Poil River - 4 wolves - December 2009 I found 4 sets of fresh wolf tracks in the snow near Quartz Mt.
GMU 101 - San Poil River - 3 wolves - February 2008, Spotted 3 wolves on bluff over McMann Creek.
GMU 101 - San Poil River - 4 wolves - October 2008, Spotted 4 wolves killing a whitetail buck near Camel Back Mt. Near Republic.
GMU 101 - San Poil River - 1 wolf - 2008 near Swan Lake, almost dark and coyotes were yapping when my wife and I heard a lone wolf howl.
GMU 101 - San Poil River - 2 wolves - November 2000, Two hunters spotted 2 wolves on Snow Peak chasing a mule deer doe.
GMU 101 - Sherman Crk - 3 wolves - January 2012 moose kill found, fresh tracks: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=91636.0
GMU 101 - Sherman Crk - 1 wolf - Oct 25, 2011, 1 black wolf on trailcam near Sherman Pass. Photo posted in this topic.
GMU 101 - Sherman Crk - 1 wolf - Oct 18, 2011, 1 gray wolf on trailcam near Sherman Pass. Photo posted in this topic.
GMU 101 - Sherman Crk - 4 or more - 2011, Several reports from this area of tracks, howling, sightings, with at least 4 at one time.
GMU 101 - Sherman Crk - 3 wolves - 2011, Hunter tried to sort out tracks in the Sherman area and believe that pack to be as many as 12 strong.
GMU 101 - Republic - 1 wolf - April 2009, one black adult seen from about 70 yards away, north of Republic.
GMU 101 - Republic - 1 wolf - Dec 2011, Republic area, photo with a 22-250 in the track which measured about 5 x 4 1/2 inches.
GMU 101 - Malo Area - 3 wolves - Summer 2011, 3 seen, photo of 1 wolf. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=91480.0
GMU 101 - Barstow - 1 wolf - Feb 2, 2012, 1 gray wolf on trailcam photo near Barstow, Washington. Photo posted in this topic.
GMU 105 - Summit Lake - 5 wolves - Jan 2, 2012, trailcam photo of 1 wolf who is member of a pack of 5 wolves. Photo posted.
GMU 105 - Northport - 1 wolf - Nov 3, 2011, Trailcam photo of 1 adult wolf near Northport.
GMU 105 - Sheep Creek - 6 or more - Summer and Fall 2010, Numerous sightings of at least 4 pups and 2 adults all around this area.
GMU 105 - Flat Creek - 2 or more - Local rancher reports numerous sightings and hearing howling during 2010 and 2011.
GMU 105 - Flat Creek - 2 wolves - Local hunter heard 2 wolves howling the weekend of July 3, 2011 near Pierre Lake.
GMU 105 - Kelly Hill - 2 or more - July 2011, two wolves heard howling.
GMU 105 - Summit Lake - 4 or more - Sept 2011, well known local hunter, truck broke down and was on foot, surrounded by a howling pack.
GMU 105 - Summit Lake - 1 wolf - Sept 17, 2011, 1 black wolf spotted in road by longtime hunter, several sightings and howling in same area.
GMU 108 - Douglas Mt - 2 wolves - Summer 2010, 2 wolves seen, reliable report by an individual who helped locate another verified pack.
GMU 108 - Douglas Mt - 1 wolf - Summer 2010, 1 wolf seen alone, very reliable report by a person who has seen many wolves in Idaho.
GMU 108 - Rogers Mt - 1 wolf - Oct 22, 2011, 1 wolf on trailcam near Rogers Mtn. Photo in this topic.
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GMU 111 - Alladin - 1 wolf - 2005, I saw a big white one just east of smackout pass on the Ione side.
GMU 111 - Alladin - 4 or 5 - Winter 09/10 and 10/11 tracks of 4 or 5 wolves traveling together seen many times, Meadow Cr & Smackout.
GMU 111 - Alladin - 2 adults - Winter 2009 & 2010 tracks of 2 adult wolves traveling together seen many times near Ione.
GMU 111 - Alladin - 1 wolf - July 8, 2011, A large male less than 80 yards from the back of the ranch house on a small hill top.
GMU 111 - Alladin - 1 wolf - Aug 10, 2011, We stood eye balling each other for up to 2 minutes before he turned and trotted off.
GMU 111 - Alladin - 1 wolf - Aug 30, 2011, Saw the large male wolf behind the house, have concerns as I have 5 labs here.
GMU 111 - Hooknose Mtn - 5 wolves - Sept 2011, Fresh tracks in the mud, very remote area near Hooknose Mtn, at least 2 adults and 3 pups.
GMU 111 - Smackout - 4 to 5 - Sept 7 to 13, 2011, Camped near Smackout Meadow, heard wolves howl daily in mornings & late evenings.
GMU 111 - Smackout - 3 wolves - Sept 8, 2011, Saw three black wolves feeding on a dead cow in the lower Smackout Meadow.
GMU 111 - Smackout - 3 wolves - Sept 9, 2011, (about 7 a.m.) 3 people saw 3 black wolves running along far edge of lower Smackout Mdw.
GMU 111 - Smackout - 4 wolves - Sept 11, 2011, (about 8 a.m.) 2 people saw 4 black wolves feeding on the dead cow in Smackout Meadow.
GMU 111 - Meadow Lake - 1 wolf - Oct, 2011, A trailcam photo posted of a wolf near Meadow Lake in October, 2011.
GMU 111 - Dominion Area - 5 wolves - July, 2011, 5 adults attacked dogs in a kennel in a back yard, shots fired to avert the attack. Prouty Loop.
GMU 111 - Dominion Area - 5 wolves - Summer 2011, landowner reported seeing 5 adult wolves near his home just east of Colville near Hwy 20.
GMU 111 - Frisco Road - 1 or more - November 2011, Hunter heard howls in Frisco (Cedar creek).
GMU 111 - Smackout - 2 wolves - Jan 28, 2012, Fresh tracks chasing a moose 2 miles on Paradise, cornered moose once, left road following.
GMU 111 - Dominion Area - 2 wolves - Jan 29, 2012, trapper found tracks of 2 wolves on Dominion Mtn, photo of tracks posted.
GMU 113 - Baldy Mtn - 6 or more - Oct 2011, Hunter posted video recording of wolves howling, sounded like 6 or 7 wolves.
GMU 117 - LPO Refuge - 5 adults - Dec 11, 2011, Watched for minutes, LPO river, refuge headquarters, some gray, some brown. Dominion?
GMU 117 - Chewelah CR - 4 to 6 - Winter 2010, tracks seen numerous locations including a bull elk kill, seen tracks myself for years in area.
GMU 121 - Huckleberry - 1 wolf - Oct 17, 2011, Heard wolf howling near the summit, recorded on cell phone, posted on KREM2 News website.
GMU 121 - Huckleberry - 1 wolf - Oct 3, 2011, Saw 1 very large black wolf cross the Hunters/Springdale road, near summit on Hunters side.
GMU 121 - Huckleberry - 2 wolves - Oct 4, 2011, Tracks on Hunters/Springdale summit last weekend, at least two wolves running together.
GMU 121 - Huckleberry - 1 wolf - April 2008, the east side of Mt. Empey, 3 of us saw a Lone gray/dirty white colored wolf, about 100 yards.
GMU 124 - Little Spokane - 2 wolves - Sept 11, 2011, Saw and photographed (with phone) 2 wolves chasing turkeys on Rattlesnake Ridge.
GMU 124 - Little Spokane - 2 wolves - Nov 23, 2011, Saw 2 wolves chasing turkeys on 32 acres of private ground near St Georges.
GMU 124 - Mt Spokane - 1 or more - Several people reporting sightings south of Newport near the Idaho border in this unit.
GMU 124 - Mt Spokane - 1 or more - Local resident living south of Newport right on the Idaho line has heard wolves howling for the last 3 years.
GMU 127 - Mica Peak - 3 wolves - Dec 14, 2011, 3 wolves seen and photo taken of track and posted in this topic.
GMU 127 - Mica Peak - 2 wolves - Nov 4, 2011, Seen in Rock Cr south of Freeman, didn't report, WDFW didn't believe previous sighting.
GMU 127 - Mica Peak - 1 or more - Sept 2011, wolf scat found and sightings by numerous people, IEP gate keeper has also heard howling.
GMU 130 - Cheney - 1 wolf - 2007 Late fall, One wolf spotted 26 miles west of spokane while hunting the late archery season.
GMU 130 - Cheney - 2 wolves - Nov 5, 2011, One black and one gray seen on turnbull refuge by a very experienced hunter.
GMU 133 - Roosevelt - 1 or more - June to Oct 2011, several sightings of 1 or more wolves near Davenport by several people, photos tracks.
GMU 133 - more info coming
GMU 139 - Steptoe - 1 wolf - Nov 5, 2011, Three hunters followed one lone wolf track that appeared to be hunting deer north of Colfax.
GMU 157 - more info coming
GMU 162 - Dayton - 5 wolves - Oct 15, 2011, large black wolf seen by hunter at 50 yards near Robinette Mountain
GMU 162 - Dayton - 1 wolf - Oct 4, 2010, 1 black wolf on trailcam near Griffin Peak. Photo posted in this topic.
GMU 162 - Dayton - 1 wolf - October 24 or 25, 2009, after dark, 1 dark colored wolf crossed the road in front of us near Griffin Peak.
GMU 166 - Tucannon - 2 wolves - 2009, Driving road & 5 elk busted across the road, soon 2 wolves cross the road in front of me.
GMU 166 - Tucannon - 2 wolves - 2009, Fall, the middle of the night we were awoke by a lone howl from the end of the ridge we camped on.
GMU 166 - Tucannon - 2 or more - Oct 17, 2011, Heard wolves two nights in a row off the panjab trail, near Elk Flat, 1 mile from the burn.
GMU 166 - Tucannon - 2 or more - Oct 18, 2011, Heard wolves two nights in a row off the panjab trail, near Teal ridge.
GMU 169 - Wenaha - 1 wolf - Oct 2009, Heard howling, photos of tracks in same area as the howling. Reply #12, picture #1.
GMU 169 - Wenaha - 1 wolf - Apr 2009, Found tracks in southeast, photo of track in Reply #12, picture #2.
GMU 175 - Lick Creek - 1 wolf - May 20, 2011, Hunter followed 4.5 inch long tracks for a mile near Charlie Cr in Donaldson Gulch (4206 Rd).
GMU 175 - Lick Creek - 3 adults - Oct 18, 19, 20, 2011, Two hunters saw wolves 3 days in a row, 1 gray and 2 black near Charlie Creek.
GMU 175 - Lick Creek - 1 wolf - Sept 23, 2011, near Devil's Tailbone, while calling we saw 1 grey wolf about 200yds away.
GMU 178 - Rickman Gulch - 1 wolf - October 19th, 2011 two hunters spotted a large black wolf off of Rickman Gulch Rd
GMU 204 - Aeneas Valley - 1 wolf - Spotted about 2 1/2 miles up FS-30 rd, OUT OF AENEAS Valley
GMU 204 - E Okanogan - 3 wolves - Nov 17 or 18, 2010, Saw 3 wolves, coyotes had them surrounded and harassing them.
GMU 204 - E Okanogan - 1 wolf - Sept, 2011, Saw first wolf yesterday, talked to border patrol, said they've been seeing and hearing them.
GMU 204 - Toroda Area - 4 wolves - 2010, Winter, Group of 4 seen north of Waucanda west of Republic.
GMU 204 - Toroda Area - 3 or 4 - 2010, Winter, Tracks from 3 or 4 seen near the state highway west of Republic.
GMU 204 - Aeneas Valley - 7 wolves - 2011, Fall, Logger spotted pack of 7 wolves.
GMU 204 - Aeneas Valley - 7 wolves - 2011, Fall, Farmer spotted pack of 7 wolves.
GMU 215 - Sinlahekin - 4 or more - Sept 7, 2011, a mile south of blue lake, heard at least 4 howl at first light, could have been as many as 6.
GMU 215 - Sinlahekin - 1 wolf - Video sent to the WDFW who claimed it was the lookout pack, unlikely, Lookout pack is too far away.
GMU 215 - Sinlahekin - 2 wolves - November 2010. Just a few miles north from Lake Conconully, 2 people watched 2 wolves for 15 minutes.
GMU 215 - Sinlahekin - 1 wolf - August 31, 2010
GMU 215 - Sinlahekin - 1 wolf - Aug 31, 2010 Trailcam photo of 1 wolf on Pine Creek, WDFW dismissed as a transient wolf.
GMU 215 - Sinlahekin - 1 wolf - Aug 7, 2011 Trailcam photo of 1 wolf on Pine Creek in the same area, strongly suggesting a local wolf.
GMU 218 - Mazama - 1 wolf - 10/17/11 by a hunter who's seen wolves in Idaho watched a single gray wolf, other hunters report 5" tracks.
GMU 218 - Sweet Grass - 1 wolf - 2011 hunters watched wolf 10 min, Sweet Grass Butte north of the tower. Lat-48.697472 Lon-120.322942
GMU 218 - Goat Peak - 1 wolf - Saw tracks up by the Goat Peak Look out trail head. Photo posted here, GPS: 48.651464,-120.401951
GMU 218 - Parachute Mds - 3 wolves - Oct 15, 2011, Three wolves were seen at 150 yards about 8am, one white one was watched with binos.
GMU 224 - Boulder Creek - 3 or more - At least 3 wolves, spotted tracks numerous times, as many as 3 together, reliable report, plus other reports.
GMU 224 - Pearrygin - 1 wolf - Summer 2008, Two hunters saw tracks near the Spur road off of Oriole in GMU 224. Seen tracks in Idaho.
GMU 231 - Wolf Creek - 12 wolves - This is a larger pack with 12 animals (pre litter 2011), report from a person who knows wolves.
GMU 239 - Chilliwist - 5 to 8 - At least 5 wolves, have heard reports of as many as 8, solid report from person who knows wolves.
GMU 239 - Chilliwist - 2 wolves - 2006, 3 mile in Yockey Creek, saw 2 adult wolves (one black, one white) on edge of a meadow for 2 min.
GMU 242 - Alta - 1 or more - March 2011, Found wolves likely of the Lookout pack this winter near the Golden Doe wildlife refuge.
GMU 242 - Alta - 4 wolves - Nov 25, 2011, Hunter saw two gray wolves heading up to lookout mt. close to twisp.
GMU 242 - Alta - 4 wolves - Dec 21, 2011, watched 4 very dark colored wolves laying in a field for over 1 1/2 hours this afternoon.
GMU 242 - Alta - 3 wolves - Dec 21, 2011, saw 3 wolves, all medium color, at least 2 were different than woloves I watched 2 days ago.
GMU 242 - Alta - 5 wolves - Dec 24, 2011, 5 wolves trotted the length of the big field across the river from Carlton.
GMU 244 - Rennie Mtn - 3 or more - Sept 2011, dead buck found at den entrance, 3+ wolves made agressive moves toward hunter, gps, photos.
GMU 245 - Brushy Creek - 3 wolves - Oct 8, 2011, 1 black and 2 gray seen, the Brushy Creek area. There's been numerous sightings in the past.
GMU 335 - Teanaway - 3 wolves - Nov 18, 2011, Saw 3 on I 90 on the way to the Entiat, just a few miles before Easton. Not a yoty
GMU 335 - Teanaway - 13 wolves - 2011, Hunt-WA member reports 13 wolves, pups and adults seen together in one pack.
GMU 335 - Teanaway - 3 wolves - 2011, While elk hunting 3 wolves seen for SURE in Carlson Canyon.
GMU 335 - Teanaway - 1 wolf - Sept 7, 2011, Posted trailcam pic in another topic of 1 wolf in the teanaway, reported to WDFW.
GMU 335 - Teanaway - numerous - 2011, tracks seen in Musser, Mills, Blue, Indian, Middle, and Iron Creek, Yellow Hill, Red Top, Swauk Prarie.
GMU 335 - Teanaway - 2 wolves - Dec 25, 2011, Two wolves spotted in Watt canyon.
GMU 335 - Teanaway - 2 adults - Jan 17, 2012, Two sets of adult wolf tracks, 1 set of tracks was spotting blood in snow, likely female in heat.
GMU 336 - Taneum - 3 or more - 2010, up on Elk Heights, we heard 3+ and saw two at about 300 yards, too big and dark for 'yotes.
GMU 343 - Lake Chelan - 1 wolf - Hunter watched a single wolf through his spotting scope above Lake Chelan.
GMU 346 - Little Naches - 2 wolves - 1996, I took pictures of two wolves in the Little Naches area off of the 1902 road.
GMU 352 - Nile - 2 or more - 2010, Solid sighting, knowledgeable hunter tracked 2 wolves for considerable distance.
GMU 352 - Nile - 1 wolf - 2009, Clover Springs, windy ridge, just after the trail to Flat Iron Lk. Saw tracks in photo. (Reply #39)
GMU 356 - Bumping - 1 wolf - Solid sighting in 2010 in Robinson, by knowledgeable hunter who tracked a single wolf.
GMU 368 - Eagles Nest - 1 wolf - Sighting of 1 black wolf by two hunters, large tracks seen where wolf was spotted and elk were running.
GMU 418 - Nooksack - 8 wolves - Photos, see Reply #43 (may be hybrids, WDFW should priortize confirmation and remove if they are hybrids)
GMU 418 - Nooksack - 1 or more - July 24, 2011, late evening, walked old loggin road 3-4 miles, heard howls, saw tracks, photo, Reply #41.
GMU 426 - Diablo - 2 wolves - Several sightings near Washington Pass, 2 seen there, 2 years ago, was just west of the pass.
GMU 450 - Glacier Wldrns - 1 wolf - Oct 2011, Photos of a single wolf tracks 18 miles in from the nearest road up the Suiattle River drainage.
GMU 505 - Mossyrock - 1 wolf - Dec 31, 2011, Spotted 1 wolf black with lighter side, in south GMU 505. Trailcams set up to try for pics.
GMU 516 - Packwood - 1 or more - Dec 2011, Was Chrismas tree hunting and ran across a bunch of what appeared to be wolf tracks.
GMU 516 - Packwood - 1 wolf - 1997, Sighting in July, tracks found in Sept 1997.
GMU 516 - Packwood - 2 wolves - Nov 10, 2010, Two sets of tracks chasing elk near Goat Ridge and saw 1 gray wolf eating on an elk carcasse.
GMU 522 - Boundary Trail - 1 wolf - 9/18/2011 Photo of fresh tracks, 1/4 mile from Snow lake, Cold water trail 211 (boundary GMU 522/524
GMU 524 - Mudflow Area - 5 wolves - June 26, 2011, 5 wolves howling at 5:30 am, they were at the 34 mile marker up the Spirit Lake HWY
GMU 560 - Lewis River - 1 wolf - Sighting by two hunters on the north side of Mount Adams just west of the crest.
GMU 560 - Lewis River - 1 wolf - Nov 1, 2011, Black/grey wolf followed 2 hunters above Kalama horse camp, photo of track bigger than a fist.
GMU 560 - Lewis River - 1 wolf - Nov 9, 2011, Two Hunters watched large grey feeding on the gutpile of a deer they killed the day before.
GMU 572 - Siouxon - 1 wolf - Nov 14, 2011, Hiking (in snow) 5 miles off the PCT, wolf tracks, 4 fingers wide by 5 fingers long, long stride.
GMU 572 - Siouxon - 1 or more - 2011, Fall, A bow hunter heard wolves hwling from his camp near the PCT.
GMU 673 - Williams Creek - 2 wolves - Oct 20, 2011, One black and one grey, 7:05am, exact location, 2200 road just off the main hwy 101 South.
GMU 673 - Williams Creek - 1 wolf - 1994, Saw 1 large grey standing broadside. He was clearly a wolf, as he was less than 30 yards from us.
Additional Wolf Sightings (GMU was not specified, please advise if you know which GMU these sightings occured)
GMU ??? - Chewelah - 1 or more - Sept 2011, wolf tracks 6-8 miles south of chewelah on two different outings while elk hunting.
GMU ??? - Chewelah - several - Sept 6, 2011, heard a pack howling while packing a bull elk out south of Chewelah.
GMU ??? - Soap Lake - 2 wolves - Nov 2011, Watched a pair in the Soap lake area.
GMU ??? - Soap Lake - 2 wolves - Howling wolves spooked some deer we were stalking, this was 5 miles from the other sighting.
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Great Idea! We can definetly use this to help pressure the WDFW into confirming these packs a lot faster then they have been. It atleast will make it harder for them to drag their feet...
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The lookoput pack is still present though of reduced numbers in its original location.
There is a new pack on the other side of the river, generalized location East to southeast of the lookout pack. The amount of animals range between 5-8.
There is another pack seperate from the lookout pack ranging in the wolf creek region, all the way over into Thompson ridge and Bridge creek. This is often referrred to as the lookout pack, but it is not. Its between 8-12 animals, is well established and is expanding.
There are some animals ranging out of the Pasayten into the Pearygin region. These are more migratory during the winter. I don't have a specific local on these.
There are also several animals ranging in the irongate country. These MAY be the same and these may be related to the animals that have been reported in the Sinlahekin.
There are animals in War Creek. Again these are thought of as "lookoutpack" critters, but they have been spotted in the same place at the same time......unless I collect a DNA sample, at this point, its hard to determine
I tracked a couple in the Nile this last fall.
I tracked one in Robinson near E burg and there were the ones in the Teanaway
There is a pack in the Sanpoil. It has been sending out individuals into Southern and Eastern regions.
There is a pack in Leclerc Creek. (probably refered to as the Diamond pack) It crosses to and from Idaho.
There is a pack in the blues as evidenced by those in the know but unofficially confirmed as far as I know. I know the biologist monitors this site, so he can man up and post what he knows if he wants. I Know he knows there are wolves there and that they are NOT just transient
There are unconfirmed sightings in Lincoln county, Baker, Blue Creek and several other locals. Unconfirmed to me,meaning I haven't seen them or confirmed their tracks myself.
Scoff all you want. If someone wants to give me a grant I'd spend my life out there and get all the evidence you'd need. Its too bad that those on the budget assigned to study these animals, DON'T HAVE A CLUE.
If you are concerned at all about expansion, you can expect more animals in the Mica Peak area soon as Idaho is knocking on the doorstep.
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I also expect animals to show up in the CHelan/Entiat region soon. Why......you figure it out. I spend very little time in this country, so that will be up to someone else.
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Thanks boneaddict, I figured you could provide some good data. :tup: :tup: :tup:
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Your probably our best resource for finding/exposing new packs.keep up the great work.
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I wish I could get out more. I guess what is most concerning is that it seems whereever I go, I run into the critters. I suppose thats becasue I grew up in the Methow and I am usually in the backcountry where they frequent or spend alot of my time in key areas that have been the centers for wolf activity for years. I'm not a lobbyist, or an alarmist. Folks can believe what they want.
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There is a pack in the blues as evidenced by those in the know but unofficially confirmed as far as I know. I know the biologist monitors this site, so he can man up and post what he knows if he wants. I Know he knows there are wolves there and that they are NOT just transient
The local game warden investigated and confirmed several wolf kills in the Blues this winter. Personally, I've seen two sets of tracks in two geographic locations over the winter. Also, I think I saw two wolves once this winter but they were too far away to be sure they were wolves and not just big dogs or coyotes. Some locals have trailcam pictures of wolves. They're up there.
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10heiau can you provide the GMU number and drainage that you saw tracks?
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Tracks were in 162. Confirmed wolf kills in 166.
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3 summers ago My dad and I found some tracks near Conconully. The next day we heard from some locals that there had been a wolf spotted on the exact same spur road where we found the tracks (they told us about the sighting and location before we even mentioned finding tracks). It was just one set. It was on a spur road off of Oriole in GMU 224. Yes both my father and I know the difference between Wolf tracks and coyote tracks. We have got to see a lot of wolf tracks since we started hunting Idaho.
GPS coordinates = roughly 48.625541,-119.837097
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1. October 2009. Wenaha East. We hear a solo howl one night. Next day I found these about a mile from camp. 4 1/2"X 3 1/2". (picture 1)
2. April 2009. SE corner. (picture 2)
I am not an expert but I have never seen a coyote track over 4" long and 3" wide. :dunno:
Bluebulls and I thought we saw a black and a grey 2 years ago in the Blues. We could not be sure though.
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There is a pack in the blues as evidenced by those in the know but unofficially confirmed as far as I know. I know the biologist monitors this site, so he can man up and post what he knows if he wants. I Know he knows there are wolves there and that they are NOT just transient
The local game warden investigated and confirmed several wolf kills in the Blues this winter. Personally, I've seen two sets of tracks in two geographic locations over the winter. Also, I think I saw two wolves once this winter but they were too far away to be sure they were wolves and not just big dogs or coyotes. Some locals have trailcam pictures of wolves. They're up there.
+/- 6-7 years ago one of the WDFW biologists was at my inlaws place investigating the sighting of 5 or so wolves in 178 Peola in the farm country. If I remember correctly, the bio came out 1 day and then he came back another day with some more folks to do some looking. They could not find anything to get DNA off of so no "confirmation". It was never denied by any of them that they were there though.
Then in the last 2 years or so the Garfield county official was monitoring the condition of one of the main roads into the National Forest that they are using for running log trucks. HE was up there watching the roads because they can only run the log trucks when the ground is hard or frozen. He saw a group of 3 what he thought were wolves. This was less than a mile from where the group I mentioned above were. The next day there was a WDFW bio out there, another guy I don't know where from and from what I understood at the time an Idaho bio out there with tracking instruments. The reason for that I was told was because at the time there were no "washington collared" wolves in the southeast corner. I don't think they ever found anything with the tracking collars either and I heard that the guy saw the wolves naked-eyed +/-500 yards out in the wheat stubble so he wasn't "positive" that one of them had a collar on.
WDFW bio's have confirmed a single wolf down there just outside the Pomeroy farm country in the foothills more than 6-7 years ago 1 time but they have not been able to confirm a breeding pair to date.
(All of these storied were reported to me through another person who is close to the location. There may be a detail that is off a little here or there but they're close enough. Call this a disclaimer if you want to)
Tracks were in 162. Confirmed wolf kills in 166.
I am 99% sure they are actively working in the wilderness area of 166 to confirm a breeding pair. I know they were a year or 2 ago. I'd be fairly confident that they still are.
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To provide validity to the confirmed wolf kills in 166, I was told first hand by the game warden that investigated the kill sites that the predator(s) responsible for the killings was(were) indeed wolves. How many? He couldn't be sure. But I had an hour long conversation with him on the subject and he told me all about the kill sites and described to me how he was able to identify the kills as wolf kills and not a cougar or some other predator.
Also, I was under the impression that the wolves in the Wenaha had achieved "pack" status. There was one killed on the Oregon side last fall though so maybe that pack has too few wolves now to be officially designated as a "pack".
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Also, I was under the impression that the wolves in the Wenaha had achieved "pack" status. There was one killed on the Oregon side last fall though so maybe that pack has too few wolves now to be officially designated as a "pack".
Being a confirmed pack has nothing to do with # of wolves. Breeding pairs is a better terminology than pack. There has to be evidence of breeding. The trailcam pics of the lactating female in the Teanaway was the meat and potatoes that made that pack a valid or "confirmed" pack or breeding pair. The breeding pair term is the meat and potatoes. Everybody blasts the WDFW for this but I suspect it's a USFWS thing and not a state thing.
I'm not sure if the Wenaha pack is an actual pack on the Oregon side but if it is then it's an Oregon pack and not a Washington pack.
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I'm not sure if the Wenaha pack is an actual pack on the Oregon side but if it is then it's an Oregon pack and not a Washington pack.
With free reign to come kill Washington elk whenever they want because unless they have a den here they aren't "ours" :bash:
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http://www.dfw.state.or.us/Wolves/wenaha_wolf_pack.asp (http://www.dfw.state.or.us/Wolves/wenaha_wolf_pack.asp)
If this isn't meat and potatoes enough then I don't know what is. Yeah, yeah Oregon I know. As far as I'm concerned, if they're in the Wenaha, they might as well be Washington wolves too. Last I heard, wolves don't pay much attention to state lines. :dunno:
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Last I heard, wolves don't pay much attention to state lines. :dunno:
Agreed...I think you'd have a hard time convincing everyone of that though, especially the guys that don't think they can walk here from Canada or Idaho or Oregon. Apparently the only way is in a truck.
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saw 2 around the nw border of 166 & 162 a couple years ago while turk hunting. was putting down this little road & 5 elk busted across the road, through the barb wire fence & stoped in the field about 40 yrds out, turned & looked( i had assumed at me). couldent get the camera out before they busted again into the next tree line. couple hundred yards up the road & these 2 wolves cross in front of me. i stopped & went WTF??. about 1/4 mile down the road i ran into a land owner tending fence & stoped to ask about hunting his property. as the discussion went on i mentioned what i had just seen & he calmly said , oh- there back like it was a common ordeal. that fall while elk hunting 166 we ran into a forest service guy that was overseeing the thinning along the road. he said he had seen a few & also witnessed them chasing elk. last season, in the middle of the night we were awoke by what i believe was a lone howl from the end of the ridge we camped on. again in 166.
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GMU 121. Late April of 2008 while turkey hunting. West out of Springdale on the east side of Mt. Empey, bout halfway to the top. Lone gray/dirty white colored wolf, all 3 of us saw it at the same time about 100 yards slightly uphill from us. This was no yote and this was no dog, all of us will swear to that. As soon as it spotted us it bolted northwest and uphill into the thick timber.
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2006 - Chiliwist (Yockey Creek) - three mile hike from an old crushed rock road. Two adult wolves (one black, one white) playing together near the edge of a meadow on the top of a ridge. I was sitting on a rock on the top of the ridge at midday with my dad during deer season, resting, and getting ready to eat lunch when we saw movement at the treeline about 150 yards out at the bottom of the ridge. Put our binoculars on it and watched them for about 2 minutes, clear as day, two large wolves, one pure black and one mostly white, playing at the bottom of the clearing. We were well above them and out of sight and smell, so they never spotted us. I never even knew there were wolves up there at that point and I have never seen wolves up there since, but I have ran into two bears in that same area.
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Thanks for everyones help, keep the info coming, every sighting reported helps to substantiate that there must be wolves in a GMU. I will keep the first post updated as new reports come in. This information will undoubtedly be helpful in the future. Remember to get pictures of anything wolf related. :tup:
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Just a little correction for the OP GMU 224 is Pearrygin not Boulder. Not trying to step on any toes just trying to keep everything accurate for when we have to use it.
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Just a little correction for the OP GMU 224 is Pearrygin not Boulder. Not trying to step on any toes just trying to keep everything accurate for when we have to use it.
It might be confusing, I listed the unit number and then an area for a possible name for a pack, some are specific local areas rather than the unit names.
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Just a little correction for the OP GMU 224 is Pearrygin not Boulder. Not trying to step on any toes just trying to keep everything accurate for when we have to use it.
It might be confusing, I listed the unit number and then an area for a possible name for a pack, some are specific local areas rather than the unit names.
Ok gotcha. :tup:
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Smackout Pack Confirmed
Just finished a phone call with a local rancher.
My son and I have been watching and reporting about the wolves in GMU 111 there were two groups all winter using the same areas in the unit. One group of two stayed just above Ione on the east side, the other group lives near Smackout Meadows on the west side of Smackout Pass. Brian has had them howl back before, but they did not answer back when I have been there. We have recieved comments doubting our claims of these wolves.
(Last year another local person got a trailcam picture of a black wolf just a few miles from this same area.)
We had warned a local rancher who runs cattle in the area that we were seeing tracks and so he has been watching closely. In June he just started putting his cattle out on pasture, recently he and his wife were repairing fence because his cattle have been run through fences several times during June, they heard a wolf howl a ways off in the woods, so (not really expecting anything to happen) he howls at the wolf, within seconds the wolf howls back and its closer, it howls a couple more times as it comes closer, within a few minutes they can hear the wolf moving in the brush within yards of them, they jumped in their rig and got the **** out of there.
There is a spot Brian had told me looked like an area the wolves would like to den above the meadows. He is extremely familiar with wolves having lived around them in central Idaho. The rancher told me he has heard at least two different wolves howling together right in there this summer. So he and his son rode in there looking for the wolves. They had a wolf circling and barking at them as they rode through there, they also spotted three pups in the area.
The rancher called the WDFW who pulled a trapper out of the selkirk area to come monitor these wolves. So far the trapper has caught, took dna, tagged one pup, and released it. He couldn't put a collar on the pup as it was too small for a collar.
So far the ranchers cattle have been run through several fences and spend most of their time grouped up in the meadows rather than spreading out like normal. I told him the wolves are prey testing his cattle and he knows it too. I also told him that I was afraid he may be the next rancher in the news with wolf losses, he knows that too.
I have to commend the rancher for trying to do everything the right way. The only thing he expects in return is that WDFW properly document these wolves, comes up with a reasonable management plan, that his cattle can be protected, and that his losses are recoverable.
WDFW now has proof this pack exists, they are trying to catch more of the wolves, and they have trailcams out, this will be interesting to see how long it is before the WDFW releases info about this now "confirmed" wolf pack to the public. I also wonder how many more packs around the state they know about, but are not releasing the info to the public. :twocents:
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Thats awesome work.
Our own "prey testing" of the WDFW. I know damn good and well they know about some of these other packs but haven't realeased any info on them.
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I added the 3 pups to the official H-W Wolf tally, we are now at 92 wolves in Washington. The rancher told me they think there are more than 3 pups, but we will have to wait for more info to know exactly how many there are.
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Last I heard, wolves don't pay much attention to state lines. :dunno:
Agreed...I think you'd have a hard time convincing everyone of that though, especially the guys that don't think they can walk here from Canada or Idaho or Oregon. Apparently the only way is in a truck.
You seem to bring it up alot, lets play devils advocate. If WDFW or the USDFW were caught doing it what would happen to them, legally I mean? What could happen? What if another NGO were caught?
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A buddy and i saw a wolf 4 years ago on the north side of Mt. Adams. We were just west of the crest trail, between Killen Creek and Muddy Meadows. Gauranteed wolf sighting. No if ands or buts! Other members in our hunting party saw the tracks as well. Also, most wont believe me but there have been sightings of wolves in SE Pierce county. Very worthy and trusted source. Not the kind of guy to BS. Rumor has it a land owner has killed one in the last year or so. Supposedly it was turned over to WDFW.
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GMU 124 - Mt Spokane - 1 or more - Several people report sightings south of Newport
Any specific locations south of Newport that seem to be hotspots? I spend a lot of time in the Spring Valley area just south of Newport and along the Idaho border - haven't personally seen any wolves but have been seeing track and scat the past couple seasons(most recently this past turkey season). Coincidentally, I've also been seeing a lot more elk in the area as well. Interesting ....
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This last winter, a Warden was working with a hound guy, reportedly using hounds to locate wolves, then using a weapon similar to a dart gun that instead of injecting something, actually pinched off some DNA and falls to the ground. They used snow machines to access the areas west and south of Kentry Ridge. I saw them park there and unload many times, but never stopped and bothered them, but others did, and this second hand info is what was passed on to me. The hound guy is local, Bearpaw, you may know him, not sure, but he lives off Breckinridge road. Several people around here saw as many as 5 wolves together in the lands from Orin/Rice to Addy/Gifford. A few of the folks called in and the old story of hybrids on the loose was once again WDFWs response. Wife and I saw a lone wolf off Beck road 3 winters ago, and there was no doubt about what it was......upon talking with a neighbor, he was stunned, as he heard of similar sightings in the same area from 3 other neighbors.
I could go on, but apparent lack of honesty by local wardens makes me wonder if they will/can ever acknowledge true numbers and locations.......there is an agenda here, just havent quite figured out what it is. Russ
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Some buddies of mine swear they saw one a few years back on the border of Nile and bumping units.
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This last winter, a Warden was working with a hound guy, reportedly using hounds to locate wolves, then using a weapon similar to a dart gun that instead of injecting something, actually pinched off some DNA and falls to the ground. They used snow machines to access the areas west and south of Kentry Ridge. I saw them park there and unload many times, but never stopped and bothered them, but others did, and this second hand info is what was passed on to me. The hound guy is local, Bearpaw, you may know him, not sure, but he lives off Breckinridge road. Several people around here saw as many as 5 wolves together in the lands from Orin/Rice to Addy/Gifford. A few of the folks called in and the old story of hybrids on the loose was once again WDFWs response. Wife and I saw a lone wolf off Beck road 3 winters ago, and there was no doubt about what it was......upon talking with a neighbor, he was stunned, as he heard of similar sightings in the same area from 3 other neighbors.
I could go on, but apparent lack of honesty by local wardens makes me wonder if they will/can ever acknowledge true numbers and locations.......there is an agenda here, just havent quite figured out what it is. Russ
Russ thanks for your post, I have been hoping others would step forward to report some of these wolves in Huckleberry and other areas. I know exactly which dogger has been collecting dna for WDFW, but to my knowledge he is only collecting cougar dna from treed cougar for an ongoing cougar study. But there are many reports of these wolves in Huckleberry. According to neighbors, there were several wolf hybrids turned loose by a private party in the Kentry area, but there was also a full blooded wolf hit on the HWY near Nine Mile, so in my honest opinion I think we have both hybrids and wild wolves in Huckleberry. I think it's more likely that sightings in the south end of the county are wild wolves, I think the hybrids have stayed pretty close to their home place on the orin-rice road as neighbors in the area still have been seeing them fairly regularly. We as well as others have seen tracks near Monumental, Kentry, and Summit Valley. Numerous other people have reported tracks and sightings near Hunters, Fruitland, Springdale, and Nine Mile.
If you know others who have seen wolves, please encourage them to post their sightings on here, or perhaps you can do it for them. Only by drawing attention to these wolves can we hope that WDFW will eventually confirm them.
Thanks, Dale
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I did forget to mention that they said they were collecting cougar dna, which in itsself seemed a bit odd, even more so since they were parking adjacent to one of the fields the wolves had been seen running across a mere couple of days before. R
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I posted this in a topic below but I'll put it in here for use to make sure..... This was a few years ago in 368 Cowichie below Eagle's Nest..... Dad and I were on a side hill eating lunch and taking a nap in the sun.... For some reason I woke up and saw an all black yote below us on a game trail.... I woke Dad up and he got ready for the shot.... At 150 yds it stopped with it's front feet on a log staring into the timber... Told Dad the range and pick my binocs up for the shot.... Right before Dad was gonna let one go I told him not to shoot.... That wasn't a coyote.... It was at least twice the size of a yote, huge head, and all black.... As we were discussing what we just saw it couldn't have been more then a couple minutes after the wolf went into the thick timber.... Elk bust out of the timber in all directions..... I got lucky and shot a spike from the herd..... When we got down to the game trail the wolf was on it's tracks were huge..... Nothing like a little yote track..... And in all the yotes I've seen and shot I've never seen an all black yote..... This was ML elk season.... We have no pics or proof..... Forgot my camera at camp.... But I swear that wasn't a coyote!!!! Wild dog????? Very unlikely IMO!!!!
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Found members most likely of the Lookout pack this winter (roughly March) in the Alta unit near the Golden Doe wildlife refuge. We had a friend hiking with us with a jack russel terrier and the wolf started howling in the fog. The fog cleared and about 200 yards away up on the ridgeline was a single wolf. We took pictures and video through the spotting scope.
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Link to video on youtube: http://youtu.be/LN3Du87aehY (http://youtu.be/LN3Du87aehY)
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I have also heard from a reliable resource of two other wolf sightings: one near the southwestern portion of the Loop Highway (Lower Beaver Creek area) this winter. Two adults.
Last winter I heard another sighting on the North Shore of Lake Chelan across from the state park near 25 mile. The individual was using a spotting scope to look at deer when he spotted a single wolf. So I suppose this is the Manson GMU.
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Found members most likely of the Lookout pack this winter (roughly March) in the Alta unit near the Golden Doe wildlife refuge. We had a friend hiking with us with a jack russel terrier and the wolf started howling in the fog. The fog cleared and about 200 yards away up on the ridgeline was a single wolf. We took pictures and video through the spotting scope.
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I have also heard from a reliable resource of two other wolf sightings: one near the southwestern portion of the Loop Highway (Lower Beaver Creek area) this winter. Two adults.
Last winter I heard another sighting on the North Shore of Lake Chelan across from the state park near 25 mile. The individual was using a spotting scope to look at deer when he spotted a single wolf. So I suppose this is the Manson GMU.
just think about the ones no one seen yet ...that looks like a big one too !!! heard one howling up Twisp River road ...around North Cr ....
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Nile... up by Clover Springs, windy ridge, just after the trail to Flat Iron lake. Never saw any but followed tracks for a bit. 2009
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2010, GMU 335 Taneum, up on Elk Heights... both heard 3+ and saw two at about 300 yards...didnt have big eyes so no positive ID but too big and dark for 'yotes. They were running along the canyon heading into the timber like they were chasing something.
I was up there Scouting for Turkey...since 2008 i have watched the Turkey population plummet. This year in a long weekend I found NO turkeys, just some isolated bunches of scattered feathers in the woods.
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Nooksack GMU 418, walked in an old loggin road about 3-4 miles... heard howls... late evening. On way out found this right next to my boot track I made on the way in. I'll just say it was down a very well hunted gatedx road, about 3-4 miles past the gate, which is way past the main line gate. "Tree farm".
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After a lengthy conversation with a biologist about wolves in the Nooksack a member here sent me these 2 pics taken in the Nooksack... Biologist says they are "hybrids"....
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After a lengthy conversation with a biologist about wolves in the Nooksack a member here sent me these 2 pics taken in the Nooksack... Biologist says they are "hybrids"....
Glad to see that someone else has either seen or come across tracks of wolves in the nooksack .. I used to hunt up on Baldy religiously and seen tracks all the time ... Mainly coming in from Grandy side ....obvisiously this picture is on the nooksack ......
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Plus there has been sightings on Washington Pass So how many more have not been discovered !!!!
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Does not matter if they are hybrids they are still dangerous and more so to people ....
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Found members most likely of the Lookout pack this winter (roughly March) in the Alta unit near the Golden Doe wildlife refuge. We had a friend hiking with us with a jack russel terrier and the wolf started howling in the fog. The fog cleared and about 200 yards away up on the ridgeline was a single wolf. We took pictures and video through the spotting scope.
Amazing pics hirshey, thank you for sharing!
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Plus there has been sightings on Washington Pass So how many more have not been discovered !!!!
My buddy has seen 2 there, 2 years ago. It was just west of the pass.
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GMU 516 Goat Rocks Wilderness---Goat Ridge close to Goat lake
November 10, 2010
I saw 1 wolf at 30 yrds dark grey in color but there were 2 sets of tracks all over chasing elk. I have a pic of the carcass they were eating on when I jumped them. The one I saw appeared to be a female. The tracks were not as big as I expected but were larger than coyote.
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I saw 1 last October, area 204 about 2 1/2 miles up FS-30 rd, OUT OF AENEAS Valley
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6 years ago in unit 111 i saw a big white one just east of smackout pass on the Ione side.
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My opinion on hybrids.... to be adressed in a message to the commission.
WDFW appears to be dismissing sightings of supposed wolf hybrids in Washington as less important than wolves and failing to take action on these sightings. WDFW should be more concerned about hybrids than wolves, the issue of hybrids is even more critical than the issue of wolves in Washington. Hybrids need to be confirmed as either being hybrids or as wild wolves and control efforts must be implemented as soon as possible for many reasons.
1. Hybrids are likely to inbreed and polute the genetic integrity of wild gray wolves.
2. Hybrids must eat and are more likely to be poor hunters, frequenting human inhabited areas for food endangering pets, livestock, and humans.
3. Many of these hybrids may be wild gray wolves resulting in a much higher gray wolf population in Washington.
4. Hybrids threaten the integrity of wolf recovery in its entirety.
5. Hybrids for all these reasons should be a priority control effort.
6. Management of Hybrids for all these reasons should be a priority item in the Washington Wolf Plan.
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My opinion on hybrids.... to be adressed in a message to the commission.
WDFW appears to be dismissing sightings of supposed wolf hybrids in Washington as less important than wolves and failing to take action on these sightings. WDFW should be more concerned about hybrids than wolves, the issue of hybrids is even more critical than the issue of wolves in Washington. Hybrids need to be confirmed as either being hybrids or as wild wolves and control efforts must be implemented as soon as possible for many reasons.
1. Hybrids are likely to inbreed and polute the genetic integrity of wild gray wolves.
2. Hybrids must eat and are more likely to be poor hunters, frequenting human inhabited areas for food endangering pets, livestock, and humans.
3. Many of these hybrids may be wild gray wolves resulting in a much higher gray wolf population in Washington.
4. Hybrids threaten the integrity of wolf recovery in its entirety.
5. Hybrids for all these reasons should be a priority control effort.
6. Management of Hybrids for all these reasons should be a priority item in the Washington Wolf Plan.
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Thanks to everyone for your participation, we are collecting some good information here that is attracting attention, please remember to indicate:
1. Approximate Date
2. What you saw
3. How many wolves (minimum and maximum)
4. Which GMU
5. Local area of your sighting
6. Attach pictures of tracks, scat, or of wolves whenever possible
Thanks Again, Dale :hello:
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Yesterday. Cook's Mountain in GMU 113 (a bit south of Cee-Cee-Ah). Didn't see wolves, but while hiking came across a full grown cow moose that had met a very untimely and very violent death. Ripped apart and torn to pieces. Again, didn't see any wolves but thought it would be worth mentioning in this thread
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Wow, I was just starting to consider moving back to WA... thanks for reminding me what the libs really want to accomplish up there :hello:
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Man, just decided to peek in the wolf forum to see how bad the rhetoric had gotten since you moved it all from the general area. Good to see that it has calmed down and become a bit more sensible instead of bash-based.
I have one report from this spring bear hunting in Lick Creek GMU 175 but no photo to back it up. I didn't think about the need to document it at the time because I had just accepted that there were wolves in the Blues, but maybe that's still necessary; I'll do better for you next time; I suppose I'm jaded to wolves after seeing the devastation in Idaho first-hand.
I followed a single very fresh wolf track in the snow on approx. May 20, 2011. It walked down Donaldson Gulch (4206 Road) for about a mile and continued down Charlie Creek past where the road has been torn out by the state. It stayed in the bottom of the creek on the torn out road bed for about a mile, but I lost its tracks when it got to where the snow had melted. The track was approximately 4.5" long at the pad without counting the nails. The animal was at a trot the entire way.
I slept out in the woods about 7 nights in the area over spring bear season but never heard a wolf howl.
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My opinion on hybrids.... to be adressed in a message to the commission.
WDFW appears to be dismissing sightings of supposed wolf hybrids in Washington as less important than wolves and failing to take action on these sightings. WDFW should be more concerned about hybrids than wolves, the issue of hybrids is even more critical than the issue of wolves in Washington. Hybrids need to be confirmed as either being hybrids or as wild wolves and control efforts must be implemented as soon as possible for many reasons.
1. Hybrids are likely to inbreed and polute the genetic integrity of wild gray wolves.
2. Hybrids must eat and are more likely to be poor hunters, frequenting human inhabited areas for food endangering pets, livestock, and humans.
3. Many of these hybrids may be wild gray wolves resulting in a much higher gray wolf population in Washington.
4. Hybrids threaten the integrity of wolf recovery in its entirety.
5. Hybrids for all these reasons should be a priority control effort.
6. Management of Hybrids for all these reasons should be a priority item in the Washington Wolf Plan.
If they are hybrids in the biologist's opinion... is it an unmanaged game species (seeing as it is not a grey wolf) and can they then be hunted?
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My opinion on hybrids.... to be adressed in a message to the commission.
WDFW appears to be dismissing sightings of supposed wolf hybrids in Washington as less important than wolves and failing to take action on these sightings. WDFW should be more concerned about hybrids than wolves, the issue of hybrids is even more critical than the issue of wolves in Washington. Hybrids need to be confirmed as either being hybrids or as wild wolves and control efforts must be implemented as soon as possible for many reasons.
1. Hybrids are likely to inbreed and polute the genetic integrity of wild gray wolves.
2. Hybrids must eat and are more likely to be poor hunters, frequenting human inhabited areas for food endangering pets, livestock, and humans.
3. Many of these hybrids may be wild gray wolves resulting in a much higher gray wolf population in Washington.
4. Hybrids threaten the integrity of wolf recovery in its entirety.
5. Hybrids for all these reasons should be a priority control effort.
6. Management of Hybrids for all these reasons should be a priority item in the Washington Wolf Plan.
If they are hybrids in the biologist's opinion... is it an unmanaged game species (seeing as it is not a grey wolf) and can they then be hunted?
they would be the same as feral or free roaming dogs so fall under that category, which is not a game species, but can be considered a threat in rural areas the normal protocol is to shoot them if they are harassing livestock or wildlife on your property dumped dogs are always a huge problem in the woods hybrids are no different since most would have originally been dumped by people ill equipped to own exotic/wild animals.
as for sightings I heard what I believe was 2 distinct wolves howling...this was back in 1997-1998 when I spoke with a person I knew at the forest service office they said off the record yes I probably did hear wolves as they were sighted in the area I was in. Since I still dont know gmu's without several maps and the regs in front of me I was in the Salmon la Sac area hiking....this is outside Cle Elum roughly
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One more that was not first hand but intrigued me, my guess is it was wolf hybrids either dumped or running loose.
The capitol forest across from the Chehalis reservation 2 years ago, I ran into a couple who were out riding quads I was out bear hunting and we got to chatting. They were telling me about a spot they had seen a bear while riding and for whatever reason the topic turned to wolves, the gal raised siberian huskies so knows the difference and they had no reason to make up some story as far as I could tell. She said she saw a light grey and a black what she believed were wolves and they approached them trying to get close enough to see for certain, the canines caught wind of them and took off, she said she went down to where they saw the canines and there were tracks .... being a rural area near a urban area its really unlikely these were wild wolves but the possibility is there that hybrids are in these areas... something some people neglect to think about.
Washington banned the ownership of purebred wolves, when they were really trendy, all those wolves were not removed the breeders simply advertised them as hybrids...there were breeders of these dogs in much of the Cascade foothills, darrington area had a breeder, I believe eatonville had a breeder there were a couple more I recall that pre ban were selling purebred timber wolves as pets and post ban they were selling "hybrid" timber wolves :dunno: just something to think about.
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If this has already been said sorry for repeating but wolves in the blues are a known fact. They have documented individuals from the wenaha pack from oregon moving back and forth on a regular basis. Great post and thanks for all the hard work bearpaw! Justin
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Dale,
Don't know how far you want to go back but my father and I actaully took pictures of two wolves in the Little Naches 346 area off of the 1902 road in 1996. We came around a corner and this wolf was in the middle of the road. I got out a little throw away camera that we had and took several photos of the wolf. I think it was a male but not for sure, it was all black and was actually very cool looking. I think it was about a week later we again saw a wolf in roughly the same spot but this one was a light to darkish grey. Not one doubt in my mind that these were wolves. We never really showed anyone the pictures, But we did ask others in the area if they had seen any wolves. Turns out no one had seen them besides us that we know of. Now the bad part, in 1998 my parents house burnt to the ground completely and the pictures were inside so I have no proof.
I have hunted this are pretty much ever season since seeing these wolves and I go into places that I know not many do, but have not seen a track, heard a howl, or seen another one since then..
RTSPRING
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418 Nooksack Near the town of Sedro Woolley Late buck hunt M rifle I think 06... Tired to look it up on WDFW but on their reporting tool it doesn't say when my last year of M Rifle was... Bull Elk were fighting and cows were chirping... After the bulls were done i bugled at the big 6x6 just for fun, then tried sneeking on him. All got very quite as the fog drifted. I took a shot at one of the 4 thinking it was a coyote.. Pissed that i missed i used my reed call to make a yelping sound... Then a real coyote, 1/3 the size and tan as opposed to grey, popped out at 20yrds from me.. I missed it too.. Got me thinking... The wolves were obviously following the sound of the fighting bulls and the chirping of cows... and the Coyote was following the wolves..
On a side note, I find it VERY distasteful that the Bio can Surmise that the wolves were hybrids. If he can tell from those pics then they should accept photo evidence... That statement by the bio fuels my distrust of the state on this issue.
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my father in law and a co worker saw 2 in winthrop last sept. while bowhunting if you want more details pm me and will get it for you.
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last year around Nov. 17 or 18th I was hunting with a buddy in east okanogan unit. walked in about a mile to a clearing on hull mt. before daylight. on the way in I noted a large number of coyote tracks and a couple large tracks that looked like a big dogs. At daybreak the coyotes started to bark and howl like I have never heard before. They were obviously very agitated and this went on for thirty minutes or more. My buddy was hunting about half a mile from where I was and he decided to move in on all the activity. when he got close he spotted three wolves circling each other the coyotes had them surrounded but at a distance and were harassing them. My buddy said he wasn't sure the three were wolves but they were two to three times the size of the coyotes and looked like large coyotes in color. we never reported this because we just aren't sure. I've seen many wolves in the wild in BC and Alberta but I didn't see these myself.
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Thanks everyone for your additional reports, every single additional report helps substantiate wolves are in an area even if someone else may have already reported them.
The goal is to document as many sightings as we can, please keep them coming. In some cases it is hard to know if your report is of the same wolves that someone else has already spotted and I am trying to make a sincere effort to not double count any wolves. But every single report will add additional support that wolves have been spotted in a GMU.
THANKS TO EVERYONE....
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Might be the wrong place, but I broguth up wolves last night at the WDFW public meeting with the region 4 wildlife program manager. Thought he'd cut me off and just say there are none in this region. To my surprise he told me that yes they are there... specifically the Nooksack which I brought up. He also said they are actively trying to trap and get DNA, or maybe I misunderstood, that they have trapped and gotten DNA. He said he thinks they have migrated in from the north, which I agree with. He asked my opinion on the wolf plan... 15 inutes later I was done with my concerns over "MANAGEMENT", and my feelings that even if the WDFW comes up with a good management plan that the Conservation NW and other groups will use the courts to stop any valid management of the wolf in our State, most likely producing the devestation to our elk and deer herds that we have witnessed in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming. He nodded a lot and didn't seem surprised by my comments... When I brought up the pictures of the wolves I had sent in to the department in the past, he smiled and said yep.... I aksed him how many wolves we had in that area, and he was non-commital, just that they were actively working that issue. I asked if they were close to declaring that a "breeding pair/pack" and he went into the whole what it takes to be a "breeding pair", of which I told him I was very familiar with. I will say I was impressed with his honesty and willingness to discuss this topic, instead of what most of us have run into in the past on the wolf issue.
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Wow. That's a confirmation.
I'm impressed by the documentation listed here by so many hunters.
As a hunter from the Kitsap Peninsula, I am more and more convinced that we will soon be seeing wolves in the Olympics. I hunt in Eastern WA in the fall and have hunted & scouted in the Blues before, but never seen tracks. This fall I'll definitely be more observant and mindful to take pics of anything I see.
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I have had 3 sightings on our ranch. I assume that this is part of the Smackout Pack. The 1st was 8 July, 2nd on 10 August and the 3rd yesterday. All have appeared to be a large male less than 80 yards from the back of the ranch house on a small hill top in partially wooded area. Tracks found yesterady were quite large and the wolf appeared to be very healthy. He was obviously aware that I was present on the 10th August sighting and we just stood there eye balling each other for up to 2 minutes before he turned and trotted off. I have some concerns here as I have 5 labs on the ranch. Although they are fenced in close to the ranch house, I wonder about the howling back and forth between the labs and the wolves. A rancher some 4 miles down Hwy 20 reported to me a loss of a calf this spring. He initially thought this was a coyote kill. But now I wonder if maybe it was a wolf. The frequency of sightings appears to be increasing. Doc Rick Calef
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this info from:
JKEEN33
Saw my first wolf in 204
« on: Yesterday at 09:09:48 PM »
Was out driving around before the opener and turned a corner just in time to bust its stalk. Had a doe about 30 feet away. It ran straight up the hill and out of sight faster than I have seen anything move. Ran into border patrol about 20 minutes later and they said they have been seeing them and hearing them for a while now.
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I have had 3 sightings on our ranch. I assume that this is part of the Smackout Pack. The 1st was 8 July, 2nd on 10 August and the 3rd yesterday. All have appeared to be a large male less than 80 yards from the back of the ranch house on a small hill top in partially wooded area. Tracks found yesterady were quite large and the wolf appeared to be very healthy. He was obviously aware that I was present on the 10th August sighting and we just stood there eye balling each other for up to 2 minutes before he turned and trotted off. I have some concerns here as I have 5 labs on the ranch. Although they are fenced in close to the ranch house, I wonder about the howling back and forth between the labs and the wolves. A rancher some 4 miles down Hwy 20 reported to me a loss of a calf this spring. He initially thought this was a coyote kill. But now I wonder if maybe it was a wolf. The frequency of sightings appears to be increasing. Doc Rick Calef
Thanks for your post Doc.
We have been monitoring the Smackout pack for the last two winters. The tracks we have seen indicated 2 wolves preferred the Ione side and 4 to 5 wolves preferred the Smackout meadows and Paradise Road area in the winter months. Numerous other people have seen 1 or 2 wolves and there is at least 1 trailcam photo of a wolf a couple miles from Smackout Meadows. From what I have been told it sounds like the confirmed Smackout pack consists of likely two adults and 3 or more pups. This leaves numerous adults unaccounted for that I know are here somewhere. The way that wolves have been documented to travel it is very likely your wolves are part of the wolves that were around Smackout last winter.
You probably saw my post regarding my neighbor (on Dominion Loop Rd) who had 5 wolves attacking his German Shepherds in broad daylight. The neighbor was convinced that they were wolves and they were trying to kill his german shepherds so he ran for a gun which he fired in the air and stopped the attack. I have not seen that WDFW has made any public comment about the incident.
From the comments of ranchers in other states I would say the GMU 111 wolves are studying domestic animals for possible prey. Most ranchers report numerous sightings before an attack ever occurs because the wolves watch and learn about new prey before they attack. Then they begin making encounters which eventually leads to actual attacks. A wolf has been spotted this summer walking amoungst the cattle in Smackout Meadows.
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Hunterfisher, thanks for post. Cool capture pics. Are you sure its Southwest of tonasket. wow its spread so fast in less two years. Hope WDFW start work on trap a wolf soon. Very interesting....
Mulehunter. :tup:
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i have a trailcam pic of one in the teanaway from about 3 weeks ago. I posted it in another thread. :bash:
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i have a trailcam pic of one in the teanaway from about 3 weeks ago. I posted it in another thread. :bash:
did WDFW responsed your question. how many pups in her pack.
mulehunter
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I heard through the grapevine that WDFW was in GMU 105 trying to trap wolves last week. Glad to hear this, last year there were pups sighted by many people around Northport in this unit, not sure where that pack is at right now, I did not see their tracks last winter, but I am told they are still there and I hope WDFW finds them, it is critical that these packs are confirmed. I also hope there is a plan to put more people on the payroll to get this done. :twocents:
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i have a trailcam pic of one in the teanaway from about 3 weeks ago. I posted it in another thread. :bash:
did WDFW responsed your question. how many pups in her pack.
mulehunter
I emailed my picture to a guy at wdfw and haven't heard back so I am not sure what is going on... :dunno:
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glad to hear you turned in the sighting.... :tup:
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Really frightening encounter South of Rennie Peak... I overnighted Sunday and was on a solo trip into the Lake Chelan Rec Area...glassed all day in anticipation of the high hunt opener on Thursday and found no deer... at 1 PM I spotted a dead head 4x5 in the bottom of the draw.... found nothing else to look at so finally at about 4 PM I decided to go check it out... had a pretty good rock and a clump of red grass to use as reference when I got down there. I got down in elevation and through the trees... there was my rock and clump of grass, but where was the dead head? I walked around the rock to find a den :yike:... there was old decaying hide outside it (I never did get to see the dead head up close) and I started to back away when I was startled to see a pair of VERY unhappy wolves about 40 yards from me. Very tense times! After much todo, I got back up the ridge realizing I left my spotting scope up top and that nobody would believe me without photos so I went back to get it and took a few quick photos through the spotting scope as they checked their den I will post later. The wolves (I only always saw 2 at one time but at one point there was one above me and 20 seconds later 2 below me) escorted me about a mile out of the area. I hiked 7+ grueling and tiring miles out this evening partially in need of my headlamp. Heads up to anyone planning on hunting that area for the high hunt... I'd suggest finding another place due to a low deer-to-wolf ratio. :twocents: I'll be talking to the bios tomorrow about this encounter... none of the wolves were collared, so follow-up to come.
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:tup: On getting the pics. I'm looking forward to seeing them and hearing what the State will have to say. Hopefully they get their butts in there and document this pack/breeding pair, instead of dragging their feet and blowing it off for as long as they can.
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I'm having difficulty winding down after this one... so here's the photos:
The dead-head that started it all:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-frc1%2F304775_10100561156020738_227126098_n.jpg&hash=388d5008e1f795876be33c8ea74df577)
Wolf photo #1 (note the deadhead's position and how it is now gone in photo #2... this is when I got back up the hill)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash4%2F321365_10100561156065648_398008664_n.jpg&hash=bf17c93420deaab9b2bf11d816040833)
Wolf photo #2
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Looking down from the ridge after the fact... I was there since 8 AM and never saw them until I dropped in elevation.. their den is on the side of that large rock:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-snc7%2F312350_10100561156245288_922192416_n.jpg&hash=c67f090e4a563ff8259b88f705023b5b)
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Good job!
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Holy cow...hirsheygirl, that is wild. I honestly think you dodged a big bullet there. In my opinion there are twice the wolves we think there are and in areas we wouldn't think they were in. Good info and pics. Be safe.
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wow!
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hirshey can you verify which GMU, was it 244 Clark?
This is significant as this sighting may end up qualifying as another breeding pair and the fact that a den is located so high in the backcountry is testament that the Washington wolf population could exceed the 104 wolves documented in this topic.
Thanks hirshey for doing such a great job of documenting your find. :tup:
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1. Approximate Date: September 2009
2. What you saw: Two definite sets of adult wolf tracks, and 3 sets of smaller tracks (could have possibly been coyote, but were with the much larger tracks)
3. How many wolves (minimum and maximum): 2 minimum, 5 maximum
4. Which GMU: GMU 113
5. Local area of your sighting: Heading up on an OLDDD road towards the face of hook nose mountain. Off of the Boundary Dam road.
6. Attach pictures of tracks, scat, or of wolves whenever possible: Did not have camera with me at time, Tracks were most definitely wolves, not a doubt in my mind.
Bearpaw, was talking with a local guy the other day and he had mentioned his dad saw one large wolf in the smackout meadows this summer, Sounded like the wolf had no care in the world that he was sitting there being watched.
Really wish we could get some M67's and throw into the den's while these worthless animals are in them.. Good ole frag grenade would take care of the problem real fast like.
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hirshey can you verify which GMU, was it 244 Clark?
This is significant as this sighting may end up qualifying as another breeding pair and the fact that a den is located so high in the backcountry is testament that the Washington wolf population could exceed the 104 wolves documented in this topic.
Thanks hirshey for doing such a great job of documenting your find. :tup:
I think it must have been the Clark GMU... the area description for some reason in the regs makes it sound like the Lake Chelan Recreation Area is not included in this GMU but it was south/southwest of Rennie and Reynolds Peak that I had the encounter which seems to be in that GMU on the Deer map. I have GPS coordinates from where I spotted the dead head from so hopefully a biologist/someone qualified of confirming their presence with the state can view them from a safe distance where they may not be so aggressive.
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10thmountainarcher thanks for your post. If you were near Hooknose Mountain that is west of the PO river and in GMU 111.
This is interesting, there no doubt at least 6 adult wolves in 111 and probably at least 7, we saw their tracks repeatedly last winter. A group of 4 to 5, and a group of two. So far this summer WDFW has documented the Smackout Pack, at least two adults and 3 pups. That means there are at least 4 or 5 other adult wolves running around somewhere. There have had additional reports of a group of 5 wolves attacking 2 german shepherds near Colville, wolves in Rocky Creek, wolves in Meadow Creek, and now your sighting of numerous tracks near Hooknose Mtn. I have been told about numerous sightings in Smackout meadows, one sighting was a wolf amoungst the rancher's cattle. The rancher has had to repair fence several times this summer at Smackout Meadows where his cattle have ran through the fence, funny he has never had that problem occur so often before. I think the wolves are prey testing his cattle building up confidence to start attacking them. This is exactly the way wolves have reacted around cattle in other areas where predation eventually became a problem.
To add to your story, here is a photo of a dead cow moose I found near the eastside of Hooknose Mtn this spring. I could not find a definite reason why this moose died, so I never made much mention of it before, although I do have my suspitions, I saw no proof of what killed the moose.
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Holy cow...hirsheygirl, that is wild. I honestly think you dodged a big bullet there. In my opinion there are twice the wolves we think there are and in areas we wouldn't think they were in. Good info and pics. Be safe.
Thanks, I certainly did dodge a bullet. It was incredibly frightening and frustrating; if ANY other species in this state was acting as aggressively towards me as those wolves, I would have shot them: no hesitation. As it is, they are still healthy and happy documented wolves. It most definitely makes sense now why I didn't see a single live animal all morning in such a fantastic summer buck range. Now I have to scramble to find an new hunting location in the Rec Area or another open wilderness by Thursday. :'(
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hirshey can you verify which GMU, was it 244 Clark?
This is significant as this sighting may end up qualifying as another breeding pair and the fact that a den is located so high in the backcountry is testament that the Washington wolf population could exceed the 104 wolves documented in this topic.
Thanks hirshey for doing such a great job of documenting your find. :tup:
I think it must have been the Clark GMU... the area description for some reason in the regs makes it sound like the Lake Chelan Recreation Area is not included in this GMU but it was south/southwest of Rennie and Reynolds Peak that I had the encounter which seems to be in that GMU on the Deer map. I have GPS coordinates from where I spotted the dead head from so hopefully a biologist/someone qualified of confirming their presence with the state can view them from a safe distance where they may not be so aggressive.
I read through the unit desrcriptions and you are right, it is Clark GMU 244. Very glad to hear you have gps co-ordinates, photos, and a den, sounds like a slam dunk verified new wolf pack to me. Wolves do not den unless they are welping pups.
This is interesting: http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0212280/den.htm (http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0212280/den.htm)
Wolf’s Den
Before giving birth the mother has to find a den. Two main things that are really important for a den are: nearby water such as a stream, river, or a lake and a high or protected location in the pack’s territory. Some examples of a den are: deep hollow riverbank, cleft between rocks, hollow log, space under an upturned tree, and space under a rock overhang.
The basic layout of a den is one or two entrances about twenty to twenty-eight inches wide and fifteen to twenty inches high. A tunnel that can be as long as fifteen feet leads to the birthing chamber. The birthing chamber is three feet wide and two feet high.
Wolves would reuse their dens as generations go by. The Alpha Female decides if she wants to reuse the old den or if she wants to take the time and search for a new den.
Once a den in Jasper National Park was reused by wolves eight times in fifteen years. A den on Ellesmere Island may be even older, since bones dated back to 783 years old.
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Bearpaw, thank you for the correction, I have been out of the state for two years, and one year in Afghanistan has fried my brain temporarily. You are correct though it was west of of river making it 111, it was one of the old roads off the powerline, followed till it was kelly humped and hiked a good 4-5 miles back towards hooknose...
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Bearpaw, thank you for the correction, I have been out of the state for two years, and one year in Afghanistan has fried my brain temporarily. You are correct though it was west of of river making it 111, it was one of the old roads off the powerline, followed till it was kelly humped and hiked a good 4-5 miles back towards hooknose...
That's near where I found the dead moose.
Also thanks for your service in Aphganistan... :tup:
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Hirshey, It will be interesting what the bio has to say. I don't think it will be anything they don't already know though.
http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2010/feb/27/is-there-a-new-pack-of-wolves-near-lake-chelan/ (http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2010/feb/27/is-there-a-new-pack-of-wolves-near-lake-chelan/)
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Thanks for the link Lowedog, I had not seen that story before.
Looks like they have photos and den location of the Chelan Pack now.... :chuckle:
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http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,83161.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,83161.0.html)
collared female and three pups north of ellensburg
i am related to a large sheep ranching family based out of Moxee, Wa. We will just call them M-livestock for now... during the summer months they lease land which they send large bands of sheep onto accompanied by sheep herders. just recently one of their herders and his sheep dogs had an experience with a collared female and 3 pups north of Ellensburg around bluet pass. i dont want to say to much, but my uncle just spent 4 hours this weekend filming with king5 news. i believe it is suppose to air Wednesday.... the wolfs only got a hold of one of the sheep dogs and i saw it last week. its doing okay just some stitches and a cone around its head, but it will be fine. all you westsiders tune in!
i think you ment blewett pass(on US 97) bluet pass is by mt baker.
your right sir! my bad...
http://sportsyakima.com/2011/09/close-encounter-with-teanaway-wolves/ (http://sportsyakima.com/2011/09/close-encounter-with-teanaway-wolves/)
YAKIMA, Wash. — It seems that the Martinez family sheep-herding operation has already encountered the Teanaway wolfpack, and a sheep was killed. But here’s the interesting kicker: The wolves apparently weren’t the ones who killed the ewe.
A cougar did.
The wolves did, however, very nearly kill a border collie that was trying to keep them away from the sheep’s carcass.
According to Mark Martinez, who oversees the northernmost grazing allotments of the Moxee-based Martinez sheep operation, this incident happened on Tuesday, Aug. 23, on a piece of private land that Martinez sheep have been grazing off and on since the 1940s.
The sheep were grazing in an area west of State Highway 97 just off Forest Road 9738, near a rise known as Red Top. The night before had been windy, apparently enough so that when the ewe was killed, the herder overseeing that band of sheep didn’t hear it and didn’t see the attack. Neither, apparently, did the Pyrenees guard dogs that are trained to protect the sheep from predators.
On that Tuesday, though, one of the herder’s Pyrenees guard dogs was watching over the carcass when four wolves — probably attracted by the scent of the kill — showed up and forced the dog away from its post. The noise of the confrontation brought one or more of the border collies, which then tried to chase the wolves away. The ruckus also brought the herder.
“The herder saw four wolves. One had a collar,” Martinez said.
(A note: State wildlife officers had captured and radio-collared the pack’s dominant female a month earlier.)
“(The herder) was pretty shook up,” Martinez said. “Even after the warning shot (the wolves) didn’t just disappear into the woods. They were kind of hesitant.”
The wolves were finally chased away, but not before badly injuring one of the border collies — badly enough, Martinez said, that the veterinarian told him if one of the bite wounds had been even a 16th-inch to one direction, the dog would have suffered excessive hemorrhaging and died.
State wildlife agents came to the site the next day and determined the ewe had been killed by a cougar, and Martinez said the state also offered to pick up the tab for the vet bill. But while the grazing season is almost over, Martinez is concerned his family’s sheep operation is in for a lot more troubles down the line.
“I’m hoping we don’t lose any stock,” Martinez said. “But that’s never the case when you’re out in the woods and there’s all sorts of wildlife that, once they acquire a taste for lamb or sheep, they’ve found a food source.
“And they’re going to continue to utilize that food source.”
– Scott Sandsberry
Previously the Teanaway pack was counted as 1 wolf (lactating female) this proves there are at least 4 wolves in the area, which brings the statewide count up to 107 wolves.
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we all are impressive with u hirshey. thank u for photo... I wish i have more time in wood.
mulehunter. :tup:
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Yep very impressive. Thanks for the pics and story. Be safe out there.
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I'm having difficulty winding down after this one... so here's the photos:
The dead-head that started it all:
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Wolf photo #1 (note the deadhead's position and how it is now gone in photo #2... this is when I got back up the hill)
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Wolf photo #2
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Looking down from the ridge after the fact... I was there since 8 AM and never saw them until I dropped in elevation.. their den is on the side of that large rock:
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Amazing story and photographs
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http://www.king5.com/news/Wolves-Visit-Blewett-Pass-Sheep-Bite-Herd-Dog-129767188.html (http://www.king5.com/news/Wolves-Visit-Blewett-Pass-Sheep-Bite-Herd-Dog-129767188.html)
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It will be interesting to see if they continue using that den or if they seek a new den because of your presence. When disturbed like that they may feel threatened (although it sounded like you were the one threatened) and move dens. Hopefully this isn't the case so the appropriate people needed to confirm this can key in on this location and observe from a distance. Good job on taking the photos and GPS locations!
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September 2nd, unit 215 about a mile south of blue lake in the sinlahekin wla, heard at least 4 howl at first light, could have been as many as 6. i've heard alot of coyotes howling/yipping and it didnt sound anything lime this. No barks or yips, just a long single howl and atleast 3 answers and then silence.
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I heard through the grapevine that WDFW moved their trapper to GMU 105 Kelly Hill has been trying to trap the wolves there. Glad to hear they are finally trying to document these wolves. We have seen the tracks in this unit, many other people have seen the wolves, including pups over the last two years. With so much emphasis on the wolf plan and the fact that so many wolves are still undocumented, we need more wolf trappers working for WDFW to get these packs documented. :twocents:
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Well I was up doing my best to get lost this weekend. Ran into a Border control officer who was up cleaning his truck and we stopped and talked to him. He has been here for about 3 months and has seen wolves on 2 differant occasions. Seeing as how he was raised in Colville and is here while he is getting some things straightened out at home. I call him a reliable source.
Then last night on the way back to the house on the other road . In the lead-in while you were on Private ground in your video with Michelle during her bear hunt. Between the cattle guard and the old trappers cabin I had "one" standing in the road.
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I know where you mean, what color was it?
I haven't heard if they caught any up there yet, and I'm not sure where they are trapping.
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Just returned from 2 weeks in unit 111 and saw wolves on multiple occasions.
Year and date - 8-12 Sept. 2011
GMU - 111
Local Area - Lower Smackout Meadow
How many - normally 3, but 4 on one occasion
Adults/Pups - 2 were clearly larger than the third, but the fourth was difficult to tell
Photos - none, only had cell phone and they were about 400 yds out
Why do I think wolves - "Holy s#@t. Those are wolves"
First sighting was the evening of 8 September when a couple from our group saw three black wolves feeding on a dead cow in the lower Smackout Meadow
Second sighting was the morning of 9 September (about 7 a.m.) when three of us (myself included) saw three black wolves running along the far edge of the lower Smackout Meadow. We watched them for a couple of minutes before the disappeared into the far trees.
Third sighting was the morning of 11 September (about 8 a.m.) when two members of our group saw 4 black wolves feeding on the dead cow.
There was a fourth sighting on 12 September but I don't remember the details. By then wolf sightings were becoming old hat ;)
Starting on 7 September and running through the morning of the 13th, we could hear them howling late into the evening and during the mornings. It is interesting (to me anyways) that these were the days leading up the full moon on the 12th, and after the morning of the 13th we didn't see them again and only heard them howling once in a while. The howling that we heard in those five days was crazy to listen to. We could hear the changes that seemed to go from locating to hunting, and even though we couldn't see them at that point we got a sense of what was going on. We could also hear the cattle mooing during a lot of this, and you could hear the change in their panic level as well. Pretty creepy. There was a certain comfort in the morning though, because when I was sitting in the dark it was nice to hear the howling and barking just to know that they weren't in my immediate vicinity.
Also, on the morning of the 13th as we drove past the lower meadow we saw 5 deer (3 does and two young ones) pause at the far edge of the meadow as we drove by, and then sprinted across the meadow directly at us. Although we never actually saw anything chasing them, it seemed strange that they would sprint toward a moving vehicle rather thatn stay near the tree line that was almost 600 yds from us.
So that's my report. I have to admit - they are beautiful creatures to see in the wild.
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Great report Croix.... thanks by
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Ran into 4 bow hunters today and they swear they saw a wolf near Beaver Canyon near Chesaw yesterday. No pictures, just a sighting. It's probably the one/ones I saw and was told about from the ranchers I know over there.
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i saw multiple tracks up at lookout mt no sightings just tracks
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great job reporting wolf info guys, remember to include the GMU if possible.... :tup:
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Hey, not really sure what info it good info, but a buddy and I were bear hunting southeast of Devil's Tailbone in GMU 175 on Friday, Sept 23. We were using a digital caller hoping to get lucky and about 200yds away, a grey wolf came out of the tree line. It was too dry to get tracks, and only one wolf was seen. We were approx 500 yds from our campsite that was a large open gravel pit for camping. After I stood up to get a better look, the wolf walked into the valley and was gone. Later that night we heard howling, but couldn't determine if it was a coyote or wolf.......hope that helps
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I took this pic 9/18/2011 about a 1/4 mile from Snow lake on Cold water trail 211 (boundary trail for the 522 and 524 GMU's). It had been raining all day and there were no human tracks. :dunno:
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Last year ran into a lone dog up in sherman pass. Didn't seem that big, i guess the way people talk about them i expected them to be bigger. That would be GMU 101
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Found some old wolf s h i t on Mica. I talked to the checkpoint guy for IEP and asked if he knew if there were wolves there or not. He said yes, in fact he listened to them howling a couple days earlier, and a hunter had seen one cross the road about 1/4 above the checkpoint. I though that was interesting. Someone else who owns a cabin on the Idaho side of that had seen 3.
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My father and I were hunting in GMU 673 for elk back in 1994 on opening day of modern fire arm season. We walked down an old spur road and were standing at the end of the road on the edge of the timber. After about 30 minutes of standing in the poaring down rain we saw a Cyotee step out onto the spur road and zig zag back and fourth across the spur road smelling our tracks. We thought about shooting it, but it was opening day. We did not want to spook anything around the area, as we knew there was a large elk herd there. About 1 hour after we saw the Cyotee, we looked over and saw a very large grey wolf standing broadside looking at us. He was clearly a wolf, as he was less than 30 yards from us. We both said "holy *censored*! what is that? is that a wolf?" The wolf stood standing looking at us, as if he or she had never encoutered a human being before. He then trouted off up the spur road smelling our tracks like the Cyotee did an hour prior. We were all the way up in the H Line in the Nemah area. Later that night we went to the local tavern in Naselle. We mentioned the sighting to a couple of local loggers, whom confirmed they had seen wolves in the Nemah and Naselle areas over the years. We spoke with a few other locals and they said we saw a Cyotee or were full of *censored*. Now 20 years later; it is a known thing that wolves are in the Nemah and Naselle area. Some claim they have always been there, others claim the game department has been planting them there for years.
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:yeah: Wow, I don't know what you saw. Wolves know how to walk a long ways. They haven't been planting wolves anywhere in Washington, ever.
You could have seen a wolf on a walk about from Canada, a huge coyote, a big hybrid or a huge dog like an Anatolian Shepard.
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Well you shouldn't beleive everything the game department tells you. I guarentee they have at least attempted to plant wolves in Washington. You can tell me that the wolves in central WA, which are known packs (confimed) just migrated down from Canada or came over from Idaho. That is a long haul. Your trying to tell me that they ran out of animals to eat in Canada and Idaho, so they said to themselves "hey, lets go to WA" "I heard they have lots of food there". C'mon! I beleive that some of the wolves have probably been here for decades upon decades and are now making a come back. I also beleive the game department has planted a few of them. I also beleive that we live in a state of tree huggers, who probably got access to some wolves and planted them themselves. I also beleive that some did come in from Canada and Idaho, but I'm not sold on that all of them just started to make a come back with out the help of somebody or some organization. That would be being naive! Like the game department is going to announce they are planting wolves. Cmon! They can't win regardless. A topic of that sensitivity is not going to have the game department on one side or the other. They will simply play neutral and play dumb and tell everyone what they want to hear to keep them happy.
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Maximus i think knockerof rocks is yankn your chain a little because of what has been said by the game department dude, i dont know if you get on this site very often but there are alot of wolf topics now, the ones by bearpaw are great reads...... oh and just remember theyare not wolves they are big coyotes that way it is legal to kill them year around :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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The Department of Fish and Wildlife would not be planting wolves. No way. I don't believe it. Some private whacko wolf lover groups, maybe. But not the WDFW, whose jobs depend on hunting license fees. I don't think they want the wolves here anymore than we do.
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The Department of Fish and Wildlife would not be planting wolves. No way. I don't believe it. Some private whacko wolf lover groups, maybe. But not the WDFW, whose jobs depend on hunting license fees. I don't think they want the wolves here anymore than we do.
The game department as a whole might not want wolves here but I bet there are quite a few WDFW biologists and bureaucrats that do.....
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Have a retired pastor staying at the Lodge and he saw a black wolf cross the Hunters _ Springdale road yesterday . He does know what a wolf looks like. He said it was very large. Location was a little ways from the summit on the Hunters side. FYI
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You tell me
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Those aren't wolves, they are sheep in wolves clothing! :chuckle: :chuckle:
On the way to Missoula this summer saw one just like that on the side of I-90 eating on a deer,. just on the MT side of the border.
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Fairly certain I found a set of wolf tracks in the colokum when I was elk hunting this past archery season....not 100% sure, but two others in our hunting group saw the same set and thought the same thing...so who knows. Maybe some of the rifle elk/deer hunters will run across some more as well.
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The Department of Fish and Wildlife would not be planting wolves. No way. I don't believe it. Some private whacko wolf lover groups, maybe. But not the WDFW, whose jobs depend on hunting license fees. I don't think they want the wolves here anymore than we do.
there were some people from this site at the wolf meeting last week and they said the guy doing the pro wolf talking was a board member of washington fish and game.. I do not like that.. :bash:
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October 24 or 25 2009 in unit 162. After dark in the driving rain it crossed the road in front of us. We saw it in a clearcut with a flashlight and it gave no indication it was scared of us. Only 1 spotted, it was near Griffin Peak close to where we were camping at the time. It was to big to be a coyote and the wrong color. Darker with less brown but I would say it was a 1 or 2 year old wolf.
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The pic I posted is in 162, the other side from where you were.
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Have a retired pastor staying at the Lodge and he saw a black wolf cross the Hunters _ Springdale road yesterday . He does know what a wolf looks like. He said it was very large. Location was a little ways from the summit on the Hunters side. FYI
saw tracks on the summit last weekend, at least two wolves running together.
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Really frightening encounter South of Rennie Peak... I overnighted Sunday and was on a solo trip into the Lake Chelan Rec Area...glassed all day in anticipation of the high hunt opener on Thursday and found no deer... at 1 PM I spotted a dead head 4x5 in the bottom of the draw.... found nothing else to look at so finally at about 4 PM I decided to go check it out... had a pretty good rock and a clump of red grass to use as reference when I got down there. I got down in elevation and through the trees... there was my rock and clump of grass, but where was the dead head? I walked around the rock to find a den :yike:... there was old decaying hide outside it (I never did get to see the dead head up close) and I started to back away when I was startled to see a pair of VERY unhappy wolves about 40 yards from me. Very tense times! After much todo, I got back up the ridge realizing I left my spotting scope up top and that nobody would believe me without photos so I went back to get it and took a few quick photos through the spotting scope as they checked their den I will post later. The wolves (I only always saw 2 at one time but at one point there was one above me and 20 seconds later 2 below me) escorted me about a mile out of the area. I hiked 7+ grueling and tiring miles out this evening partially in need of my headlamp. Heads up to anyone planning on hunting that area for the high hunt... I'd suggest finding another place due to a low deer-to-wolf ratio. :twocents: I'll be talking to the bios tomorrow about this encounter... none of the wolves were collared, so follow-up to come.
Sorry if I missed your follow up but am curious how your visit with the bios went.
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Sorry if I missed your follow up but am curious how your visit with the bios went.
Sorry I forgot to follow up... they went back in two days after my report and said they could not locate the wolves, but did find a lot of sign and scat they collected for DNA analysis, and could tell the wolves had spent a significant amount of time in the vicinity. I never did hear if they found the deer carcass. Also they said what I had thought was a den was probably a marmot hole the wolves had dug out trying for another meal or something; it was about 24 inches across at the entrance but narrowed further in and didn't appear to open up again. That doesn't explain why there was portions of the deer in it, however. :dunno: Perhaps they were laying in the cool dirt while enjoying an afternoon snack. I was kind of disappointed it wasn't a den, because I could rationalize their behavior towards me a lot more if they were defending offspring... but they never really did growl at me or get vocal or bare their teeth or try to have large postures.. their heads were low and I could hear them kind of snap their teeth once in a while when they were doing their small charges at me... perhaps I really was seen as prey rather than a threat. :dunno:
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I could hear them kind of snap their teeth once in a while when they were doing their small charges at me... perhaps I really was seen as prey rather than a threat. :dunno:
hirsheygirl, I honestly believe you were looked at as both. Like I said before....I believe you dodged a bullet there. Be carefull when your out there and always carry an equalizer.
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Thanks for following up! Pretty amazing and scary sighting you had. I wonder if there aggressiveness had to do with the deer carcass?
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Thanks for following up! Pretty amazing and scary sighting you had. I wonder if there aggressiveness had to do with the deer carcass?
That's very possible. What I see as the important issue is that these wolves were making advances at hirshey and threatening her well being. The WDFW tries to downplay the real dangers that wolves pose and this needs to be brought to the commission's attention that wolves are already acting aggressively towards humans in this state.
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all i can say when a human gets attacked in washington by a wolf which will happen i can guarantee that we as a group need to hammer it all over the news and make damn sure the news is made aware that the supporters of the re-introduction of wolves were made aware that attacks on humans were gonna happen and the wdfw and who ever else that has their dickbeaters in this thing wanted to continue on with it anyways, there is alot of the public that has no idea that this is going on, oh and to the state department you think no-one uses campgrounds now and its hurtn your budget, juat wait until your out posting signs that read, BEWARE OF THE BIG BAD WOLF, THEY LOVE TO PRAY ON HUMANS, and see how many people buy your passes or use your campgrounds.....
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I'm not surprised that they down played the evidence Hershey provided... I think it would be a great idea to take a video camera and check up on how honest the WDFW is being... A couple of guys with cameras and guns. :twocents: Would be a great way to check the authenticity of the WDFW's desire to document wolves.... Also great ammo to show the commission... :twocents:
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:yeah: kinda tied up with getting kids tagged out right now but after that I am game for going there and looking around :tup:
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-Year and date of your sighting: 10/15/2011
- GMU (WDFW Game Management Unit): Dayton 162
- Local area where sighted: Robinette Mountain
- Explain how many wolves were seen, or voices howling, or sets of wolf tracks: 1 big black wolf sighted at about 50 yards away
- How many adults, how many pups: 1 adult
- Attach any photos of tracks or wolves (if you take photos of tracks, lay something on the ground next to the tracks for size comparison)
- Tell us why you think what you saw or heard was wolves: obvious- very large, not a pet, no people nearby, remote location
- Note any other helpful info
- Try to be as factual as possible
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Daughter and i were deer hunting on Chewuck, Parachute meadows, and 3 were seen by us, 1 was seen with binoculars as the others split off. I watched the white, with black stripe one walk about 150 yards, away from us. It was a little bigger than my english mastiff, long leggs, HUGE chest!! This would be the freezout pass wolf pac??
No wonder we didnt see any deer, or see anything packed out! Horrable year this year in the area!
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Just seen one just north of Sweet Grass Butte. Will report more when I get back.
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Daughter and i were deer hunting on Chewuck, Parachute meadows, and 3 were seen by us, 1 was seen with binoculars as the others split off. I watched the white, with black stripe one walk about 150 yards, away from us. It was a little bigger than my english mastiff, long leggs, HUGE chest!! This would be the freezout pass wolf pac??
No wonder we didnt see any deer, or see anything packed out! Horrable year this year in the area!
Thanks much for your post, can you provide the GMU number and the date this occurred? :hello:
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Daughter and i were deer hunting on Chewuck, Parachute meadows, and 3 were seen by us, 1 was seen with binoculars as the others split off. I watched the white, with black stripe one walk about 150 yards, away from us. It was a little bigger than my english mastiff, long leggs, HUGE chest!! This would be the freezout pass wolf pac??
No wonder we didnt see any deer, or see anything packed out! Horrable year this year in the area!
Thanks much for your post, can you provide the GMU number and the date this occurred? :hello:
GMU 218 oct 15 2011 about 8am
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As I expected sightings are being made of wolves in additional GMU's now that there are deer, bear, and elk hunters out across the state.
History in Idaho and Montana indicates that we should expect 20% to 30% reproductive growth in the wolf population annually, plus we will likely have additional wolves moving into the state from surrounding states and provinces which all have wolves.
The wolf population could grow faster in Washington than it has grown in any other state. :yike:
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thankyou jackelope... :tup:
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Back to the postings,I believe I saw one on Monday as i was coming down Eckler MT rd. It was out in the wheat stubble about 300yds. stopped & bino'd & it was no coyote. Big malamute? Black with no particular purpose. Just meandering,& sniffing & kept looking at the truck. Tried to stop a passing Pu for conformation but no luck. this was not in the timber & I watched for probley 5 Min's. sorry but my cheap ass camera wont work at that distance & is only carried for kill shots, so you know its empty.
Just out of dayton, GMU 162, 10/17/11.
Binos are old school but very good.
& chipped Wolves? wouldn't that be nice for monotoning?
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It was in 1997 so a ways back but it most certainly was a wolf.
We used to hunt archery up headwaters of Yellowjacket creek way south of Randle near the boundary trail. We were scouting in July in one of our favorite high meadows when I saw what looked like a mountain goat at first glance throught the binocs. It was white. Then it turned its head and the long snout confirmed it's a wolf and it started trotting down the hill towards us. No question about it.
When early season came around we found a set of tracks in the general area as well.
That same season we were talking to some other seasoned hunters in the area who when we told them about our findings were suggesting that Wolfhaven in Olympia has been releasing them in various places in the Cascades like they are God or something.
I do not doubt that they do.
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Maximus....
Yes, the 150 yards was in the original post, (learn to read)
NO, I HAVENEVER, AND WILL NEVER, ASK YOU TO HUNT YOUR, OR ANYONES LAND TO HUNT! You show me where i have asked you, or anyone for that matter to hunt your property! I dont know you, and dont want to know you! Never PM'ed, never seen your name , and definatly dont have your #!
Mind your own buisness, and stop wasting space where they can keep a head count on sightings.
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That discussion is over. This thread is for wolf sightings, not for wolf debates or any other kind of debate. Take it up in pm's or off the forum.
Thanks
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Date: 10/17/11
GMU: 218 Chewuch above mazama
My dad was sitting on a knoll glassing when something caught his naked eye. Across the canyon from him walking into a small treed patch. He brought up the spotting scope and to his amazement it was a grey wolf. He was absolutely sure it was a wolf after we were able to look over the two in Idaho a couple weeks ago. 2 others in our group were up canyon from him and they said they found wolf tracks going down a trail they were walking.
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That discussion is over (ie, the posts have been deleted). This thread is for wolf sightings, not for wolf debates or any other kind of debate.
....our findings were suggesting that Wolfhaven in Olympia has been releasing them in various places in the Cascades like they are God or something.
I do not doubt that they do.
The same standard should apply to posts like this, where specious and irresponsible accusations are made
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Date: 10/17/11
GMU: 218 Chewuch above mazama
My dad was sitting on a knoll glassing when something caught his naked eye. Across the canyon from him walking into a small treed patch. He brought up the spotting scope and to his amazement it was a grey wolf. He was absolutely sure it was a wolf after we were able to look over the two in Idaho a couple weeks ago. 2 others in our group were up canyon from him and they said they found wolf tracks going down a trail they were walking.
great post, thanks for all the info... :tup:
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That discussion is over (ie, the posts have been deleted). This thread is for wolf sightings, not for wolf debates or any other kind of debate.
....our findings were suggesting that Wolfhaven in Olympia has been releasing them in various places in the Cascades like they are God or something.
I do not doubt that they do.
The same standard should apply to posts like this, where specious and irresponsible accusations are made
Agreed.
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That discussion is over (ie, the posts have been deleted). This thread is for wolf sightings, not for wolf debates or any other kind of debate.
....our findings were suggesting that Wolfhaven in Olympia has been releasing them in various places in the Cascades like they are God or something.
I do not doubt that they do.
The same standard should apply to posts like this, where specious and irresponsible accusations are made
Agreed.
I am skeptical of them myself, but the post probably should suggest it as a suspition not as a finding.... :chuckle:
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Date: 10/17/11
GMU: 218 Chewuch above mazama
My dad was sitting on a knoll glassing when something caught his naked eye. Across the canyon from him walking into a small treed patch. He brought up the spotting scope and to his amazement it was a grey wolf. He was absolutely sure it was a wolf after we were able to look over the two in Idaho a couple weeks ago. 2 others in our group were up canyon from him and they said they found wolf tracks going down a trail they were walking.
Where were you guys at? We were up on Sweet Grass Butte, on the road that runs north of the tower and dead ends in a older clear cut when we spotted the one this year. We also seen wolf tracks up by the Goat Peak Lookout parking lot.
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GMU Chewuch 218
10/17/2011 Approx 3:30 PM
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This was spotted up by the Goat Peak Look out trail head.
48.651464,-120.401951
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Bearpaw & Jackelope,
I will abide. It is only hearsay regarding Wolfhaven releasing in the Cascades.
Nevertheless, I hope you will tally my sighting.
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Bearpaw & Jackelope,
I will abide. It is only hearsay regarding Wolfhaven releasing in the Cascades.
Nevertheless, I hope you will tally my sighting.
No worries....
Which GMU and approx date?
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I guess I was, due to see wolves. Just a pair, but GMU 673 Williams Creek. One black and one grey, at 7:05am this morning. The exact location was the 2200 road, just off the main hwy 101 South.
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Bearpaw & Jackelope,
I will abide. It is only hearsay regarding Wolfhaven releasing in the Cascades.
Nevertheless, I hope you will tally my sighting.
No worries....
Which GMU and approx date?
GMU 516. Sighting July 1997, tracks found Sept 1997.
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10-17-11 heard one howling in south gmu121. It worked it way down untill it was 30 yards away from me, got to see it pretty good, it was grey with some black on its back and tail. I moved to look threw the brush and it heard or saw me and it started running in my direction, so i made my retreat to the truck! Couple minutes later i heard it again 50 yards from where i saw it so i went back to try to get a pic, didnt get video of him\her but got some audio of him howling on my phone. He continued to howl his way up another ridge, heard him howl 15-20 times.
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10-17-11 heard one howling in south gmu121. It worked it way down untill it was 30 yards away from me, got to see it pretty good, it was grey with some black on its back and tail. I moved to look threw the brush and it heard or saw me and it started running in my direction, so i made my retreat to the truck! Couple minutes later i heard it again 50 yards from where i saw it so i went back to try to get a pic, didnt get video of him\her but got some audio of him howling on my phone. He continued to howl his way up another ridge, heard him howl 15-20 times.
Thanks for posting your info and for sending me the audio, that definitely sounds like a wolf. Thanks for reporting the incident. :tup:
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10-17-11 heard one howling in south gmu121. It worked it way down untill it was 30 yards away from me, got to see it pretty good, it was grey with some black on its back and tail. I moved to look threw the brush and it heard or saw me and it started running in my direction, so i made my retreat to the truck! Couple minutes later i heard it again 50 yards from where i saw it so i went back to try to get a pic, didnt get video of him\her but got some audio of him howling on my phone. He continued to howl his way up another ridge, heard him howl 15-20 times.
Where abouts in south 121 Tommy? (If you don't mind me asking)
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10-17-11 heard one howling in south gmu121. It worked it way down untill it was 30 yards away from me, got to see it pretty good, it was grey with some black on its back and tail. I moved to look threw the brush and it heard or saw me and it started running in my direction, so i made my retreat to the truck! Couple minutes later i heard it again 50 yards from where i saw it so i went back to try to get a pic, didnt get video of him\her but got some audio of him howling on my phone. He continued to howl his way up another ridge, heard him howl 15-20 times.
Thanks for posting your info and for sending me the audio, that definitely sounds like a wolf. Thanks for reporting the incident. :tup:
No problem! Also that video is on krem 2 webpage or it was anyways! Iwas looking around here but hadnt seen it is it up somewhere?
http://www.krem.com/your-news/132147253.html (http://www.krem.com/your-news/132147253.html)
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10-17-11 heard one howling in south gmu121. It worked it way down untill it was 30 yards away from me, got to see it pretty good, it was grey with some black on its back and tail. I moved to look threw the brush and it heard or saw me and it started running in my direction, so i made my retreat to the truck! Couple minutes later i heard it again 50 yards from where i saw it so i went back to try to get a pic, didnt get video of him\her but got some audio of him howling on my phone. He continued to howl his way up another ridge, heard him howl 15-20 times.
Thanks for posting your info and for sending me the audio, that definitely sounds like a wolf. Thanks for reporting the incident. :tup:
No problem! Also that video is on krem 2 webpage or it was anyways! Iwas looking around here but hadnt seen it is it up somewhere?
I didn't have time to try and post it yet, not sure what it will take to post it, but will try as soon as I get time.
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Here you go ...
http://www.krem.com/your-news/132147253.html (http://www.krem.com/your-news/132147253.html)
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We seen one last wednesday october 19th in unit 178 off of Rickman Gulch Rd. It was about 10 a.m. my wife, and I were glassing some CRP on a landowners property we hunt. We noticed something big, and black running out of a stubble field into the CRP I looked through my spotter to my suprise it was a wolf we watched him cross out of the tall grass back into somemore stubble then dissapear over the horizon. This was not a coyote we see tons of coyotes over there, and this wolf was easily 90-100 lbs big enough that I wouldnt let me kids hunt that area withough me sitting next to them the rest of the week. Several of the locals say there are quite a few around there, and they are not an uncommon sight anymore. We need a management plan asap.
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Here you go ...
http://www.krem.com/your-news/132147253.html (http://www.krem.com/your-news/132147253.html)
Wow!
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3 Years ago we were hunting south of Republic down by Swan Lake. It was almost dark when my wife and I heard a bunch of coyotes cut loose yapping and howling. Then, in the distance past them, we heard a lone wolf howl. We both looked at each other and said simultaneously "that's not a coyote". We hung around until it was so dark we could not see anything but could still hear animals moving all around us. Talk about make the hair stand up on the back of your neck. :yike:
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Very reliable local: Two grey phase adults this week on the north rim of Rock Creek canyon south of Freeman, Washington. GMU 127.
When I asked if he had reported the sighting, time and date the answer was 'no'. The department did not believe him when he reported howling earlier this year.
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Here are the pics of the ones in my area.
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Great photos Upthecreek..... can you post the GMU and local area? :tup:
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We were at 119 wolves, but we lost a few reported sightings when the site was down, please repost them if you can, and I will get the tally updated ASAP.
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Those 2 are from the 101 unit. Sherman Pass area.
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I figure there are 12 in that pack.I think its the LARGEST pack in the state at the moment. It is seeding the lower Coville Res and probably had something to do with wolves in Lincoln. I almost got one on film the other day.
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I talked to a Colville Rez fish and game guy and he said he had the same two on cam as well. Described both of them to me exactly.
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GMU 572 Siouxon Nov 14th 2011, Hiking (in snow) off the PCT about 5 miles and came across a lone track 4 fingers wide by 5 fingers long w/ fairly long stride. Ran into GW and told him and he first tried to tell me it was probably from a person out with their dog. I told him where we were and that no other human tracks were around. He then admitted it must have been a wolf. :o
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Fester i know a guy that bow hunts in that general vicinity and he has said her has heard wolves at his camp near the PCT.
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Just got back from elk camp a couple days ago.
My wife and son had a wolf shadowing them while walking the horse trails up above the Kalama horse camp the week before the season. She thought it was a bit coyote until she described it to me. Mostly black with a little grey throughout. It's back was about hip high to her. She took a pic of it's print in the sand/ash along side her fist. The paw print is bigger.
During the season, my pops and his partner went back by his partners spot he killed his 3X4 the day before, and a large grey was at the gutpile. No mistaking that it was a wolf.
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Ok the one time was enough but now i have had 3 encounters in a month!! 11-15-11 stopped at the first tracks along the road after the first snow and saw big wolf tracks walking down the road, was taking pics with my phone and thought i heard something so i shut off the truck and yep, heard a lone wolf howling it howled 8-10 times but was going the other way, this sounded exactly the same as the wolf that i recorded with my phone(10-17-11) it was 4 miles away from the first encounter, i am pretty sure this was the same one just by the howls. the next day(11-16-11) was coming out of the woods with a friend we both stopped to go to the bathroom. He came flying up around the corner and pointing to the woods telling me to turn off my truck, I did just in time to hear just a faint couple of howls,he let out a howl that didnt sound to good and then it was silent, was late so didnt get to hang out to try to hear it anymore. this last one i cant say it was 100% forsure but we both thought so, the first to (10-17 and 11-15) were both no doubt about it, wolves. This is starting to worry me!!!! :bash: :bash: Three in a month!! These last to were on the spokane indian reservation, the first one was real close to there. I have not figured out posting pics on here so i will get it to my email if anyone can get the pic on here.
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Ok the one time was enough but now i have had 3 encounters in a month!! 11-15-11 stopped at the first tracks along the road after the first snow and saw big wolf tracks walking down the road, was taking pics with my phone and thought i heard something so i shut off the truck and yep, heard a lone wolf howling it howled 8-10 times but was going the other way, this sounded exactly the same as the wolf that i recorded with my phone(10-17-11) it was 4 miles away from the first encounter, i am pretty sure this was the same one just by the howls. the next day(11-16-11) was coming out of the woods with a friend we both stopped to go to the bathroom. He came flying up around the corner and pointing to the woods telling me to turn off my truck, I did just in time to hear just a faint couple of howls,he let out a howl that didnt sound to good and then it was silent, was late so didnt get to hang out to try to hear it anymore. this last one i cant say it was 100% forsure but we both thought so, the first to (10-17 and 11-15) were both no doubt about it, wolves. This is starting to worry me!!!! :bash: :bash: Three in a month!! These last to were on the spokane indian reservation, the first one was real close to there. I have not figured out posting pics on here so i will get it to my email if anyone can get the pic on here.
The last one (11-16) was not the same wolf as the one i heard befor, (10-17 & 11-15) may have been the same but (11-16) was diffrent sounding howl.
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Hey Bear, I don't know if you check out huntfishNW or not but they have some very interesting wolf stories on there from here in WA.? I had to read and look at some hunting stuff while you guys were making this bigger and better. :chuckle:
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Ok the one time was enough but now i have had 3 encounters in a month!! 11-15-11 stopped at the first tracks along the road after the first snow and saw big wolf tracks walking down the road, was taking pics with my phone and thought i heard something so i shut off the truck and yep, heard a lone wolf howling it howled 8-10 times but was going the other way, this sounded exactly the same as the wolf that i recorded with my phone(10-17-11) it was 4 miles away from the first encounter, i am pretty sure this was the same one just by the howls. the next day(11-16-11) was coming out of the woods with a friend we both stopped to go to the bathroom. He came flying up around the corner and pointing to the woods telling me to turn off my truck, I did just in time to hear just a faint couple of howls,he let out a howl that didnt sound to good and then it was silent, was late so didnt get to hang out to try to hear it anymore. this last one i cant say it was 100% forsure but we both thought so, the first to (10-17 and 11-15) were both no doubt about it, wolves. This is starting to worry me!!!! :bash: :bash: Three in a month!! These last to were on the spokane indian reservation, the first one was real close to there. I have not figured out posting pics on here so i will get it to my email if anyone can get the pic on here.
The last one (11-16) was not the same wolf as the one i heard befor, (10-17 & 11-15) may have been the same but (11-16) was diffrent sounding howl.
Posting this photo for TommyH. This was taken on the Spokane Reservation
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Say 3 on I 90 on the way to the Entiat friday.Just a few miles before Easton.Not a yoty
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Watched a pair in the Soap lake area on 11/25.... Howling wolves spooked some deer we were putting the joe cougar on 5 miles from sighting.... two groups.
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Watched a pair in the Soap lake area on 11/25.... Howling wolves spooked some deer we were putting the joe cougar on 5 miles from sighting.... two groups.
:yike: how sure are you?
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Watched a pair in the Soap lake area on 11/25.... Howling wolves spooked some deer we were putting the joe cougar on 5 miles from sighting.... two groups.
:yike: how sure are you?
:yeah:
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Republic area. That's a 22-250 in the track. It measured about 5 x 4 1/2 inches.
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Up In packwood (GMU516) with the kids doing some Chrismas tree hunting and ran across a bunch of what appeared to be wolf tracks. way to big for coyote. Had no idea they were even in the area.
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Republic area. That's a 22-250 in the track. It measured about 5 x 4 1/2 inches.
So they logged off almost the entire mountain that I liked to hunt in Republic and now the wolves are moving in. Great! :bash:
:o
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Mica peak....bye bye Mr moose
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi193.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz16%2Fgyonemura%2FIMAG0209.jpg&hash=91e2288da7cb2a4688d3f585cd540f49)
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Heard wolves two nights in a row in the blues, off the panjab trail
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I reported wolves in the alpine lakes to WDFW back in '97....Lota good that did.
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Found under WDFW. cant believe how Biologlist wrote " NOT THREATING "
SPECIES Wolf
DESCRIPTION OF INCIDENT TEANAWAY PACK – INCIDENT REPORT NON-THREATENING CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH TEANAWAY PACK THE RP CALLED A WDFW BIOLOGIST TO REPORT AN INTERACTION THAT OCCURRED ON HIS PROPERTY. THE RP REPORTED THAT A HUNTER ON HIS PROPERTY WAS HUNTING ELK ON THE FARM WITH HIS 9 YEAR OLD SON. ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 26TH, 2011, THE HUNTER WAS USING AN AGENCY ISSUED LANDOWNER DAMAGE PERMIT TO HUNT FOR ANTLERLESS ELK. THE RP REPORTED, THE HUNTER WAS REPORTED TO HAVE ENCOUNTERED THE WOLF IN A VERY OPEN AREA, LESS THAN ONE MILE FROM THE RP'S HOUSE. A SINGLE WOLF WAS REPORTED TO HAVE RUN TOWARDS HIM AND HIS SON, STOPPING TO WITHIN 20 YARDS. THE ANIMAL REPORTEDLY STOOD THERE, LOOKING AT HUNTER AND HIS SON FOR 3 MINUTES. THE HUNTER FELT SAFE SINCE, HE HAD A RIFLE IN ONE HAND, AND TOOK PICTURES OF THE ANIMAL WITH HIS I-PHONE. THE WOLF LEFT, RUNNING UP THE HILL. A FEW MINUTES LATER, A GROUP OF 4 WOLVES CAME DOWN THE HILL, AND APPROACHED THE HUNTER AND HIS SON, AT A DISTANCE FURTHER THAN 20 YARDS. THE 4 ANIMALS LOOKED AT HIM THEN, RAN UP THE RIDGE THEN BARKED AND HOWLED AT HIM FROM OUT OF SIGHT. THE HUNTER COULD NOT SAY IF THE FIRST ANIMAL HE SAW WAS PART OF THIS GROUP. APPARENTLY, NONE OF THE ANIMALS SEEN UP TO THIS POINT HAD RADIO-COLLARS. THE RP SAID THE HUNTER DID NOT FEEL THAT THE ANIMALS WERE BEING AGGRESSIVE. THE NINE-YEAR OLD SON WAS REPORTEDLY GRINNING FROM EAR TO EAR AFTER THE EVENT.
REPORT INFORMATION Date/Time of Incident: November 26, 2011 Date of Report: November 26, 2011 Location: 6000 BLOCK OF TEANAWAY RD City: Cle Elum County: Kittitas Game Management Unit: 335
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A pack of five adult-sized wolves were observed for several minutes by my hunting partner at about 11:30AM on Sunday, December 11 on the Little Pend Oreille National Wildlife Refuge. Traveling East-Northeast they crossed the large open field that is on the south side of the river due south of the site of the old school house (southwest of the intersection of Bear Creek Rd. and Narcisse Creek Rd.). They disappeared into the trees along the river just 1500 feet or so from the refuge headquarters. Some were gray, some were brown.
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Snapshot,
Could you confirm that your hunting partner was certain without any doubt they were wolves and not coyotes or pack of dogs? Not saying they were, just want to check on that. We have seen tracks ourselves in this GMU.
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No question in his mind. He has been an outdoorsman for nearly thirty years. He knows coyotes (which he says he's never seen traveling in a pack during the daylight) and he knows dogs. He could hardly believe what he'd seen until I told him that I'd heard about a pack being confirmed in 'Pend Oreille' (sometime) earlier...
I trust his conclusion and I am sick that he and I had split up not five minutes before he saw the pack. He radioed me and told me what he was seeing and to hightail it back up the hill, but it was too late by the time I climbed back up to the ridge top. We waited and watched for them to re-emerge further up or down the river for a quarter of an hour, me with camera in hand, but they stayed in the trees. He said he had watched them through his binoculars for several minutes while they made their way across the opening which was about 500' wide. He said that when he saw the first two emerge his first thought was that they were deer because of their size but quickly realized that wasn't the case. He said they were nearly as big as he is. He said the lead animal kept looking back to check on the progress of its counterparts the whole way, and waited at the far edge of the clearing until the last animal had caught up before disappearing into the deciduous trees along the river.
We've friends who own property within a mile or two of that spot and when they were told what he'd seen they said others who live in the area have reported having seen wolves in the vicinity, too.
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Thanks for your clarification, we know people who live close there too and they have heard them howl.
I wasn't aware that WDFW had confirmed that pack.... :dunno:
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2007 i spotted a wolf 26 miles west of spokane while hunting the late archery season. i had just returned from two trips in AK that year as well as having seen them in ID for 4 previous years..... i knew what i had seen but was embarassed to say anything figuring nobody would believe it. that following spring one was hit and killed on hwy 291 not 3 miles from where i had seen one. a biologist confirmed it to be a wolf and was in the Spokesman review.
observed wolf tracks in september of 2011 6-8 miles south of chewelah while elk hunting on two different outings. heard a pack howling on 9/16 while packing a bull out.
11/22/11 saw and photographed (with my phone) two wolves chasing turkeys on our property while hanging a treestand in the rattlesnake ridge area above the little spokane river corridor. without knowing that i had seen the wolves, my best friend's father in law was sitting in a ground blind 100 yards from the little spokane river near st georges on 32 acres of private ground and saw 2 wolves again chasing turkeys on 11/23.
the last two sightings are within 2-3 miles of the Spokane city limits.
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2007 i spotted a wolf 26 miles west of spokane while hunting the late archery season. i had just returned from two trips in AK that year as well as having seen them in ID for 4 previous years..... i knew what i had seen but was embarassed to say anything figuring nobody would believe it. that following spring one was hit and killed on hwy 291 not 3 miles from where i had seen one. a biologist confirmed it to be a wolf and was in the Spokesman review.
observed wolf tracks in september of 2011 6-8 miles south of chewelah while elk hunting on two different outings. heard a pack howling on 9/16 while packing a bull out.
11/22/11 saw and photographed (with my phone) two wolves chasing turkeys on our property while hanging a treestand in the rattlesnake ridge area above the little spokane river corridor. without knowing that i had seen the wolves, my best friend's father in law was sitting in a ground blind 100 yards from the little spokane river near st georges on 32 acres of private ground and saw 2 wolves again chasing turkeys on 11/23.
the last two sightings are within 2-3 miles of the Spokane city limits.
Thanks for your info, could you please note which GMU's these sightings occurred in? THANKS AGAIN
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I watched 4 very dark colored wolves laying in a field for over 1 1/2 hours this afternoon. They were 1/4 mile of Carlton, unit 242 Alta. I had the scope set outside, they were still laying there when I froze out and left. These were not the very light colored wolves we been seeing for a couple years.
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I watched 4 very dark colored wolves laying in a field for over 1 1/2 hours this afternoon. They were 1/4 mile of Carlton, unit 242 Alta. I had the scope set outside, they were still laying there when I froze out and left. These were not the very light colored wolves we been seeing for a couple years.
Thgis is where WDFW is saying there are only two wolves left isn't it?
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He saw two wolves and their two shadows. Now all I need is a WDFW decal on my coat and that would be an official statement to correct this "stupid hunter" sighting. We just can't be jotting down more than we have and reach the goal or we lose $$$$$$$$$.
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I watched 4 very dark colored wolves laying in a field for over 1 1/2 hours this afternoon. They were 1/4 mile of Carlton, unit 242 Alta. I had the scope set outside, they were still laying there when I froze out and left. These were not the very light colored wolves we been seeing for a couple years.
Thgis is where WDFW is saying there are only two wolves left isn't it?
Yes, the two we have left are the three light colored ones I watched several times last winter, then in the next breath they tell you how far a wolf roams. But if all 8 of the Lookout Pack is not present "the poachers got them".
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Every where I went in the Teanaway I crossed wolf tracks. All right behind elk tracks. In Musser creek, Mills creek, Blue Creek, Indian Creek, Middle Creek, Carlson Canyon, Yellow Hill, Red Top, Iron Creek, Swauk Prarie area. I saw 3 wolves for SURE in Carlson Canyon.
Can you post the GMU and which month(s) you saw all this? Also, were the three wolves traveling together and what color were they, all adults?
THANKS
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Had two reports now in the last 2 months of a pack in the Aeneas valley by Tonasket. One was from a logger and one from a farmer. Both reports were 7 wolves seen. I will try and track down the original spotter.
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April 2009
gmu 101
north of republic
one black adult seen from about 70 yards away
no doubt it was a wolf, it is the only wolf I have seen in Washington
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My gf and I saw 2, late November 2010. We were just a few miles out from Lake Conconully. we had stopped and started glassing when she stated that.. thats one big coyote! i used my spotting scope and about 200yards out he was standing on a rock looking down the valley. About 20 feet away i spotted the other. We watched for around 15 minutes then they both went down into the draw.
They were not black.
maybe i am a bit paranoid but I keep my 16 year old son a little closer to me now.
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Just watched 3 wolves, they were laying in the field across the river from Carlton. About 20 minuets they walked into the canyon on the left and disappeared. They all were medium color, at least 2 were different wolves than I watched two days ago. Unit 242 Alta.
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At 1:35 this afternoon 5 wolves trotted the length of the big field across the river from Carlton, They were moving in a line 100 yards long, they had a plan and were going some place. Didn't have time to set the scope up but watched in the bino's. They were in sight less than 5 minutes.
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Thanks for share. :tup:
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At 1:35 this afternoon 5 wolves trotted the length of the big field across the river from Carlton, They were moving in a line 100 yards long, they had a plan and were going some place. Didn't have time to set the scope up but watched in the bino's. They were in sight less than 5 minutes.
I assume this is the Lookout Pack?
Which GMU is that where you saw these wolves?
WDFW needs to get on top of these wolf sightings, how will they ever confirm Washington's wolf packs with only 1 trapper. We've already got wolves all over the state and they cannot seem to keep up with the first pack confirmed in the state. :twocents:
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WDFW needs to get on top of these wolf sightings,
Other agencies are also very involved. I personally know a high ranking USFS Biologist in the eastern Cascades. His department, himself and his underlings have been very involved with the Teanaway and Pasayten packs
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At 1:35 this afternoon 5 wolves trotted the length of the big field across the river from Carlton, They were moving in a line 100 yards long, they had a plan and were going some place. Didn't have time to set the scope up but watched in the bino's. They were in sight less than 5 minutes.
I assume this is the Lookout Pack?
Which GMU is that where you saw these wolves?
WDFW needs to get on top of these wolf sightings, how will they ever confirm Washington's wolf packs with only 1 trapper. We've already got wolves all over the state and they cannot seem to keep up with the first pack confirmed in the state. :twocents:
If this is in Washington, Dale, it's out of Brewster going up to Twisp.
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At 1:35 this afternoon 5 wolves trotted the length of the big field across the river from Carlton, They were moving in a line 100 yards long, they had a plan and were going some place. Didn't have time to set the scope up but watched in the bino's. They were in sight less than 5 minutes.
I assume this is the Lookout Pack?
Which GMU is that where you saw these wolves?
WDFW needs to get on top of these wolf sightings, how will they ever confirm Washington's wolf packs with only 1 trapper. We've already got wolves all over the state and they cannot seem to keep up with the first pack confirmed in the state. :twocents:
If this is in Washington, Dale, it's out of Brewster going up to Twisp.
This is in GMU 242 ALTA. Methow Valley. They have been reported. They are in the Lookout Pack territory, these 5 wolves are different color than the supposedly remaining 2-3 Lookout Pack we watched last winter and spring. At the very same time I was watching these, wolves were heard howling 8 miles north of here.
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Got a call from my cousin this morning at 7:53 am. He had just stopped at Watt canyon to glass with his new spotting scope he got for xmas. He saw two wolves there. He first thought those are big coyotes, and after he put the binos down and put his new spotting scope to use. He realized he was looking at two wolves. He said there was no doubt that what he and his girlfriend seen were not coyotes.
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Got a call from my cousin this morning at 7:53 am. He had just stopped at Watt canyon to glass with his new spotting scope he got for xmas. He saw two wolves there. He first thought those are big coyotes, and after he put the binos down and put his new spotting scope to use. He realized he was looking at two wolves. He said there was no doubt that what he and his girlfriend seen were not coyotes.
Damm they musta dogded cars on I90 , fricken great!
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December 2010 my buddy watched 4 wolves take down a whitetail doe, eat one hind quarter and leave it to rot on the banks of the San Poil River a mile and 1/2 North of McMann Creek in Republic.
February 2008, Buddy spotted 3 wolves on bluff over McMann Creek.
October 2008, Buddy spotted 4 wolves killing a whitetail buck near Camel Back Mt. Near Republic.
December 2009 I found 4 sets of fresh wolf tracks in the snow near Quartz Mt.
November 2000, my buddy and I spotted 2 wolves on Snow peak chasing a mule deer doe.
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I keep hearing that folks around Goldendale are seeing them in the simcoes. And a few people have seen them a couple miles out of town. I don't have any photos but I was wondering if any one has seen or heard anyone else sighting any this far south?
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On 11-5-11, my brother, dad, and I saw one lone wolf track that appeared to be hunting the deer herd that we were hunting. We were in the Steptoe Unit north of Colfax. The wolf tracks were between 4.5-5". The wolf tracks were in the frozen mud travelling both east and west in about a 400 yard line on the winter wheat/timber edge. In several spots, the wolf had taken off running out into the winter wheat, presumably chasing deer. There were no human tracks around, so can't believe it was a house dog. I have tried to walk down cougars in the snow for several years now, and know without a doubt they were not cougar tracks. These had large nails and were not rounded like a cat. Had we not been making a play on two really good bucks and one mediocre bucks, I may have remembered to take pictures.
Have there been any other sightings in the Steptoe or surrounding units? Sure is pretty open country for a wolf, I thought...though I don't really know much about wolf habitat.
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I keep hearing that folks around Goldendale are seeing them in the simcoes. And a few people have seen them a couple miles out of town. I don't have any photos but I was wondering if any one has seen or heard anyone else sighting any this far south?
yes they've been spotted throughout the rez from the north to central an south also the west boundary
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I have been busy and have not updated the wolf total in a while, I did once but when the site went down for two weeks we lost some sightings and the last update, but please keep the reports coming in, if your sighting was lost, please report it again, I will get the minimum wolf total updated as soon as I have time. :hello:
This topic has now been viewed more than 10,800 times, there are alot of people monitoring this topic and reporting sightings.
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thank you bearpaw for this thread, it is really helpful for us westsiders, i have heard of people seeing them on this side, i for one have not nor have i heard any at night, but i figure with the way its going on the eastside it wont be long before we are seeing them over hear, maybe we will get lucky and a pack will take up residence on the capitol lawn, i hear politicians are good eatn
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On 11-25-11 I saw two gray wolves heading up to lookout mt. close to twisp.
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A female wolf with a radio collar from the Diamond pack in Pend Oreille county was trapped and killed in Idaho on December 20th as reported by Idaho Dept. of Fish and Game. It was reported in the Northwest Sportsman.
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A female wolf with a radio collar from the Diamond pack in Pend Oreille county was trapped and killed in Idaho on December 20th as reported by Idaho Dept. of Fish and Game. It was reported in the Northwest Sportsman.
Thanks for posting, when I update the tally I will deduct that wolf. :tup:
Keep the reports coming in folks... :tup:
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I saw 1 in south 505 12/31/11 black with lighter side. I've set my trail cams up to try to get some pics
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Thanks for the info guys, I am updating the total to catch up with the more recent sightings.
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i have some pictures of some HUGE WOLVES yhat were killed with Idaho wolf tags that i would like to send to you so you can post they were sent to my blackberry and i can't figure out how to post them
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GMU 450. These pics are from october.
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SWHUNTER, can you provide a general area that you saw the tracks?
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They were up high in the Suiattle river drainage.
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They were up high in the Suiattle river drainage.
Were the tracks close to human settlement or areas of possible dog activity, or were these tracks up high in the mountains away from places dogs might frequent?
Thanks for your help.
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We didn't actually see the wolf but we spotted these tracks heading in for Brads Raffle Bull last month in the Blues. Packing out of the canyon there were fresh tracks over the top of our boot prints in the snow. :yike:
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They were up high in the Suiattle river drainage.
Were the tracks close to human settlement or areas of possible dog activity, or were these tracks up high in the mountains away from places dogs might frequent?
Thanks for your help.
Bearpaw,
The tracks were over 18 miles from where you can drive to. They were in the GLacier Peak wilderness. No other humans in the area at the time. No human tracks in the snow.
SW
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No dogs in here either.
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SWHUNTER...Good job on the find ... they have ben there for years ... :tup:
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Excellent info swhunter....I am adding this wolf to the count.... :tup:
huntnphool, can you provide the GMU and any other info.... I am trying to update the blue mtn info....
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PM sent Dale
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I live in 124 south of Newport right on the Idaho line. I saw my first wolf about 3 years ago. I found tracks within a 100 yards of my barn, see tracks hunting, shed hunting and out walking. I hear them howling at times also. Yes they are here! I talked to a WDFW warden about a dog problem here and the subject led to wolves. He assured me I was seeing and hearing hybrids! I had livestock at the time so I said there should be no problem shooting the hybrids if they are on my place. His advice was not to do that because it might be a wolf. Figure that one out! Preadators are not controlled in Washington very well. Unless man is the top predator herds cannot be managed. Man can choose what to harvest. Wolves, cats, bears and coyotes don't!
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My dad and I went snowmobiling out to our cabin in the North Fork Teanaway (GMU 335) and on the main road at about Indian Creek there were two different wolf tracks that came out onto the county road, walked right down the center and then went back up at about Middle Creek. We were the first ones up in the fresh snow and it was snowing hard, so we just missed them. One was bleeding from its paw or leg because every 4 or 5 steps there were some spots of blood in the road. Don't know if this helps or not? Thought i'd post it so everyone knows-
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Probably a female in heat.
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My dad and I went snowmobiling out to our cabin in the North Fork Teanaway (GMU 335) and on the main road at about Indian Creek there were two different wolf tracks that came out onto the county road, walked right down the center and then went back up at about Middle Creek. We were the first ones up in the fresh snow and it was snowing hard, so we just missed them. One was bleeding from its paw or leg because every 4 or 5 steps there were some spots of blood in the road. Don't know if this helps or not? Thought i'd post it so everyone knows-
Yep, grundy is most likely correct, we saw this same thing in Idaho near the end of January when 2 wolves were traveling together....
You can look forward to more pups in the spring... :yike:
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Wolf pics from a very knowledgeable hunter and trapper, 3 of the Smackout wolves, top photo taken Dec 29, 2011 in GMU 111.
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I have mentioned that two people I know have seen wolves in GMU 108, now the same local trapper who got the pics of the smackout wolves has gotten a picture of a wolf in GMU 108.
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My dad and I went snowmobiling out to our cabin in the North Fork Teanaway (GMU 335) and on the main road at about Indian Creek there were two different wolf tracks that came out onto the county road, walked right down the center and then went back up at about Middle Creek. We were the first ones up in the fresh snow and it was snowing hard, so we just missed them. One was bleeding from its paw or leg because every 4 or 5 steps there were some spots of blood in the road. Don't know if this helps or not? Thought i'd post it so everyone knows-
Yep, grundy is most likely correct, we saw this same thing in Idaho near the end of January when 2 wolves were traveling together....
You can look forward to more pups in the spring... :yike:
That explains one smaller track and one bigger track-
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Date and Year of sighting- 10/18 10/19 10/20 2011
- GMU 175 charlie creek
- How Many Wolves 1 on the first day and 2 on the seond and third
- How Many Adults 3
- How Many Pups 0
- Photos of Tracks or Wolves Negative
- Explain why you think what you saw or heard was wolves- Me and another member were deer hunting and saw a dog about 300 yards away in a stubble field, after watching it for a bit and conversnig about how large that coyote was and then later seeing actual coyote in the same field we agreed that it was a wolf, then the next day my buddies dad was siting at camp and watched to black wovles chasing a heard of does threw the exact same field. The third time was on the third day me and the other member were sitting a camp and watched threw the spotting scopes the same two balck wolves roaming threw some crp.
- Note any helpful info
- Be as factual as possible
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Sightings posted in another topic:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=91636.0
GMU 111 - Jan 28,2012
A trapper friend just messaged and then called me:
He just seen where two wolves chased a moose down the Paradise Rd in GMU 111 for about 2 miles and followed the moose over the bank. He said the wolves were right on the moose's tail. The moose which appears to be a bull by the size of the tracks, tried to go uphill, you could see they caught him up there, had a little standoff and tore things up pretty good, then the moose broke downhill and went down across the road.
He says might go back up and walk the tracks out to see if the wolves finished killing the moose.
He has recent pictures this winter of several wolves in that area and it's likely that it was two of these wolves.
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GMU 101 - January 2012 - Moose Killed by 3 wolves
Wolf tracks were found last week on S. Fork Sherman Creek Road. The guys followed the tracks 50 yards off the side of the road and found a fresh moose kill. It appears to be 3 wolves feeding on the kill. They set up trail cams and left. Hopefully they will get trail cam photos of those wolves as well. I have two different hunters who reported wolves this last hunting season 2011 near the same area. Wolf tracks have also been documented on Graves Mtn, Bridge Creek, S Sherman, and Barnaby Creek.
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GMU 101
I tried to sort out tracks in the Sherman area and believe that pack to be 12 strong. They are wreaking havoc on the muledeer on the South Kettle Crest. I am seriously hoping the tribe gets involved as they are all over the northern boundary.
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GMU 111
I wish I could get over to my place and check my cams. They was last checked Nov. 20th and I am sure the Batt. are about run out now. Unit 111
We did hear howls in Nov. up Frisco (Cedar creek). No sightings but positive they were wolves. I figured they were part of or a breakoff of the smackout pack since it's only a stones throw away.
They are spreading out fast. :bash:
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Colville Reservation (south of GMU 101)
There is a new one establishing in Hellsgate. I've seen strays(singles) several years now. This year there were three working where they dumped the sheep. I am hoping to catch them this spring down there on film.
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Spokane Reservation (south of GMU 121)
Across the river as well. The same morning I saw 2-3 sets of tracks on a deer kill, my partner saw 4-5 tracks in another spot on the spokane res, just a few miles away. They were not the same ones. :bash: :bash:
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Here's a trailcam photo of a wolf near Meadow Lake in October, 2011, from the same trapper. It could be the same wolf as the one in GMU 108 which was taken not too far away, however, I think the coloration may be a little different.
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Wolf on the Colville Indian Reservation, photo taken in the summer.
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Another wolf on the reservation just south of boundary from Sherman area.
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Two more pictures near Nespelem, they killed a mule deer doe only 70 yards from a home.
Almost forgot to mention, these photos were taken Jan 22, 2012.
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Dale,
What is the stride distance of a wolf if the tracks are snowed in ? The ranchers over here have shown me tracks that have too much snow in them, but look like wolf tracks. I've heard of another one near Wauconda last week.
Thanks,
Campmeat
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More wolf pics from my trapper friend who WDFW should hire to document Washington's wolves. This guy has got the location of numerous undocumented wolves figured out, just in his spare time.
This is why we think there are 2 packs in GMU 105. Lots of sightings on the Northport (east) side and there are sightings on the Orient (west) side.
Nov 3, 2011 wolf picture is on the east side of GMU 105 near Northport.
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Another wolf picture from my trapper friend on the Orient side of GMU 105.
This could be one of the wolves that H-W members have been seeing near the Pierre/Summit Lake area. This is also very likely one of the wolves that's leaving wolf scat full of cattle hair. McIrvins lost over two dozen head of cattle this last year and there was wolf scat all over the area full of cattle hair.
There are 5 wolves running in this pack, the trapper only got a photo of this one so far. But numerous people have seen these wolves, seen the tracks, and heard this pack howling in the area.
Trailcam photo taken January 2, 2012.
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Dale,
What is the stride distance of a wolf if the tracks are snowed in ? The ranchers over here have shown me tracks that have too much snow in them, but look like wolf tracks. I've heard of another one near Wauconda last week.
Thanks,
Campmeat
I never measured them but according to this page: http://washingtonwolf.info/identification.html
Tracks may be 24 to 36 inches apart, depending on size and how the wolf is moving. Take a look....
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Dale,
What is the stride distance of a wolf if the tracks are snowed in ? The ranchers over here have shown me tracks that have too much snow in them, but look like wolf tracks. I've heard of another one near Wauconda last week.
Thanks,
Campmeat
Looks about right then. Thanks.
I never measured them but according to this page: http://washingtonwolf.info/identification.html
Tracks may be 24 to 36 inches apart, depending on size and how the wolf is moving. Take a look....
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Another sighting by the trapper who has been providing a lot of photos and locations of these wolf packs in NE Washington.
Three times this last summer 2011, a pack of 5 adult wolves was seen around the dominion area just east of Colville.
Jan 29, 2012, today two wolves crossed the road on the backside of Dominion Mtn. Here's a photo of the tracks.
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Another wolf picture from my trapper friend on the Orient side of GMU 105.
This could be one of the wolves that H-W members have been seeing near the Pierre/Summit Lake area. This is also very likely one of the wolves that's leaving wolf scat full of cattle hair. McIrvins lost over two dozen head of cattle this last year and there was wolf scat all over the area full of cattle hair.
There are 5 wolves running in this pack, the trapper only got a photo of this one so far. But numerous people have seen these wolves, seen the tracks, and heard this pack howling in the area.
Trailcam photo taken January 2, 2012.
That wolf looks like it has been eating well. >:(
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Another wolf picture from my trapper friend on the Orient side of GMU 105.
This could be one of the wolves that H-W members have been seeing near the Pierre/Summit Lake area. This is also very likely one of the wolves that's leaving wolf scat full of cattle hair. McIrvins lost over two dozen head of cattle this last year and there was wolf scat all over the area full of cattle hair.
There are 5 wolves running in this pack, the trapper only got a photo of this one so far. But numerous people have seen these wolves, seen the tracks, and heard this pack howling in the area.
Trailcam photo taken January 2, 2012.
That wolf looks like it has been eating well. >:(
Where's the beef..... :chuckle:
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BP maybe you should introduce your "Trapper" to the Colville as a way of getting his Fed certifcation as a Gov trapper done... :twocents: Make it so hard for the WDFW to not hire a guy like this.
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BP maybe you should introduce your "Trapper" to the Colville as a way of getting his Fed certifcation as a Gov trapper done... :twocents: Make it so hard for the WDFW to not hire a guy like this.
They are requiring 2 years college on their wolf trapper application.
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Feb 2, 2012
Wolf caught on trailcam by my trapper friend north of Kettle Falls near Barstow in GMU 101.
This makes 4 areas in GMU 101 with wolves. Barstow, Malo, San Poil River, and Sherman Creek.
Where is WDFW?
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BP maybe you should introduce your "Trapper" to the Colville as a way of getting his Fed certifcation as a Gov trapper done... :twocents: Make it so hard for the WDFW to not hire a guy like this.
They are requiring 2 years college on their wolf trapper application.
That's ridiculous.
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Feb 2, 2012
Wolf caught on trailcam by my trapper friend north of Kettle Falls near Barstow in GMU 101.
This makes 4 areas in GMU 101 with wolves. Barstow, Malo, San Poil River, and Sherman Creek.
Where is WDFW?
playing hide and seek! Showing their true colors! :bash: :bash:
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Feb 2, 2012
Wolf caught on trailcam by my trapper friend north of Kettle Falls near Barstow in GMU 101.
This makes 4 areas in GMU 101 with wolves. Barstow, Malo, San Poil River, and Sherman Creek.
Where is WDFW?
playing hide and seek! Showing their true colors! :bash: :bash:
They have their heads buried in the sand or........... other places!!!
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What is the justification for a 2 yr degree? What would you need one for? Why would you need an AA let alone a Bio degree fro trapping and slapping a collar on? :bash: Sounds to me like they were trying to limit their pool. :twocents:
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99% sure I saw one near Loomis two years ago. I have pictures of the tracks.
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What is the justification for a 2 yr degree? What would you need one for? Why would you need an AA let alone a Bio degree fro trapping and slapping a collar on? :bash: Sounds to me like they were trying to limit their pool. :twocents:
So that the applicant has the necessary greenie-wolf hugger brainwashing from predator lovers? :dunno:
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No dogs in here either.
These wolves have been on this mountain for over a year straight. They don't seem to ever venture off of it. One of them is BIG!
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BP maybe you should introduce your "Trapper" to the Colville as a way of getting his Fed certifcation as a Gov trapper done... :twocents: Make it so hard for the WDFW to not hire a guy like this.
They are requiring 2 years college on their wolf trapper application.
Are you friggin serouis? So if the best trapper in Washington state doesnt have a 2 year degree at a collage, they cant trap for the WDFW? Thats BS. Hands on is way better than a text book. :bash:
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Talked to mt buddy in Republic today and he has been finding a TON of fresh wolf tracks and kills. Everywhere from in the 204 up behind Konz's Ranch all the way to Quartz Mountain.
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BP maybe you should introduce your "Trapper" to the Colville as a way of getting his Fed certifcation as a Gov trapper done... :twocents: Make it so hard for the WDFW to not hire a guy like this.
They are requiring 2 years college on their wolf trapper application.
Are you sure that the applicant cannot substitute experience for education? I know with a lot of government positions they require an absurd (IMO) amount of college for any particular job, but experience can also substitute for education as long as it is relevant to the duties being performed.
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Bearpaw, are you or anyone else reporting these wolves to the WDFW? It seems as though they would at least want to go out with your trapper friend and verify some of these locations.
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99% sure I saw one near Loomis two years ago. I have pictures of the tracks.
Please post the pics if you can find them, include rough location, GMU, and date.
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Bearpaw, are you or anyone else reporting these wolves to the WDFW? It seems as though they would at least want to go out with your trapper friend and verify some of these locations.
I have been told WDFW is constructing a new sightings page and wants to include our sightings.
It sounds like WDFW is more concerned about requiring the college time for this job than actual trapping experience or local knowledge.
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I will be headed over to republic next week. I will try and take some pics of tracks and kills with identifyable background if we can find them again.
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What is the justification for a 2 yr degree? What would you need one for? Why would you need an AA let alone a Bio degree fro trapping and slapping a collar on? :bash: Sounds to me like they were trying to limit their pool. :twocents:
So that the applicant has the necessary greenie-wolf hugger brainwashing from predator lovers? :dunno:
My thoughts exactly, it's plain their not about finding wolves.
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I think you guys are slightly confused on the WDFW positions. The actual person doing the trapping, collaring, reporting, and updating of the sighting maps has to have a 4 year degree in Wildlife management or equivalent degree, and two years of experience as a entry level bio. A masters degree or PhD may substitute for only 1 year of experience, which means they want someone with actual field experience. In your cover letter you have to express how you meet the qualifications of the job including your trapping skills. I wanted to apply but do not have the necessary experience trapping. These are minimum qualifications for this and most all biologist 2 positions. I think if they are looking for someone to just trap and slap on a collar the would contract the work.
The position that is requiring 2 year or AA degree is the technician position, they go out to try to verify internal/external sightings by looking for any sign of wolves, and place remote cameras for pictures. The technicians work closely with the biologist 2 position mentioned above, and may be involved in some trapping. This job you also have to have a cover letter explaining how you meet all of the qualifications. I WILL be applying for this position!!
The way I see it is they are thinking more long term. The WDFW sees how controversial this is and they want thourough numbers to delist the wolves quickly. This may very well be a move to limit the amount of herd damage that has been done in the other states. I know Montana is just now hiring their first wolf bio, and I am not sure how many people have been hired in similar positions in Idaho. :twocents:
Brandon
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I think you guys are slightly confused on the WDFW positions. The actual person doing the trapping, collaring, reporting, and updating of the sighting maps has to have a 4 year degree in Wildlife management or equivalent degree, and two years of experience as a entry level bio. A masters degree or PhD may substitute for only 1 year of experience, which means they want someone with actual field experience. In your cover letter you have to express how you meet the qualifications of the job including your trapping skills. I wanted to apply but do not have the necessary experience trapping. These are minimum qualifications for this and most all biologist 2 positions. I think if they are looking for someone to just trap and slap on a collar the would contract the work.
The position that is requiring 2 year or AA degree is the technician position, they go out to try to verify internal/external sightings by looking for any sign of wolves, and place remote cameras for pictures. The technicians work closely with the biologist 2 position mentioned above, and may be involved in some trapping. This job you also have to have a cover letter explaining how you meet all of the qualifications. I WILL be applying for this position!!
The way I see it is they are thinking more long term. The WDFW sees how controversial this is and they want thourough numbers to delist the wolves quickly. This may very well be a move to limit the amount of herd damage that has been done in the other states. I know Montana is just now hiring their first wolf bio, and I am not sure how many people have been hired in similar positions in Idaho. :twocents:
Brandon
If local trappers and hunters have pics of wolves and the state needs some one to prove that they are in an area why dont they allow a bounty on a trapped wolf. Allow the locals to trap and tag or collar them. Then pay them for every wolf they trap. It would save hundreds of thousands of dollars and they could still study the wolfs movments. For someone with no local knowlage of an area to go out and try to find and pattern a wolf pac could take years. :bdid:
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If local trappers and hunters have pics of wolves and the state needs some one to prove that they are in an area why don't they allow a bounty on a trapped wolf. Allow the locals to trap and tag or collar them. Then pay them for every wolf they trap. It would save hundreds of thousands of dollars and they could still study the wolfs movements. For someone with no local knowledge of an area to go out and try to find and pattern a wolf pack could take years. :bdid:
I am not sure, I would think that it has to do with they want someone who is trained to take DNA samples, hair samples, accurate aging, sexing and all the other details (if there is more) to build the database on wolves. I am sure that many locals would be capable of this as well, but in order to do it they would probably have to be trained, so now we are back to spending lots of money to train all the people who want to trap wolves. Not to mention they still have to pay someone to maintain the wolf site, and enter all of the data. There are a lot of responsibilities to get this accomplished and honestly I don't think most trappers would want to spend the time doing all the work for pennies (most likely what the state would pay), when they could make better money trapping things that could be sold. :twocents:
Brandon
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I think you guys are slightly confused on the WDFW positions. The actual person doing the trapping, collaring, reporting, and updating of the sighting maps has to have a 4 year degree in Wildlife management or equivalent degree, and two years of experience as a entry level bio. A masters degree or PhD may substitute for only 1 year of experience, which means they want someone with actual field experience. In your cover letter you have to express how you meet the qualifications of the job including your trapping skills. I wanted to apply but do not have the necessary experience trapping. These are minimum qualifications for this and most all biologist 2 positions. I think if they are looking for someone to just trap and slap on a collar the would contract the work.
The position that is requiring 2 year or AA degree is the technician position, they go out to try to verify internal/external sightings by looking for any sign of wolves, and place remote cameras for pictures. The technicians work closely with the biologist 2 position mentioned above, and may be involved in some trapping. This job you also have to have a cover letter explaining how you meet all of the qualifications. I WILL be applying for this position!!
The way I see it is they are thinking more long term. The WDFW sees how controversial this is and they want thourough numbers to delist the wolves quickly. This may very well be a move to limit the amount of herd damage that has been done in the other states. I know Montana is just now hiring their first wolf bio, and I am not sure how many people have been hired in similar positions in Idaho. :twocents:
Brandon
After seeing the job description myself, I think you are exactly correct... :tup:
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Here's what I find especially humorous. My youngest daughter will soon be done with college, with a masters in biology and two other degrees in psychology and I think teaching. She never spent a day with me on a trapline but is more qualified for this job than I or my trapper friend. :chuckle:
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Here's what I find especially humorous. My youngest daughter will soon be done with college, with a masters in biology and two other degrees in psychology and I think teaching. She never spent a day with me on a trapline but is more qualified for this job than I or my trapper friend. :chuckle:
Yeah....and if the two of you wrote separate but identical papers about wolves....her's would be science and your's would be ramblings of a disgruntled hunter/outfitter. :o
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You just have to learn to use big biological terms. You also have to take all emotion out of the paper you write (at least for it to be good scientific article).
Brandon
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This was sent to me by a friend that lives in Idaho. Some good reading and new information to me.
http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2011/05/10/overview-of-challis-idaho-meeting-about-hydatid-disease/
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I can't tell if I had a wolf on my property last night/morning. The dogs were raising hell and down off their normal patrol area. My boots are size 13 next to the tracks. The 3rd picture has coyote tracks mixed in with the wolf tracks. ?!
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This was sent to me by a friend that lives in Idaho. Some good reading and new information to me.
http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2011/05/10/overview-of-challis-idaho-meeting-about-hydatid-disease/
Sounds to me as though this state better get on the bandwagon and c0-0perate with this program in its infancy to this region....
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If you're going to worry about Hydatid disease, you might want to worry about the most common source, dogs, or another canine scourge, the coyote.
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Tapeworms_and_hydatid_disease
But of course, this isn't about reality, this is about spreading panic about wolves.
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If you're going to worry about Hydatid disease, you might want to worry about the most common source, dogs, or another canine scourge, the coyote.
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Tapeworms_and_hydatid_disease
But of course, this isn't about reality, this is about spreading panic about wolves.
I agree with your first sentence. The second one has no value added info. though, sounds like your just trying to stir the pot.............again. :twocents:
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Hey Sitka! Quit with the bs! If you're gonna be a wolf lover do it somewhere else!
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If you're going to worry about Hydatid disease, you might want to worry about the most common source, dogs, or another canine scourge, the coyote.
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Tapeworms_and_hydatid_disease
But of course, this isn't about reality, this is about spreading panic about wolves.
This about spreading the truth about wolves, not the Disney edited version. :twocents:
Before canadian wolves were introduced in Idaho, the frequence of E Granulosus was minimal, but according to WSU, 62% of idaho wolves are carrying the worm, because wolves are such wide ranging animals they are depositing wolf worms in their stools all over the countryside for other canids and species to get infected from.
If Oregon-7 is infected, (2/3 chance of it) there are wolf worms deposited all the way through Oregon and into California.
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Last night I attended the SCI Banquet in Spokane with one of my good friends who also guides for me. He had one of the cow elk tags on Turnbull Refuge near Cheney last fall.
On November 5, 2011 they saw 1 black and 1 gray wolf on the refuge while elk hunting. He said there was no question about it, they were clearly 2 wolves. He said he reported it and was told there were other sightings of wolves on the refuge.
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Well, I guess nobody has any input on my info. So, I guess I'll bow out of all the BS about wolf problems and WFW. Thanks, but no thanks. Too many people on here that don't know sh!t. I live here and most of the critics live on the westside. Typical !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The westsiders always have an opinion and don't have all the facts. Some do and some don't. I'm so sick and tired of the onesided comments, and debates on here, it's disgusting. You live in a world that is full of more lies and deceit. We do to, but, at least we have reps that are fighting all the liberal BS that is crammed down your/our throats. I'm really fed up with the way this website has gone form a hunting family website to a soapbox of anti hunting, anti everything, it's my way type of site. Crawl out of your cave and unite. All we do is bitch and tear down everything we disagree on. I will not cow down to say I'm sorry for my post, because to me, that's a sign of weakness. I beleive in what I beleive and that's it. There are are few that need to grow up, as I might too, but, I don't care.
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It is likely that they are wolf tracks Campmeat... SB do you know of any studies that state how many coyotes and dogs are infected with this parasite? I would guess that there are a few differences between Coyotes and wolves. Coyotes main food in many places is small game with some deer fawns thrown in. Yes there are areas with deep crusty snow that coyotes pack up and kill deer but for the most part they are fawn killers. The main part of the diet with wolves is deer and elk... They don't eat to much small game. Wolves travel huge distances coyotes not so much.
Now i would bet if a study checked the number of coyotes from an area like the Basin verses an area like ID that has both wolves AND coyotes the coyotes there would have HD to the same degree that wolves do. The devil is in the details, there are few exceptions.
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Campmeat I'm not sure they are big enough for wolf tracks. I don't know exactly where you live and whether or not you have neighbors with dogs running loose in your area. Did the tracks just follow the road or did they take off cross country? Could it have been neighbor dogs out chasing deer and on their way back home on the road? As you know, we've got wolves documented in your area so they are very possibly wolf tracks.
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We've seen wolves here for more than 3 years and the game dept has said, "Oh well, it's not on PRIVATE Land, so we'll not do anything about hanging a game cam ". Specila T, I don't care about parasites, why ? We have a bigger problem with wolves. Don't forget Special T, the WDFW is owned by the commies liberals.
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Camp, if you want an opinion I will give you mine. Those track appear to be slightly small for wolf. From what I have seen and read the middle toes on wolves are much longer, and make a very distinct track. So I think mom and pup coyotes, especially because there are coyote tracks mixed in. However if you have the time follow the tracks, if you find a dead coyote then young wolves may be present. Wolves will not stop until the coyote is dead, if he was found in their territory. Now it is extremely hard to tell with only a boot for reference. If there was something a little more universal in the pic it may be easier to determine. Pictures never do any animal or track justice as far as size. Did you happen to get a measurement of the stride?
Brandon
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Campmeat I'm not sure they are big enough for wolf tracks. I don't know exactly where you live and whether or not you have neighbors with dogs running loose in your area. Did the tracks just follow the road or did they take off cross country? Could it have been neighbor dogs out chasing deer and on their way back home on the road? As you know, we've got wolves documented in your area so they are very possibly wolf tracks.
Dale,
We don't have roaming dogs, I'd shoot them. The tracks were 4x3 inches. The tracks came up off of Tonasket Creek Rd and came up to my house, They wondered around my driveway and left. They went up the road and I lost them, muddy. The one picture I posted has coyote tracks in them with the "other" tracks 2 feet from them. They were about 5x's bigger than the coyote tracks. I have Rotts and their tracks are maybe 1/3 the size of the 'other' tracks. Very strange. Nobody has a dog around here that could leave such a large imprint.
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Camp, if you want an opinion I will give you mine. Those track appear to be slightly small for wolf. From what I have seen and read the middle tows on wolves are much longer, and make a very distinct track. So I think mom and pup coyotes, especially because there are coyote tracks mixed in. However if you have the time follow the tracks, if you find a dead coyote then young wolves may be present. Wolves will not stop until the coyote is dead, if he was found in their territory. Now it is extremely hard to tell with only a boot for reference. If there was something a little more universal in the pic it may be easier to determine. Pictures never do any animal or track justice as far as size. Did you happen to get a measurement of the stride?
Brandon
Brandon.
Look at my reply to Dale.
Thanks.
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Well it could be a small young wolf. Also the part about coming up towards your house makes me hesitate to say wolf, because they tend to shy away from anything human. But then again as stated before if it is a young wolf it could be curious. I think if you believe it was a wolf then it is. We are not there to see the tracks. What is the deal with the WDFW saying they are not on private property so they won't hang a camera? Do you have a game cam you can put out?
Brandon
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Well it could be a small young wolf. Also the part about coming up towards your house makes me hesitate to say wolf, because they tend to shy away from anything human. But then again as stated before if it is a young wolf it could be curious. I think if you believe it was a wolf then it is. We are not there to see the tracks. What is the deal with the WDFW saying they are not on private property so they won't hang a camera? Do you have a game cam you can put out?
Brandon
I had pictures of wolf tracks 2 years ago west of Republic. I took pictures of the tracks at the state gravel pit where they dump carcasses. Dana Base in Colville was given the pictures and was very excited as to where I took them. He stated to me the (WDFW) would like to put up trail cameras at that location. I told him where it was at and he said they (WDFW) only would put up trail cameras on private property. Why, you got me !
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Campmeat I think these tracks may be dog, they are not as elongated or as big as wolf tracks usually are, I am also suspicious that they came to your house and followed the road so much. Dogs tend to do that. But like mentioned, maybe they are a young wolf, I would certainly put out a trail cam if you have one.
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Just heard two wolves the other night up hall creek. Definetly dont sound like yotes at all.
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Just heard two wolves the other night up hall creek. Definetly dont sound like yotes at all.
There is no mistaking that sound! I had a game warden tell me a few years ago that I was just hearing my neighbors Hybrids! My neighbors don't have any. There are no homes where I heard these anyway.
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Just heard two wolves the other night up hall creek. Definetly dont sound like yotes at all.
There is no mistaking that sound! I had a game warden tell me a few years ago that I was just hearing my neighbors Hybrids! My neighbors don't have any. There are no homes where I heard these anyway.
Where were the ones you heard? Have you posted any info about them?
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Just heard two wolves the other night up hall creek. Definetly dont sound like yotes at all.
There is no mistaking that sound! I had a game warden tell me a few years ago that I was just hearing my neighbors Hybrids! My neighbors don't have any. There are no homes where I heard these anyway.
Where were the ones you heard? Have you posted any info about them?
Grizzly mt, Sit down area on the rez. I am going to get ahold of fish and wildlife and let them know. They was up there during the day so hopefully they was able to get some picts of them.
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I gave brief update on the wolves last month at our grange meeting, used the Lolo herd as an example of what may and can happen.....I was interrupted by a lady who insisted we only have hybrids here, and that the Lolo/Yellowstone herd decline is largely due to disease, not wolf predation..... :bash: :bash: :bash:
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Did you tell her where to go???
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Just heard two wolves the other night up hall creek. Definetly dont sound like yotes at all.
There is no mistaking that sound! I had a game warden tell me a few years ago that I was just hearing my neighbors Hybrids! My neighbors don't have any. There are no homes where I heard these anyway.
Where were the ones you heard? Have you posted any info about them?
I live 10 miles south of Newport Wa. I am right on the Idaho line. I see tracks of and on here and hear them howling at night. There is a Blanchard Area Road Management directly to the west of me. Large area, no homes so no pets to howl. Some of the locals say they have seen them also. I was out looking for moose sheds about a month ago and noticed 2 sets. Last year about this time I saw 3 sets following about a half dozen elk through my neighbors field. No doubt on them being wolf. The were as large as the elk tracks.
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Did you tell her where to go???
Nope......got the look from my wife, plus I knew she is as granola as they get, and it would be a wasted outburst......as I was at the point of no return that quick...... :bdid:
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For Campmeat and anybody else finding a suspect wolf track. Those tracks do look suspect only because they don't have the elongated two center toes. One can narrow it down by following the tracks till they leave the road. Every dog will wonder off the road for a while but come back again. A wolf will leave and just start heading cross country. If you follow the tracks a good long ways till you've decided he is not returning to the road you can pretty much count on it being a wolf. The two short center toes is not a posative difference but trailing and discovering the habits increases the chance of it. If Campmeat says there are no dogs in the area I would say he knows what he says and I would highly suspect it was wolves. Like he said, they did leave the road which is another indication it was not dogs. Dogs pee on the snow piles and stick to the road. Wolves head across country.
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I followed 4-5 sets of fresh wolf tracks today for ~5 miles on a road. They even bedded there. They had just come over from Idaho and were headed into the Pend Oreille Drainage. It's likely a group from the Diamond Pack.
I also saw wolf sign (3-5?) up north near Priest Lake- they were in WA but not by much. A freind in ID has been trapping hard and is hopeful to pick one of them out.
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I was catching up reading some of your replies. Those tracks that I took pictures of in my yard look exactly like the wolf tracks is saw 1 1/2 weeks ago west of Republic. That's 30 miles from my house by highway miles. I've showed my yard pictures to hunters/trappers I know from around here and their consent is, Wolf. The tracks don't have the elongated toes like the pictures you normally see. ????? What else could it be, it's not a dog for sure.
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When we hunted down by Swan Lake a few years ago (SW of Republic) we heard a wolf howling right before dark.
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Feb 23, 2011
My friend found these fresh wolf tracks, it had snowed in the morning, 4 adult wolves traveling together in high remote country, Northport side (eastside) of GMU 105.
also posted in this topic: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=93108.msg1193369;topicseen#new
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Feb 23, 2011
My friend found these fresh wolf tracks, it had snowed in the morning, 4 adult wolves traveling together in high remote country, Northport side (eastside) of GMU 105.
also posted in this topic: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=93108.msg1193369;topicseen#new
With the distance they have seen that these animals and packs can travel they will never be able to tell how many breeding packs are here. Just depends on what day they count them. Hunting as we know it is gone!
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Puts a whole new meaning to walking in to your honey hole an hour before light........
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This is an older article but, shows we're being watched. The conservation group read posts here then decided to go looking for the Teannaway Pack. I remember posting my story here a long time ago about having an encounter on lake Cle Elum. Nobody thought it was possible. Here we are today years later.
http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/2011/07/05/state-s-fourth-wolf-pack-identified-in-teanaway-area
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why do you think archers can now carry a side arm ? not for bunnies
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March 3, 2012
GMU 105 (northport side) My trapper friend had 3, maybe 4 wolves responding to a howler.
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Talked to a buddy this morning, said he found a mule deer wolf kill on his property on the Pend Oreille river. He rode his ranger up the hill and messed around a couple hours, came back by and there was fresh wolf tracks in his ranger tracks. :bash: he's gonna send me some pics, I'll post 'em up when I get them.
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Martorello has contacted me and wants to include our database of wolf sightings in the WDFW Online WOLF SIGHTINGS MAP. I need everyone to try and identify which Township, Range, and Section number of their sighting. Please log into the Wolf Reports and post that info.
This is important, Martorello said the data base will give biologists ideas where to search for wolves. If we want to get all these wolves documented we need to provide the information they need.
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http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-spot-a-wolf-go-online-20120309,0,3638924.story
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If everyone will post the gps coordinates or a Township/Range/Section of their sightings in this topic or pm the info to me, I will give that info to the state. I have to go thru this whole log of sightings and try to get info so they can put a pin on their online map.
Use this map tool to pinpoint coordinates: http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html
(use map or satellite view, move the red pin to where you had the sighting, right click on the pin and it gives the coordinates)
Copy and paste the coordinates here with your sighting info.
This is truly important so that we can get these wolves documented.
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Latitude 48.697472
Longitude -120.322942
Oct 2010 1 Gray wolf in the open on the side hill. Watched for almost 10 minutes.
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Latitude 48.697472
Longitude -120.322942
Oct 2010 1 Gray wolf in the open on the side hill. Watched for almost 10 minutes.
Thanks much, I added your data... :tup:
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why do you think archers can now carry a side arm ? not for bunnies
Haha, I wish the state felt that way. The right to defend ourselves or property from other people is why archers can carry. To much crime in the mountains these days. Drugs,vehicle theft and vandalism..
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Gosh, I forgot to add a "sighting" this fall... It was late October, south of Spokane, probably officially in the Palouse; no houses for miles, I found a canine skull; correct size to be a wolf and highly unlikely it was a dog that far away from roads, houses, etc... It was on private property... I perform research plots for the forest service on all lands... public and private but cannot release the exact location because of the privacy agreement we sign. :dunno: It was probably a year old; no other bones or evidence was around. There was one spot it could have been visible from a private road and perhaps shot and left... the teeth had medium wear.
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Not sure if it has been updated on here but one of the recent wolf sightings around Nespelem, WA on the Colville Reservation was a DNA'd and is a hybrid. Just thought I'd let people know this is what I heard, I work for the Tribes Fish & Wildlife and can confirm it with one of our biologists but that's what I was told from a reliable source.
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Thursday April 5 top of clockum where the three way intersection splits from brushy, bruton and the reserve. Fresh running elk tracks with at least 4-5 wolve tracks following. Old timer pocket knife ( 4inches in length) fits inside the pads of three them.
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Gosh, I forgot to add a "sighting" this fall... It was late October, south of Spokane, probably officially in the Palouse; no houses for miles, I found a canine skull; correct size to be a wolf and highly unlikely it was a dog that far away from roads, houses, etc... It was on private property... I perform research plots for the forest service on all lands... public and private but cannot release the exact location because of the privacy agreement we sign. :dunno: It was probably a year old; no other bones or evidence was around. There was one spot it could have been visible from a private road and perhaps shot and left... the teeth had medium wear.
Hirshey, can you offer a GMU?
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Not sure if it has been updated on here but one of the recent wolf sightings around Nespelem, WA on the Colville Reservation was a DNA'd and is a hybrid. Just thought I'd let people know this is what I heard, I work for the Tribes Fish & Wildlife and can confirm it with one of our biologists but that's what I was told from a reliable source.
BuckNAze, welcome to the forum, and thanks for posting about that sighting. Please let us know what's true. I hope the tribe will try to eliminate any hybrids, it would be even worse to have hybrids out there breeding.
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Gosh, I forgot to add a "sighting" this fall... It was late October, south of Spokane, probably officially in the Palouse; no houses for miles, I found a canine skull; correct size to be a wolf and highly unlikely it was a dog that far away from roads, houses, etc... It was on private property... I perform research plots for the forest service on all lands... public and private but cannot release the exact location because of the privacy agreement we sign. :dunno: It was probably a year old; no other bones or evidence was around. There was one spot it could have been visible from a private road and perhaps shot and left... the teeth had medium wear.
Hirshey, can you offer a GMU?
Looks like the eastern portion of GMU 139 Steptoe.
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Hirshey and Bearpaw, I also reported seeing wolf tracks in the eastern portion of 139 in November.
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It seems quite a few of the wolf sightings are hybrids. How is they going to affect the beloved gray wolf they want to have back here. Isn't this going to contaminate the gene pool when they start mixing in with the wolves.
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Ive heardabout a number of sightings from the steptoe area
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Hirshey and Bearpaw, I also reported seeing wolf tracks in the eastern portion of 139 in November.
:tup: I hadn't remembered... makes sense, though; right on the Idaho border... not like they claim residency to a single state.. and there are a lot of whitetail and turkies in the area to chomp on.
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It seems quite a few of the wolf sightings are hybrids. How is they going to affect the beloved gray wolf they want to have back here. Isn't this going to contaminate the gene pool when they start mixing in with the wolves.
In one way it's bad for changing the genetics and habits of wolves, on the other hand, I don't think hybrids are protected.... :dunno:
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It seems quite a few of the wolf sightings are hybrids. How is they going to affect the beloved gray wolf they want to have back here. Isn't this going to contaminate the gene pool when they start mixing in with the wolves.
In one way it's bad for changing the genetics and habits of wolves, on the other hand, I don't think hybrids are protected.... :dunno:
Yeah but how many people are going to roll the dice and shoot one to find out?
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updated my post with gps coordinates.
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GMU 117 - Cooks Mountain
Latitude, Longitude: 48.220151546854055, -117.11974829435349
1 large adult wolf gray in color
Date: 04/12/2012 1:30 PM
Wife was playing with Kids in back yard spotted wolf watching them @ 70 yards. My wife did a research paper this winter on the importance of hunting wolfs for college. She knows what one looks like. I live in the country only 10 or so houses around and I know what all different dogs in the area are, no hybrid of dogs matching description of the dog my wife seen. She said it looked to be bigger than my 100 lbs Lab. I wrote it off as possible hybrid. But then this weekend I went to my cousin birthday party and one of my neighbors 2 miles down the road was there and said his neighbor next to him said they saw 2 adult wolfs the day before My wife did. This has already been reported to Fish and Game
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It seems quite a few of the wolf sightings are hybrids. How is they going to affect the beloved gray wolf they want to have back here. Isn't this going to contaminate the gene pool when they start mixing in with the wolves.
In one way it's bad for changing the genetics and habits of wolves, on the other hand, I don't think hybrids are protected.... :dunno:
They want the wolf back here not cross breeds. Once the gene pool is polluted with the hybrids that are now running loose we will have nothing more that packs of wild dogs. Large wild dogs that will not have much fear of humans.
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Maybe that's what needs to happen since hybrids can't legally be protected, nor should they manage for hybrids so if the whole gene pool becomes hybrids then.........?
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Maybe that's what needs to happen since hybrids can't legally be protected, nor should they manage for hybrids so if the whole gene pool becomes hybrids then.........?
Then what? Smoke a pack a day!
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Asked one of our biologist and head of Fish and Wildlife what would happen to the hybrid since it was a confirmed hybrid. I was told they will be doing some trapping soon to collar the wolves thehy can capture, once they trap the hybrid they will collar it and send DNA back for all the wolves they trap and any they record that are hybrids will be destroyed but they need to confirm whatever is a hybrid, or if there are any more.
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Asked one of our biologist and head of Fish and Wildlife what would happen to the hybrid since it was a confirmed hybrid. I was told they will be doing some trapping soon to collar the wolves thehy can capture, once they trap the hybrid they will collar it and send DNA back for all the wolves they trap and any they record that are hybrids will be destroyed but they need to confirm whatever is a hybrid, or if there are any more.
Glad to hear that we have a responsible wildlife agency in this state that is doing the right thing. :tup:
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They said there should be hunting regs for wolves this fall for the books. Sounds like they are leaning towards a quota system, there being 4 districts for the reservation they will give so many tags per district. They havent set a # yet or anything but they are going to give out more then obviously they want harvested because they know each tag holder wont be sucessful. Be interesting to see how it all pans out, I was also told our tribal council agrees we are a subsistance tribe first, meaning to support our members and our own food needs. I usually only go to our office every month or so to pick up my check but will talk to the biologist some more, plus the head of fish & wildlife if any more details come up. Not sure how the hunting on the north half will be regulated by us or how many tags we will be allowed up there since they arent federally regulated and we are still allowed hunting rights up there. I forgot to ask them that yesterday.
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I am certainly supporting a tribal wolf hunt on the north half. Hope your director is successful in getting that season. :tup:
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The tribe will be capturing and collaring wolves sometime in the near future to do our own tracking of when we establish a breeding pair and how many are actually pure wolves and which are hybrids (one known). All wolves/hybrids will be collared and when the DNA evidence comes back on which ones are hybrids they will be disposed of accordingly. This collaring should help with the wolf count and figuring how many we have here as well as how many more the state itself has.
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Asked one of our biologist and head of Fish and Wildlife what would happen to the hybrid since it was a confirmed hybrid. I was told they will be doing some trapping soon to collar the wolves thehy can capture, once they trap the hybrid they will collar it and send DNA back for all the wolves they trap and any they record that are hybrids will be destroyed but they need to confirm whatever is a hybrid, or if there are any more.
Glad to hear that we have a responsible wildlife agency in this state that is doing the right thing. :tup:
That's the difference of a populace that doesn't whine and cry about consuptive use of animals. The tribes are good that way- they see animals as a renewable resource that can be used sensibly. Emotions aside.
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Asked one of our biologist and head of Fish and Wildlife what would happen to the hybrid since it was a confirmed hybrid. I was told they will be doing some trapping soon to collar the wolves thehy can capture, once they trap the hybrid they will collar it and send DNA back for all the wolves they trap and any they record that are hybrids will be destroyed but they need to confirm whatever is a hybrid, or if there are any more.
Glad to hear that we have a responsible wildlife agency in this state that is doing the right thing. :tup:
That's the difference of a populace that doesn't whine and cry about consuptive use of animals. The tribes are good that way- they see animals as a renewable resource that can be used sensibly. Emotions aside.
Yes, I completely agree.... :tup:
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Not confirmed yet but here is a picture of one in the Swawilla Basin area on our Reservation not far from where I live. I've notified our Fish & Wildlife and hopefully can get more details from the picture takers.
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23 Mile in the Sanpoil area
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that's some good news for the brothers to the North. :tup: Start it off and hopefully others will follow. :tup:
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Not confirmed yet but here is a picture of one in the Swawilla Basin area on our Reservation not far from where I live. I've notified our Fish & Wildlife and hopefully can get more details from the picture takers.
i know the people that took this picture on there cattle ranch, i saw it posted on facebook and asked if i could share it on this website and tell where it was from, they didnt want me to but looks like you took care of it :tup: all i wanted to do was document it.
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"23 Mile in the Sanpoil area"???
So that picture was north of Keller about 20-30 miles?
Wasn't their some wolf sighting reported in the Aeneas area, wonder if that could be from the same pack.
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Not sure if its wolf or not but this was taken the first full weekend of turkey season on Lookout Mtn out of Cle Elum. From talking to the land owners in there is that there are quite a few wolves in there
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Got another wolf report, but it's only 2 tracks in two different areas. Near Malo Washington. One set up Aeneas Crk and the other up St. Peters Crk.
These could be the same wolf, but who knows. They were maybe 3-5 miles apart.
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I saw one fresh track of a large canine up near the top of Aeneos Creek near Malo on 05/06/2012. I had driven up the road the day before and there was no track. No other vehicles had driven there so it most likely was not someones dog. There are no houses within miles.
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I saw one fresh track of a large canine up near the top of Aeneos Creek near Malo on 05/06/2012. I had driven up the road the day before and there was no track. No other vehicles had driven there so it most likely was not someones dog. There are no houses within miles.
I bet we're talking about the same one.
No dead bear huh ?
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GMU 101-Ferry county
On nine mile creek. Large tracks in the mud, could be a very large dog you guys decide as I'm no expert.
Also, on May 14th, 2012 in the evening while sitting in camp I heard a low pitched howl that lasted what seemed like forever. It was very eerie and know doubt in my mind that it was a wolf. It was coming from bear pot trail area between Granite mt. and Bear mt. Our camp location is same as above tracks.
I realize these aren't the best pictures.
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Eyeguard and his brother were in the wenaha this last weekend trying to fill his spring bear tag and spotted at least 2 wolves. His brother cow called and the wolves closed the 600 yard gap to about 100 yards in moments. They busted them and started barking and howling... He has photo and video but I'm on a fire in Arizona so won't have them until I get home. He saw only 3 elk that weekend. Wolves are definitely in the blues.
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i belive i seen one up above joe watt last weekend but not sure. i have never seen a wolf in the wild but it was about 300 yards out. thought it was a coyote until i put the binos up and yep it was way to big to be a coyote. it was only about a 10 second window to see it before it went back in the trees so i didnt have enough time to get to the camra and set it up.
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Last year we heard howls. Sounded like the wolves down the road from here at home. Wolf Haven. Also friend spoke with few hunters who claimed to see 5 take down open range cow at winter feeding field on trout creek rd. Howls sounded like marble mnt. area., granite creek drainage. West 101 close to 204 border, north of hwy 20.
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Tracks and $hit (filled with elk hair) up Timberwolf. 7/6/2012. Goose Prairie.
Tracks and $hit(also filled with elk hair) up Red Top Mountain ( North Fork Teanaway) 7/2012. Interesting enough, marked with ribbon the next day.
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A quick question on the "hybrids", can you shoot them or are they protected like a wolf?
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A quick question on the "hybrids", can you shoot them or are they protected like a wolf?
That is a good question.
Hybrids obviously are not wolves and are not protected by the endangered species act or by Washington state law as wolves but there may be some other law that come into play, I think it's illegal to harm cats or dogs, I'm not sure but this is a good question. Additionally, how do you determine for sure at the moment you pull the trigger, whether the animal in your sights is a wolf or a hybrid?
In my opinion it should be a top priority of WDFW to trap these "supposed" hybrids, collar the animal and release it, test the blood, and upon confirmation that an animnal is a hybrid, then track it down with the collar and kill it.
The worse thing that could happen is for hybrids to breed with wild wolves and dillute the genetic integrity of wolves. Numerous traits could be altered in the wolf population which could increase the potential for livestock losses and even wolf/human confrontations.
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Good post Bearpaw..... Was actually wondering the same thing..... Now we know there is no answer.....
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Okay, I'm chiming in. I used to raise hogs east of Sedro-Woolley and had a lot of problems with coyotes harassing pigs and chickens. I started carrying my Marlin .22 to dispatch the critters whenever I could legitimately claim they were bugging my live-stock. On my way out to my pigs one morning I saw what at first sight seemed to be the BIGGEST coyote I'd ever seen. I hopped out of my truck and glassed it...this was NOT a coyote! Had to be a grey wolf. At least twice the size of your average coyote. No pictures of him (or her) or tracks so all I have is my best guess. But I was born and raised in Southern California and coyotes were an every afternoon visitor to our farm. I have a LOT of experience with them and that was not a coyote. This was in the spring of 2010 in Sedro, so I think that's GMU 418. This was approximately four miles east of Sedro on the south side of HWY 20. (Minkler lake area). Seeing as I'm not an expert I wouldn't bet any of my anatomy on it, but I'm personally convinced as to what I saw.
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Here is a sighting posted to another forum I visit:
Yesterday, I went fishing up the Middle Fork of the Snoqualmie with my family. I was up river about 300 yards from where my family was hanging out playing on the shore of the river. I was working my way back downstream when my wife starts yelling and making gestures that there was an animal off in the bushes. I was thinking a black bear but when I got within hearing range she says "it was a really big grey dog with a thick coat and very bushy tail". By her account ( I never saw it), the animal was on the edge of the high water mark about 50 yards away between her and the road. When she saw the animal moving at a fast pace up river she called the kids in behind her, it stopped and stared at her for a few seconds, and then continued up river through the washout. The animal never threatened her or the kids. My pistol was sitting on a towel about 5 feet away from her but she was so freaked I bet if it had threatened her she would have probably thrown rocks and forgotten about the gun.
She has seen plenty of coyotes from a far and as close as ten yards and she is convinced this was not a coyote. Later that night she looked at a lot of the WDFW wolf game camera images and she is convinced it was a wolf.
As a crow flies the western edge of the Teanaway Wolf pack is no more than 50 miles from wher we were and with the Taylor Bridge fire pushing a lot of animals around I wonder if there are wolves pushing west. We know it's only a matter of time before they make it over the Cascades to find the deer and elk populations (hello North Bend) to their liking but I always guessed it would be another year before we heard anecdotal reports and 2 years before the WDFW would acknowledge a western wolf presence. After yesterday I am pretty sure they are already here.
We have reported this to the WFDW via the web tool today.
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Has our infromation ever been shared with this site? http://northwestwolfsightings.org (http://northwestwolfsightings.org) It lookied like there were not very many pin marks on the map in the NE or NC wa???
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I have been hunting the Chiwawa unit for 50 yrs, and have shot some nice bucks. The past 5 years the herds have been on a fast decline. 2 years ago i found out why, heard and seen 3 wolves several times in clear cuts and in and around the 94-95 burn. Oh by the way i only seen one deer last year, and i will be looking to other areas.
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Had my first run in with with wolves in unit 111. I had planned a 3-day pack in hunt with my uncle. We hiked in Friday evening just in time to do some spotting before the opener, saw a couple piles of wolf sh*t on the way in but didn't worry too much about it. Saw some in the area last year too.
That evening spotting we did not see any deer, moose or elk... Just one big black bear. so we set up camp. come first light we set up at our spotting location. We sat there for nearly 2 hours and did not see anything.
I heard something walking up the ridge behind and directly down wind from us so I turned around grabbed my bow and started to knock an arrow... I could see a little movement so I peaked up over the huckleberry brush and saw a black head and ears only 18 yards away. I initially thought it was a small black bear. when it saw me it let off a "woof" and moved off to my left and another ran up in it's place. I was still thinking bear at this point as I had only seen there faces thru the brush. then I stood up and got a full picture of 2 black wolves. So I dropped the bow and pulled out my pistol.
Those 2 started barking and howling at us and moved around to our left out of sight. then 3 others also all black ran thru the same opening the other 2 exited thru and circled around below us. The brush was thick so could not see them at this point but they basically surrounded 3 sides of us barking and howling. after about 10 min or so they finally wandered off.
Not a pleasant experience, wish I would have realized they were wolves when I could have put my sights on one and whacked it!! Ruined our hunt, we finished out the day spotting up there and saw nothing.. :bash: :bash:
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Hadmy boss get a pic of 3 wolf pups on his game trail camera. 2 black and one grayish. They were Probly 35-40lbs. Also had another one collared on our reservation north of nespelem
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Good chance of hearing howling on the north end of Cameron road in 127 right now.
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Wolf howls in asnwer to bugles in the Taneum (GMU 336). GPS coordinates sent to WDFW. As the crow flies about 12 miles from Easton.
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A buddie of mine ran into a couple of fellows up in the stamped pass area a few weeks ago said they were federal agents conducting a coyote study setting up game camera sites trying to locate packs of the critters, their story didnt pass the smell test so he didnt offer them any information, if there are wolfs in this area you would think gaining the turst of the locals would be something these so called wolf experts would want to persue, not the smartest bunch of city slickers.
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A buddie of mine ran into a couple of fellows up in the stamped pass area a few weeks ago said they were federal agents conducting a coyote study setting up game camera sites trying to locate packs of the critters, their story didnt pass the smell test so he didnt offer them any information, if there are wolfs in this area you would think gaining the turst of the locals would be something these so called wolf experts would want to persue, not the smartest bunch of city slickers.
A few weeks ago on the Rob Endsley radio show a WDFW official said they had had tranqued one near Snoqualmie Summit.
I saw some pretty big "dog" skat on a old logging spur above lake Kachess last weekend. Some of it marked on top of bear skat.
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just seen a wolf yesterday here in malo washington a black and grey one about 120-130 pounds walking up the road right to us we live in unit 101 he had his tongue out and tail between his llegs like he had just got done chasing something, we were up sout for of st peters creek back up by mt leona, and the cross over to lambert creek.
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just seen a wolf yesterday here in malo washington a black and grey one about 120-130 pounds walking up the road right to us
Can you please provide a drainage or mountain so we can add this to our totals. THANKS
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Ran into 2 bowhunters today that have a cabin off of Cougar Creek near the old town of Bodie. He said they saw a lone wolf up there last year while bowhunting.
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Wolf on trail cam, Unit 113, GPS 48*32'49.60" N 117*13'54.80" W. Also saw several tracks in the drainage in multiple areas.
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My dad swears two wolves ran across the road in front of him while he was sitting in his truck at sunrise on Oct. 1, 2007 up Milk Creek road a couple miles below Milk Lake. I would hope he could tell the difference between them and yotes. He has seen wolves before when we were in Montana. Had a pack of 7 to 10 run by us chasing a deer and fawn less than 70 yards away oblivious to our presence.
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We need every wolf report, even from previous years, but the reports are useless without some basic info:
Date
Sighting, Tracks, Howling?
How many?
GMU (game management unit)
Drainage or Mountain
Post Any Photos
WDFW also wants cordinates, get them here: http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/)
Please include the above info, THANKS.
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Any way I saw wolf tracks in the ONP two weeks ago.
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Talked to a Border Patrol Agent today. He said another agen saw a wolf near Bolster Rd in Chesaw this year. Also, agents have seen 2 wolves near the " Wedge Pack ", area, but that's a given.
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I heard a lone wolf last night about one mile north of Tiger Meadow in Stevens County. He/She was responding to a pack of wolves that were even further north. We have been working in that area over the past couple of months and there have been a couple of reported sightings and people have definitely been hearing them.
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Hey fellas,
Was back and forth on weather I should share these pics....
I was out in one of my normal areas and was scanning the road for cougar/ bear tracks... and came across these monsters... the pics really don't do them Justis, standing there and seeing dog tracks that were 2-3 times size of any dog track I have ever seen... and seeing the distance between foot tracks, looked like the size of a horse.... really erry... I fallowed the tracks for about 3/4 mi. the tracks, would fallow road, dip into timber for 20-75 yards then back into timber... then dissipated N. into timber....
These tracks were not very far outside of Leavenworth.
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:yike:
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:yeah:
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Met up with Mudman today and his buddy saw a wolf west of Maple Mtn off of Trout Creek Rd at 7:30 am this morning. They also said 3-5 wolves were howling last night on Maple Mtn across from their camp. I told Mudman to give a better report. ( they also have pictures of a Grizzly Bear paw print )
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Ok, I will get right to it. Friend Saw skinny dark color blackish wolf running in field where cattle are fed off of trout creek rd north of stormking mnt.. The date 9-21. While I was harvesting bear hiking out at about 9pm a wolf howled long cry about 200yards directly across creek bottom we were coming out of. Date 9-19. On the nite of 9=19 and 9-20 2 to 4 wolves herd howling from maple mnt at about 10pm. Grizzly bear spotted chasing small 180ilb black bear out of bottom. Friend was on quad and looked down to see large brown bear chasing black bear across road he was on 20ft in front of him. He said brown bear saw him and turned and ran back down, black stopped on road looked at him and continued up hill. He left quickly on his quad. He grew up locally and knows bear well, His stepdad has 450lb color bear mounted and he was on that hunt. He knows bears well and says "I dont know for sure I saw Grizz but thats the biggest damn bear i ever seen" He guess weight and size of 600lbs and head very large. Another buddie hunting with us hiked the ridge with the big bear and found fresh large print crossing trail and took pictures I will try to get on here. It is about 7-9inches wide and 7-10 long. Also the bottom is a graveyard for deer, not sure if black bear kill mature deer that often? Gods country. 101unit.
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About the grizz.. Glad I'm not the only crazy man alive.. 3 weeks ago while hunting bear in the south cascades west of Oldman Pass my partner and I watched a silver colored grizz for prolly 10 minutes. No doubt about what we saw. Both of us have killed and are familiar with the fact Washington has a very healthy population of color phase bear. You can't tell us it wasn't. Size prolly in the 450lb range tops.. Figure since nearly all bears look bigger than they are it's at least a 350lb bear.
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A friend was bear hunting up by Sullivan Pond which is northeast of Winthrop about 3 miles as the crow flies. He walked in what he said was 3 miles which takes him to almost boulder creek but not quite. He sat down and used his rabbit call to see if he could get a bear to come in. Soon 3 wolves showed up. He was startled and said it was definitely wolves. He said they circled him and were making calls back and forth like they were talking to each other with little grunts and hoots. These have not been reported on this site I don't believe but others have told me they've seen wolves up Boulder creek this spring. This is not the Lookout Pack.
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Right in the heart of my buddies cattle.....
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Went to Davenport this afternoon to watch my Grandson play football. Talking to
my son-in-law about hunting and he said that some PUD linemen reported seeing
two wolves north of his parents home. My son-in-law farms NE of Davenport. His
parents live about 4-5 miles east of him. I will be seeing him again Sunday and will
try to get a little more info if he knows more. He said he was going to start carrying
a rifle. I told him to also take a shovel.
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Still out of state working however talked to my neighbor yesterday and he told me that he was going over the Orient cut off road on the way to coffee at the store and saw the black wolf that I had seen. He is reliable so trust his report. About 10 am near the First Thought road, Stevens county.
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I was up the Teanaway valley today about 3 miles in from the main road for muzzy Deer, I wasn't seeing much and was thinking about moving to another area just because in past years you would expect to see quite a few deer, at least a dozen or so does by noon, but when I started getting into lots of fresh elk sign and a bull started bugling I figured why not see how big this bull was, I moved down wind and slowly got into an opening and waited for the show, all of a sudden the herd exploded out of there pocket of trees and headed to another county, I thought that they must have winded me until all of a sudden what sounded like at least 10 wolfs started howling, I knew immediately that what had happened was I spoiled there hunt, the howling lasted about 30 seconds and then nothing but silence, eather I stumbled into there den or they already had a kill down, eather way I got out of there with no other encounter.
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Thank you guys for posting
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Talked fo a friend today and said he saw a wolf on the south fork of St. Peters Creek 2 weeks ago here in Ferry County.
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Got a call from my mother in law in pomeroy this morning. She watched a grey wolf chase 2 whitetails out of the canyon, through the wheat and into her pasture about 90 yards from her house while she watched it all go down. The deer outran the wolf. He ran up onto the road where he stood staring at her guard llama for a few minutes. He then wandered off across the road through the wheat. This was in 178 peola GMU.
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My bro-in-laws brother was out elk hunting yesterday on the north boundry of the Spokane Indian Reservation and ran into some of the Huckleberry pack.
He said he could hear something coming towards him through the brush so he got ready thinking it might possibly be some elk. He said a big dark grey one came in and stopped at about 12yds, sensed something not right then turned around and left. Then shortly after a different one came in and stopped 15-20yds away, made eye contact for a few seconds then turned around and left with 3 young ones following behind.
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Did not actually see them but found the tracks on a cattle trail 30 yards from my tent on Thursday morning(10/04/12). All about the size of my wallet, 4.5" long. Here is a pic of the most clear track. Lone tracks spaced far apart, them a bunch of them together. This was in LT. Murray area, Manastash GMU340, Observatory Road, down low. Tracks were not there when I went to sleep, found them at first light.
Reported to WDFW.
I'm no expert - maybe a bunch of large yotes?
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:yike:
Hey fellas,
Was back and forth on weather I should share these pics....
I was out in one of my normal areas and was scanning the road for cougar/ bear tracks... and came across these monsters... the pics really don't do them Justis, standing there and seeing dog tracks that were 2-3 times size of any dog track I have ever seen... and seeing the distance between foot tracks, looked like the size of a horse.... really erry... I fallowed the tracks for about 3/4 mi. the tracks, would fallow road, dip into timber for 20-75 yards then back into timber... then dissipated N. into timber....
These tracks were not very far outside of Leavenworth.
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Did not actually see them but found the tracks on a cattle trail 30 yards from my tent on Thursday morning(10/04/12). All about the size of my wallet, 4.5" long. Here is a pic of the most clear track. Lone tracks spaced far apart, them a bunch of them together. This was in LT. Murray area, Manastash GMU340, Observatory Road, down low. Tracks were not there when I went to sleep, found them at first light.
Reported to WDFW.
I'm no expert - maybe a bunch of large yotes?
Coyote.
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I was with a tribal member this weekend picking up litter with our ATV club. He lives out of Omak. He told me the tribe has identified 3 separate packs with 25 wolves in each pack, He said the packs were south of Republic/Hall Creek areas and further south and down in Hell's Gate. I don't know if it's true or not, but he doesn't have a reason to stretch the truth. Can anyone confirm it or heard rumors to the liking.
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Did not actually see them but found the tracks on a cattle trail 30 yards from my tent on Thursday morning(10/04/12). All about the size of my wallet, 4.5" long. Here is a pic of the most clear track. Lone tracks spaced far apart, them a bunch of them together. This was in LT. Murray area, Manastash GMU340, Observatory Road, down low. Tracks were not there when I went to sleep, found them at first light.
Reported to WDFW.
I'm no expert - maybe a bunch of large yotes?
Coyote.
I don't think coyotes make 4.5" long tracks. Coyote tracks are typically between 2" and 3" in length. How could this be a coyote?
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I was with a tribal member this weekend picking up litter with our ATV club. He lives out of Omak. He told me the tribe has identified 3 separate packs with 25 wolves in each pack, He said the packs were south of Republic/Hall Creek areas and further south and down in Hell's Gate. I don't know if it's true or not, but he doesn't have a reason to stretch the truth. Can anyone confirm it or heard rumors to the liking.
I would'nt argue with the three seperate packs. But 25 in each pack? That sounds a little far fetched!
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I was with a tribal member this weekend picking up litter with our ATV club. He lives out of Omak. He told me the tribe has identified 3 separate packs with 25 wolves in each pack, He said the packs were south of Republic/Hall Creek areas and further south and down in Hell's Gate. I don't know if it's true or not, but he doesn't have a reason to stretch the truth. Can anyone confirm it or heard rumors to the liking.
I would'nt argue with the three seperate packs. But 25 in each pack? That sounds a little far fetched!
I know. That would be on the news if it was true. Can't argue with someone when I don't know anything about it. Oh well !
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I was with a tribal member this weekend picking up litter with our ATV club. He lives out of Omak. He told me the tribe has identified 3 separate packs with 25 wolves in each pack, He said the packs were south of Republic/Hall Creek areas and further south and down in Hell's Gate. I don't know if it's true or not, but he doesn't have a reason to stretch the truth. Can anyone confirm it or heard rumors to the liking.
I would'nt argue with the three seperate packs. But 25 in each pack? That sounds a little far fetched!
I know. That would be on the news if it was true. Can't argue with someone when I don't know anything about it. Oh well !
as far as where he said the packs are hes pretty right on the money but as far as 25 i dout it they only got collars on 3
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Found out that his numbers are waay off, just like I thought. :tup:
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10/25/2012 in Falls River GMU #672 I saw what looked like a black wolf cross the road in front of my pickup. I was going to work and didn't stop to check for tracks. Wish I would have. Talked to the owner of area wolf crossed into about black dogs and there aren't any. Didn't look like a regular dog anyhow. Real long legs that left the biggest impression being how tall it was.
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1 wolf pup was hit by a car, 4 others ran away Hwy 25 near Evans , in September
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10/30/12 am. first gated rd to the Left going in on the 4610 (025?) this would be off the 46/skyline rd in the blues. lite grey wolf popped up on a log approx 25yds in front of me as i was working around some dead fall across the old rd. we both stared at each other for what seemed like forever but was probably only 30 secs & it jumped off the log in my direction. there was a lot of waist high growth in the area above the old rd & I lost sight of it. brought the gun up & backed back to the rd watching all around. at this point i was on the radio to my brother who had split from me at this y to let him know where i was & that i had a wolf on me & that i was working back out. he started back to where we split in case i got in trouble. After the forth time i called him to tell him this thing was siding me at no more than 30 yds his responce was "hey that thing is tracking you, shoot the SOB" well i didn't as it never showed an aggressive attitude & never crossed the"line" however it was in the scope a few times.
I was very wary on the way out, not knowing if it was alone or not but it was the only one i saw,don't know if i was being decoyed or not but when i got back to the gate & met with my bro & another hunter that had pulled up they both said it was a possability. never saw it again once i rounded the corner where i could see the orange of the other guys.
Was a very large, lite grey & seemed fluffed out. don't know if it was just curious, or i stunk to bad from the sweat that stated poring from me that it didn't want any part of me.
as far as the SSS deal goes, I'm glad i didn't have to kill it(as bad as i wanted to) because i wouldn't have been able to tell the story, my brother would have been in the same boat & it was allready out on the radio what was happening.
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on the same story, when we talked to the gamies at a check station at the entrance to the NF land,they told us when we reported that their were only a few fragmented animals in the state & not any established packs such as northern idaho
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gaddy, thankfully we had the opposite experience, when we were breaking down elk camp Sunday in GMU 340, we had an officer check us out and without prompting he went into a rant about how this wolf deal is a slow moving train wreck and was not at all happy with the situation. A really good guy, at least not all have drank the kool-aid.
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Good chance of hearing howling on the north end of Cameron road in 127 right now.
Can you provide any other info regaring this post? THANKS
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There was a probable Wolf sighting in western Washington brought up in another thread. Thought it should be added here.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,111753.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,111753.0.html)
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Does anyody know what the total confirmed pack number was as stated by WDFW this past Saturday during the GMAC meeting?
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Possible wolf sighting in Western Washington
« on: Today at 11:24:34 AM »
I was hunting elk in the Puyallup GMU clost to the Mud Mountain area about 3 / 4 miles out of Enemuclaw. I was watching a pair of deer (sm buck and doe) from a higher vantage point. The buck walked off quickly but the doe was staring hard off to her left. I continues to watch her for over 75 / 7 minutes and she did not move a muscle. . . FROZE. So I was determined to wait it out and see what had her undivided attention. Well, I got bored and stood up after another 5 minutes and there, standing on a log about 50 / 60 yards down to my left, was a huge, hairy, gray wolf ! ! ! I glassed it with my binocs as I could not believe what I was seeing. I have seen thousands of yotes and rogue dogs, but these were wolfs. Yes these, as there was also a redish brown one as well. they were doing the tag team to get that doe. Well I scared them off. When I did, they ran together than ran off, just as a mating pair would act. I contacted WDFW and they seem to think they are "wolf-dog" animals released by some other party? I think they are a new mating pair from the Teanaway pack and have sought out a new territory to call their own. The Teanaway pack is only slightly N/E of this location and wolfs will travel long distances to establish a new territory. So, has anybody else seen or heard of wolfs in the White Water area? I am going back VERY SOON with my movie camera and am going to put up trail cameras in the area to see if I can capture pics of the pair.
This was GMU #652 and the coord were N47 09.278 W121 56.085
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A friend of mine was playing frisbee golf near Greenwater this week and was attacked by what he described as a "thin mangy brown husky looking dog with big fangs". He is 6' 6" at it charged him, leapt 4 feet in the air, and bit him on the bicep. If he was shorter it would have been his throat. Could have been a stray or hybrid but I urged him to notify the WDFW.
Update 12/6 my friend talked to the WDFW. They said a breeder had let 20 hybrids go without food for several weeks and some of them escaped. This is what they think attacked him.
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More wolf pics from my trapper friend who WDFW should hire to document Washington's wolves. This guy has got the location of numerous undocumented wolves figured out, just in his spare time.
This is why we think there are 2 packs in GMU 105. Lots of sightings on the Northport (east) side and there are sightings on the Orient (west) side.
Nov 3, 2011 wolf picture is on the east side of GMU 105 near Northport.
Man your guy seems to really know his stuff. The WSDFW should hire him. My only questions would be the following......
What value can he bring the game department if they were to hire him? Don't they already have biologists tracking wolves down and accounting for them?
Say they hire him and confirm additional wolf packs. Are they going to do anything about the packs? My guess; probably not so they are not going to spend the little money they have to hire a guy to tell them stuff they probably already know.
I am not very educated on wolves, but I am curious to learn and read your thoughts on what is happening today and how you think they should manages wolves in the future. I would also like to read what you think will eventually happen in the future. Perhaps Wa becomes a draw state to kill a wolf.
As far as I am concerned. Kill every wolf in Wa. I don't want anything to do with wolves. If I see one and I feel I am in danger; I am going to take my chances with the game department and shoot it. I would rather be alive to explain why I shot it, then show up on the front page of the Seattle Times for getting shredded by the pack. Especially if I had my young boys with me. Family first...
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Went to the bank this morning and told them I was gonna go wolf hunting in Idaho soon. The gals pipes up and says, My husband saw 2 in the past couple weeks on Boulder Pass going to the shop. She said she thought it was the westside of the pass (Orient side). That's, maybe 5 miles sw of Orient. She will let me know where next time I see her.
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I noticed this wolf count hasn't increased for months now. I'm under the impression whoever (I think isDale) has given up on keeping track. All of the packs have their pups running with them now. The Lookout Pack had two pups that made it to grown up size so instead of the two, there are now 4. A month ago the two pups were just a little smaller than the female (mom) and tagging close. The male wasn't with them when spotted but I know a hunter that did see all 4 together. Multiple tracks have been seen in the Methow this summer many miles from the Lookout Pack but only one sighting was reported to me and that was up by Sullivan Pond in the Pearrygin unit. A bear hunter had 3 big wolves come in on him when he was calling in bear with his rabbit call in Sept.. WDFW seems to want pictures, scat and dna samples and even then they won't believe it till they trap one. By that time the pack has grown to 8 or more. It does appear they are stepping up to reports and do some checking, unlike 4 yrs. ago when they just turned a deaf ear. I'd say Dales count of 158 is still a ways behind the actual number.
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I have reported 2 wolf sightings out of Tampico in unit 368 to WDFW one was a gray phase the other a black phase both wolves were up in the Ewe Neck. Did see a calf elk that had been killed recently in the very near vicinity of where the gray phase was seen. We were told by the locals that there were no wolves in the area according to WDFW ummm yeah nice try kids as many of the camps in there had seen tracks or the actual critters.
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i have hunted randle up by cyspus for the last three years and every year have seen more and more wolf tracks and sign last year i saw wolf chashing a doe thru the snow.
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I noticed this wolf count hasn't increased for months now. I'm under the impression whoever (I think isDale) has given up on keeping track. All of the packs have their pups running with them now. The Lookout Pack had two pups that made it to grown up size so instead of the two, there are now 4. A month ago the two pups were just a little smaller than the female (mom) and tagging close. The male wasn't with them when spotted but I know a hunter that did see all 4 together. Multiple tracks have been seen in the Methow this summer many miles from the Lookout Pack but only one sighting was reported to me and that was up by Sullivan Pond in the Pearrygin unit. A bear hunter had 3 big wolves come in on him when he was calling in bear with his rabbit call in Sept.. WDFW seems to want pictures, scat and dna samples and even then they won't believe it till they trap one. By that time the pack has grown to 8 or more. It does appear they are stepping up to reports and do some checking, unlike 4 yrs. ago when they just turned a deaf ear. I'd say Dales count of 158 is still a ways behind the actual number.
Everyone, please keep reporting your wolf sightings here. This is the best way to keep WDFW somewhat accountable on wolf sightings. This topic currently has over 57,000 views.
I have been busy, but when I get time I will go through this topic and update the wolf count. :tup: :tup: :tup:
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I can't report any more they shot all of the Wedge pack!! :sry:
I read it in the paper
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i have hunted randle up by cyspus for the last three years and every year have seen more and more wolf tracks and sign last year i saw wolf chashing a doe thru the snow.
Dosent surprise me at all, with all the sightings in bordering 300 units, but this is the first i've heard of wolves west of the PCT
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I saw HUGE K-9 tracks up on a ridge in Coweeman last weekend, Looked like wolf tracks to me..
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i have hunted randle up by cyspus for the last three years and every year have seen more and more wolf tracks and sign last year i saw wolf chashing a doe thru the snow.
Dosent surprise me at all, with all the sightings in bordering 300 units, but this is the first i've heard of wolves west of the PCT
I previously posted of a sighting near North Bend and saw lots of scat this fall grouse hunting up near Gold Creek off Snoqualmie Pass.
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Talked to my stepdad today and he was telling me he saw a really big dog, almost twice the size of a german sheppard, dark hair on its back and lighter towards the stomach. Biggest dog he had ever seen. It was this weekend and he was snowmobiling in about 2 feet of snow just south and east of Reecer Creek road and Wilson Creek Road intersection of GMU 328, this would be a little closer towards Ellensburg from Lions Rock if you know the area, right at the edge of the bun area. He said it was running across the road and moving very well in the deep snow. He was just amazed at how big it was and thought it must be a wolf. I told him it probably was and that I had heard rumors from two other property owners in the area seeing what they thought were wolves also.
Not a good sign, I will be keeping the kids closer to my cabin and not letting them roam so much.
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One of my buddy live in Wentachee and he talked to me that he know a guy that got wolves on his webcam and its a pregnant female wolf confirmed by Fish/wildlife what he said. Also There are three others wolves that F/G are tracking too. I am wait to hear more from buddy, his friend Rancher, or Fish/game soon.
There possible new pack could hang out "SouthWest of Wentachee" Between Jumpoff ridge all way to Horse lake Mt somewhere around there. Female Wolf might birth new pups soon somewhere between..... :)
I will get more info if I hear from him with new info or WDFW possible post their website soon. I could be wrong.
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To confirm mulehunter, I cut one lone fresh track in the mission unit several days ago. I passed along the photo and exact location to a bio that works for WDFW.
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On 11/29/12 I found a wolf eating a whitetail doe I shot the night before in the sinlahekin.
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On 11/29/12 I found a wolf eating a whitetail doe I shot the night before in the sinlahekin.
What part of the sinlahekin?
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over the summer me and my cousins decided to go up to heather meadows at the mt baker ski area (unit 418) and it was early june so there was a decent amount of snow left and we were tracking a cougar through the snow when my cousin asked about these coyote tracks and i looked and they were no coyote tracks they were about 4 1/2 inches long. yes this area does get a lot of hikers and dogs but it is also by the wilderness area and there were no boot tracks and didnt look like dog tracks (i have a 140 pound american bulldog so i know what big dog tracks look like) just thought id chip in
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I am really sorry for the poor quality pictures, I couldn't get a decent one to take. If I tried to include anything with the snow in this pic, the "smart" camera ruined the outline of the track.
on 12-12-12, a few miles north of the Kelly Hill Cemetary, I watched a lone black wolf lope across the highway in front of me and stop briefly in a cattle field. He/she left quickly, circling behind a small group of cattle and disappearing. I got a blurry picture just a second too late and all you can see are the cows.
Not a melanistic coyote, I know a 100+ lb canine when I see it. This thing was big.
This picture was taken in the ditch where it crossed N Pierre Lake Rd.
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So my son lives outside Cheney on 13 acres near the edge of Turnbull. There's alot of game in the area. He has has seen deer, elk, turkeys, geese, quail and other game on or near his property. On Saturday, 12/22/12, he left around 10am to go work out at the gym. He came back 3 hours later to find these very large tracks. He sent me a note wondering if they might be cougar tracks. I sent him a note that they looked canine. He owns a young, very large yellow lab and he said these were twice the size (width & length) of his dogs track. I told him to get some pictures with a tape measure for scale. He took these less than an hour after the first, crisp tracks. What do you guys think? Is it possible there's a lone wolf making a living in the area? Can provide gps coordinates if you think it would help. I encouraged him to keep his eyes open for more tracks and scat. I'm also giving him a trail cam for Christmas. Maybe he"ll get a shot of the culprit?
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I have heard other reports of wolves in and around Turnbull. Did the tracks continue down the road or did they leave the road and cut cross country?
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The road is actually his driveway. He lives at the end of a long drive with a half dozen other properties. He said the tracks left the road and went across the property on the far side of the garage/shop. He's only a couple of miles south of town off of Badger Lake Rd.. Do you think these could be wolf tracks or just a very big dog? Is it possible that wolves would be found this close to town and moving in the middle of the day? Have there been any confirmed sightings in Turnbull? Let me know if you need any more info. I'll share if he finds anything more. He's going to be watching a little closer now.
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The road is actually his driveway. He lives at the end of a long drive with a half dozen other properties. He said the tracks left the road and went across the property on the far side of the garage/shop. He's only a couple of miles south of town off of Badger Lake Rd.. Do you think these could be wolf tracks or just a very big dog? Is it possible that wolves would be found this close to town and moving in the middle of the day? Have there been any confirmed sightings in Turnbull? Let me know if you need any more info. I'll share if he finds anything more. He's going to be watching a little closer now.
I have been told by hunters at Turnbull that they saw wolves and they said employees claim to have seen wolves too.
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Mr. Denney, everybody else....this is an awesome thread first of all, incredibly organized, credible, and factually based. I have read this forum quite a bit and after finding this thread not long ago with the heads up from another member, I joined to post mine and my father's audible encounters with wolves this September. No pictures, no tracks, no visuals, but they were wolf howls alright.
GMU 105
Mitchell Flat/Mt.
No visuals, just audibles....Believed to be two adults
First Encounter
I work in the area each September, for the entirety of the month and invited the old man out this year with his camper to stay the month and hunt. At about 3 p.m. on Aug. 29th, I had just finished hanging one stand for dad to hunt whitetails out of. On the way to the second plausible stand location by foot I was stopped dead when I heard a single drawn out deep howl no more than 300-500 yards away to my NW. Dad and I immediately froze and turned to each other silently grinning (as we finally heard our first wolf in the home state without a doubt and we both knew it). Maybe 7-10 seconds later another singular howl rang out seemingly closer to my SE just about 180* from the first. That was it, two howls, then nothing. We hung around for a few minutes then went about our business. In light of all that was happening wolf wise at the time just west of my location on the west side of the wedge, we didn't think too much of it, and that the possibility of wolves right there in our hunting area was anything but far-fetched. More than a few others it sounds like have seen/heard them on the Northport side as well.
Second encounter, Middle to late Sept? Dad doesn't know the exact date.
My dad was on the way back from his stand in near black to the rig where my mother sat with the windows down listening and reading a book. I was not present, already tagged and was working that evening but am reporting this one in lieu of my father and mother.
Very similar thing, possibly the same two animals. Both parents heard them. One started howling, the other chimed in and they went off a couple of times together then went silent. They both told me separately the howls came from about a third of the way up a high ridge above a large field they were near.
I'm very very curious about other possible encounters that may have been had this year in and/or around the Sheep Creek drainage and from the border south down through the Flat Creek area to approx. the Gilmore cutoff, so basically the whole eastern diagonal flank of the GMU that might not have already been discussed or really elaborated on. Also, Border Patrol agent said he believed he had seen a few animals around the area that summer.
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No sightings or pics but my hunting partner heard wolves howling early morning of Nov. 18th 2012 about 5 miles up Cedar creek GMU 111 north stevens County. He has no doubt what they were. This is the 2nd year in a row wolves have been heard by a member in my party (Late deer MF) up Cedar.
I figure it is a break off from the Smackout pack.
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The Fish and Game Biologist in St John says 2 sets of wolf tracks were recorded by Revere south of Rock Lake and he measured them. Says they are wolf tracks! Might be the two people reported seeing around Turnbull!
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A friend saw a wolf standing in the middle of the road while snowmobiling up Gold Creek up the Methow 4 weeks ago. 3 weeks ago, a credible source called in a lone wolf up Texas Creek while coyote hunting. 2 days ago I spotted a lone wolf up Texas Creek while snowshoeing. (All up the Methow... so must be the "lookout" pack whether they're in Mazama or Methow)
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I have credible reports from local residents within the last few weeks of 11 wolves sighted from the air in one pack near deep lake, 5 wolves seen in one pack near LPO Lakes, 2 wolves seen together near LPO Lakes. All in GMU 111.
1 collared wolf is also living and emitting radio signals on two private ranches about 4 miles from Colville just inside GMU 108 next to GMU 111.
Probable wolf tracks were also seen on Colville Mountain a couple miles from Colville in GMU 108.
Another wolf sighting in GMU 117 near LPO Refuge Headquarters.
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Three more wolf incidents to go with the other sightings I have reported near Narcisse Creek and LPO Headquarters in GMU 117.
Monday 7:30 am, Feb 25, 2013
Wolf sighting in GMU 117 on the south side the Narcisse Creek Grange. Homeowner watches kids walk to the bus stop and back and nobody goes outside at night.
Wednesday Evening, Dec 12, 2012
GMU 117 near Narcisse Grange, knowledgeable local resident saw wolf tracks while walking into tree stand to bow hunt deer, heard wolf howling at dark time. The numerous deer all left the area, no deer were seen after the wolf tracks and howling showed up.
2011
GMU 117 near Narcisse Grange, local resident had Golden Retriever attacked by wolves.
Wolf sighting in GMU 117 on the south side the Narcisse Creek Grange. Homeowner watches kids walk to the bus stop and back and nobody goes outside at night.
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Dark gray wolf spotted on the morning of 3/10 near Reed Mountain. It was in the Pogue (233) GMU. Also reported this on the WDFW website.
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Winter Methow wanderings consolidated:
Gold Creek: January - about 1 mile out of the snowmobile park my friend saw a lone wolf standing in the middle of the road. Other friend that lives up the North fork has heard them howling and seen tracks.
Texas creek wildlife area (across from Gold Creek): late January - a mutual friend was calling coyotes and called a lone wolf in. A week later while snowshoeing, I saw a lone wolf from roughly 300 yards cross the head of the same drainage.
Finley Canyon: February - Two sets of wolf tracks found crossing a saddle in remote setting. Scat and potential wolf kill found.
Golden Doe Wildlife Area: March - Two sets of wolf tracks on fairly inaccessible ridgeline. North facing timbered slope showed more tracks. Wolf kill found. Took photos of the tracks on the ridgeline.. sorry, it was sunny and they're phone photos.
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The Fish and Game Biologist in St John says 2 sets of wolf tracks were recorded by Revere south of Rock Lake and he measured them. Says they are wolf tracks! Might be the two people reported seeing around Turnbull!
There should be three, red, grey and almost black. They have been seen all over the area chasing the elk....you now know why there are more elk in st john than ever....they were pushed there by the wolves from idaho.
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I received a text from a good friend late last night informing me of a confirmed by bio elk wolf kill on his buddies land just two miles outside the Wenatchee city limits. I thought those wolves caught on trail cams a month ago "were just passing through"?
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Please help get wolf legislation passed. This is an important step in the right dirtection, ACTION NEEDED TODAY.
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My wife is a bus driver for one of the school districts here in Spokane. She called me this morning saying that one of the other drivers spotted two wolves (1 black& 1 greyish-brown) in the cattle fields just northwest of Mica Peak.
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½ hour after sun up I seen a bunch of deer running south across Bernard’s field across the river from Carlton. (Alto Unit) Bino’ed the hill for about 3 minuets, not one deer on the ridge. Then all of a sudden a wolf was standing on a high spot in the middle of the field, it had to have run to there, it stood looking which way did the deer go, there’s two ways and they had lost sight, soon another wolf come to the high spot, they milled around then went back and up into the timber, I didn’t see them again. They were light colored like the original pack.
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I spotted a large black wolf yesterday north west of Ellensburg, west of lower green canyon road on DNR land stalking a herd of Elk, it was definitely a wolf !
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04.19,2013 me and 2 hunting partners while out turkey hunting on Camas Creek Rd off SR97 south of Leavenworth saw a wolf.
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Wolf number 18 was in my friends yard last winter.
The owner of the Bonaparte Resort saw 4 wolves after hunting season on the westside of the lake.
One lone wolf was seen by a friends wife last winter on Franson Peak near Curlew.
Postmasters neighbor near Marias Creek had one in his yard last winter. They reported it to the bio in Colville and was told it was a Smackout Pass wolf and was in Canada when they reported it.
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Sat may 4 th I watched and called in a grey brown lone wolf to 678 yards while watching him for 35 minutes. Blue creek unit gmu 154, 1 ridge west of laird gulch.
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2 wolves were seen in Chesaw 2 weeks ago.
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I don't have any proof but a Clark County Deputy I know reports seeing a lone black wolf with a radio collar on the south side of Mt. Saint Helens. Also heard of people seeing sign as close as the Yacolt Burn Area in the snow last year.
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One black wolf spotted May 22 near Smackout Pass, GMU 111, sat on his haunches and looked at us for several minutes. Photo is blurry due to snow storm, but I watched him with 15x Sawarovskis for several minutes and 100% certain it was a black wolf.
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May 29, 2013
Wolf sightings are nearly a daily occurrence now in the northeast. I have heard of a dozen sightings in the last week. One hunter who was out scouting the last days of May saw a bunch of wolf tracks up near Deep lake in GMU 111. He had trail cams with him so he hung one on a tree beside the road. The first wolf photo was taken 2 hours after placing the camera, in the next few days there were photos of at least 5 different wolves.
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June 2, 2013
Two adult wolves, a large black wolf and a medium sized reddish/gray wolf spotted together at 80 yards on South Fork Mill Creek Road only about 1/4 mile east of Kagel Creek, in GMU 111, we are sure that neither wolf had a radio collar, I doubt WDFW knows that these wolves exist.
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May 29, 2013
Wolf sightings are nearly a daily occurrence now in the northeast. I have heard of a dozen sightings in the last week. One hunter who was out scouting the last days of May saw a bunch of wolf tracks up near Deep lake in GMU 111. He had trail cams with him so he hung one on a tree beside the road. The first wolf photo was taken 2 hours after placing the camera, in the next few days there were photos of at least 5 different wolves.
I've got plans to hang a cam a bit northeast of Deep Lake over 4th of July weekend.
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May 29, 2013
Wolf sightings are nearly a daily occurrence now in the northeast. I have heard of a dozen sightings in the last week. One hunter who was out scouting the last days of May saw a bunch of wolf tracks up near Deep lake in GMU 111. He had trail cams with him so he hung one on a tree beside the road. The first wolf photo was taken 2 hours after placing the camera, in the next few days there were photos of at least 5 different wolves.
I've got plans to hang a cam a bit northeast of Deep Lake over 4th of July weekend.
Be sure and carry protection, a girl(lady) I went to school with lives near Spirit Junction, she walks every week on the Hwy for exercise. A couple weeks ago a wolf steps out 30 yards from her, luckily a pickup came along and spooked the wolf back off the road, after the truck passed she started walking again, the wolf pops out again and just stared at her, she ended up having to holler and throw rocks to scare it away, she told me she will never walk again without a gun, scared her badly.
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May 29, 2013
Wolf sightings are nearly a daily occurrence now in the northeast. I have heard of a dozen sightings in the last week. One hunter who was out scouting the last days of May saw a bunch of wolf tracks up near Deep lake in GMU 111. He had trail cams with him so he hung one on a tree beside the road. The first wolf photo was taken 2 hours after placing the camera, in the next few days there were photos of at least 5 different wolves.
I've got plans to hang a cam a bit northeast of Deep Lake over 4th of July weekend.
Be sure and carry protection, a girl(lady) I went to school with lives near Spirit Junction, she walks every week on the Hwy for exercise. A couple weeks ago a wolf steps out 30 yards from her, luckily a pickup came along and spooked the wolf back off the road, after the truck passed she started walking again, the wolf pops out again and just stared at her, she ended up having to holler and throw rocks to scare it away, she told me she will never walk again without a gun, scared her badly.
Will definitely be carrying. Last time I was up there hiking up a trail with a lot of switchbacks, I came around the corner and there stood a cougar. It darted off fast as lightning, but that stuck with me. We're definitely not the top of the food chain up there.
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Be sure and carry protection, a girl(lady) I went to school with lives near Spirit Junction, she walks every week on the Hwy for exercise. A couple weeks ago a wolf steps out 30 yards from her, luckily a pickup came along and spooked the wolf back off the road, after the truck passed she started walking again, the wolf pops out again and just stared at her, she ended up having to holler and throw rocks to scare it away, she told me she will never walk again without a gun, scared her badly.
That lady(JR) told me the story of her encounter too. That, and the bear encounter she had in the last year, and it's amazing that she hasn't have a coronary. She and a coworker encountered wolves a couple years ago off the Tiger highway, and I believe she has seen them in their pasture. I haven't seen one yet, but have seen a fair amount of sign in P.O. county in the last two years.
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The Stevens County Sheriff I know that investigated the Wedge Pack killings, told me last weekend the WDFW did not kill all the wolves.
He stated that the WDFW doesn't even know how many wolves are up there. He said the WDFW left one pup alive out of the 8 they killed.
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The Stevens County Sheriff I know that investigated the Wedge Pack killings, told me last weekend the WDFW did not kill all the wolves.
He stated that the WDFW doesn't even know how many wolves are up there. He said the WDFW left one pup alive out of the 8 they killed.
Why that's impossible!!!! They said they got them all why would they lie? I Believe them.
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The Stevens County Sheriff I know that investigated the Wedge Pack killings, told me last weekend the WDFW did not kill all the wolves.
He stated that the WDFW doesn't even know how many wolves are up there. He said the WDFW left one pup alive out of the 8 they killed.
Why that's impossible!!!! They said they got them all why would they lie? I Believe them.
Ah, um, me too.
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I haven't seen or heard of them yet this year, but they'd be holed up somewhere making more wolves....should be out running around soon though with a bunch of little ones in tow!
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I haven't seen or heard of them yet this year, but they'd be holed up somewhere making more wolves....should be out running around soon though with a bunch of little ones in tow!
You should hear them at work or going to work.
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When was the last time this count was updated? It seems like it's been at "158+" for about a year... :dunno:
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This photo was sent to me by email. Here are details of the wolf sightings, one wolf was seen and she could have taken photos so the lady started carrying her camera with her. A couple days later she saw the other wolf along the highway and got the photo.
June 21, 2013
Brownish wolf spotted in GMU 117 along highway 20 about 4.5 miles south of Ione.
June 23, 2013
Two days later a black wolf seen in the same area south of the new fire station at Tiger. This is in GMU 117 just south of Tiger on the eastside of highway 20 about 4.5 miles south of Ione.
The lady had a good look at both wolves, neither wolf had a collar.
FYI - The wolf lovers say wolves don't impact big game herds... :chuckle:
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This photo was sent to me by email. Here are details of the wolf sightings, one wolf was seen and she could have taken photos so the lady started carrying her camera with her. A couple days later she saw the other wolf along the highway and got the photo.
June 21, 2013
Brownish wolf spotted in GMU 117 along highway 20 about 4.5 miles south of Ione.
June 23, 2013
Two days later a black wolf seen in the same area south of the new fire station at Tiger. This is in GMU 117 just south of Tiger on the eastside of highway 20 about 4.5 miles south of Ione.
The lady had a good look at both wolves, neither wolf had a collar.
FYI - The wolf lovers say wolves don't impact big game herds... :chuckle:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :puke:
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wolf sighted outside of Chewelah, I made a thread with a pic called wolf near 49 with a pic of the wolf.
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He looks like a happy wolf. Little red riding hood must be coming.
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Last weekend a lone collared black wolf in the Cedar creek drainage was caught on a game cam in unit 111.
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Wolf caught on trail cam near blueslide resort Unit 117. Looks like a young one... was within 250 yards of my parents house.
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Saw two wolves in the Willipa hills yesterday. One is black the other grey. :bash:
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Saw two wolves in the Willipa hills yesterday. One is black the other grey. :bash:
Please add a GMU number and nearby drainage or mountain, thanks.
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Saw two wolves in the Willipa hills yesterday. One is black the other grey. :bash:
Please add a GMU number and nearby drainage or mountain, thanks.
GMU 506
Fossil Creek
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Well just saw on Facebook that some family friends had this wolf in there field. GMU 335 (Teanaway) Right in the valley. I can see if i can get a better pic.
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They won't like seeing them in their fields for long.
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Had a co-worker see one on hwy 410 just outside of Greenwater wednesday morning around 1am said its head was as high as his hood on his silverado... Just an FYI i posted several pics in a post from early Feb. about 5 miles from this sighting with a couple sets of fresh BIG dog tracks with no fresh human tracks to be seen, I have no doubt in my mind now that there is if not 1 a pack running around greenwater.
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Had a co-worker see one on hwy 410 just outside of Greenwater wednesday morning around 1am said its head was as high as his hood on his silverado... Just an FYI i posted several pics in a post from early Feb. about 5 miles from this sighting with a couple sets of fresh BIG dog tracks with no fresh human tracks to be seen, I have no doubt in my mind now that there is if not 1 a pack running around greenwater.
Thanks for the post, could you please provide the GMU and a local drainage or mountain?
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Had a co-worker see one on hwy 410 just outside of Greenwater wednesday morning around 1am said its head was as high as his hood on his silverado... Just an FYI i posted several pics in a post from early Feb. about 5 miles from this sighting with a couple sets of fresh BIG dog tracks with no fresh human tracks to be seen, I have no doubt in my mind now that there is if not 1 a pack running around greenwater.
I also know somebody that seen a black one above greenwater a couple of week's ago this guy know's what he's talking about when it comes wildlife!
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Had a co-worker see one on hwy 410 just outside of Greenwater wednesday morning around 1am said its head was as high as his hood on his silverado... Just an FYI i posted several pics in a post from early Feb. about 5 miles from this sighting with a couple sets of fresh BIG dog tracks with no fresh human tracks to be seen, I have no doubt in my mind now that there is if not 1 a pack running around greenwater.
I also know somebody that seen a black one above greenwater a couple of week's ago this guy know's what he's talking about when it comes wildlife!
WDFW is only confirming wolves where citizens report seeing them. It's extremely important that we document as many sightings as possible. Delisting is dependent on getting packs documented. Please add the GMU and a local mountain or stream, thanks.
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Posted awhile back 9/11/12 about hearing some wolves somewhere in the area between johnston ridge and mt st helens (GMU 524) . 2-3 of them. i know what i heard. ((( heard and saw them in idaho for a week. they also walked around our tents at night wow their tracks ))))
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Had a co-worker see one on hwy 410 just outside of Greenwater wednesday morning around 1am said its head was as high as his hood on his silverado... Just an FYI i posted several pics in a post from early Feb. about 5 miles from this sighting with a couple sets of fresh BIG dog tracks with no fresh human tracks to be seen, I have no doubt in my mind now that there is if not 1 a pack running around greenwater.
I also know somebody that seen a black one above greenwater a couple of week's ago this guy know's what he's talking about when it comes wildlife!
WDFW is only confirming wolves where citizens report seeing them. It's extremely important that we document as many sightings as possible. Delisting is dependent on getting packs documented. Please add the GMU and a local mountain or stream, thanks.
GMU 653 he told me by pyramid pass hope this helps.
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For what it is worth. Buddy from work wife's was heading to town this morning and on the Elk/Chattaroy road She had a wolf in front of her on the side road. I will take this as a true. She spent time in Alaska so she has seen them before, it ran off the shoulder and sat in the tall grass and watched her drive by. Unit Mt Spokane
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Trip report on nw hikers talks about hearing wolves howl from both sides of the valley in Gardner meadows area last weekend.
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A friend reports a sighting mid day near Gold Creek in the Methow of 2 chasing a young deer.
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Wolf poop, Hall Creek Sherman Pass unit 101 last Tuesday.
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More.......... these are bigger that they look. 3x's the size of coyote poop.
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I'm hearing reports of numerous sightings:
Tacoma Creek turnoff on Hwy 20, GMU 117, man was stopped looking at black wolf with tracking collar, says Game Warden Anderson pulled up to talk.
Numerous sightings in Tiger Meadows on Hwy 20, GMU 117
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They have absolutely decimated Hall Creek the last couple years. WAS one of my favorite spots to go.
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1 raggedy pale wolf seen crossing road, Coyote Mountain, GMU 101 7/19/2013
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I had a lone black wolf on one of my cams west of Cusick, WA Unit 117.
Had a cow moose leaving the cam and 5 minutes behind was the wolf.
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Stopped at Beaver Lodge on Tiger Pass 8/23. Talked to the waitress and she said she saw a black wolf 4 days prior right next to her trailer. Black with gold eyes. She said another women saw one at Tacoma Creek near Beaver Lodge a week or so before hers. I told her to report all sightings and to join HW to keep us posted.
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Dated trail cam photos sent to me from Ferry County, GMU 101.
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Biologist Spence captured video footage of two Lookout Pack wolf pups at a rendezvous site several weeks ago before the pack likely moved to the high country for the next few months until winter snows push deer down onto the winter range.
Lookout Wolf Pack Pups (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uck1Z83404M#)
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Wow
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hey dale the wife says that wolf in 101 would look good on the wall this fall, tell him to move south a little:)
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Unit 346 pyramid pass
300 rum next to it
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Heard one in the Bumping this week
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I had a cord of wood delivered on Sunday. The guy that delivered it his son said, Look at this picture my girlfriend took. I was a nice big wolf on west Curlew Lake rd. He said it was growling at has girlfriend. I told him to post it on here, but I guess he couldn't because it was on his phone.
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Unit 346 pyramid pass
300 rum next to it
That's a nice fresh track .... :bfg:
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No pics... Seen two wolves twice, two days apart. October 3rd afternoon, October 5th 8:30am. October 5th was calling for Moose and they came right into us. 30 yards... Boyer Mountian. Reported to WDFW.
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No pics... Seen two wolves twice, two days apart. October 3rd afternoon, October 5th 8:30am. October 5th was calling for Moose and they came right into us. 30 yards... Boyer Mountian. Reported to WDFW.
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Where's Boyer Mtn ?
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15 miles east of chewelah as the crow flys
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15 miles east of chewelah as the crow flys
Thanks...........
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My grandpa saw one yesterday around noon in unit 124. He said it ran across the road 20 yards in front of him.
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Gmu 113. Howling around camp low in Harvey creek. Wolf tracks in mine on Gleason mt.(moose I was trying for was grunting then he started growling and snorting, him and the other 2 bulls were never heard from again.). Saw a wolf on bead ridge area1092 rd.
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2 wolves, GMU 101 just north of Curlew Lake. 10/14/2013.
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2 wolves, GMU 101 just north of Curlew Lake. 10/14/2013.
Where at exactly and what time ?
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I was in GMU 101 for 4 days I heard at least 4 different wolves howling near Tonata Creek at night.
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I was in GMU 101 for 4 days I heard at least 4 different wolves howling near Tonata Creek at night.
Were you down near Hardscrabble, Bodie area ?
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2 wolves, GMU 101 just north of Curlew Lake. 10/14/2013.
Where at exactly and what time ?
Eastern slopes of Mt Elizabeth on state land (west side of Marbelle road). Very near the highway actually. I was shocked how big those dang things are. We saw em from about 200-250 yards and they make a coyote look like a mouse as far as size goes. Funny thing is that the evening before we saw a hunter sitting on a ridge overlooking a flat area and the next morning we saw the wolves trotting accross that same ridge as the hunter was sitting the evening before. the wolves actually stoped trotting at the exact spot the hunter was siting the previous evening prob due to scent which allowed us time to throw the binos up for a good 20 seconds or so before they spotted us and left over the back side of the ridge line.
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Time was approx 7.15am
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I was in GMU 101 for 4 days I heard at least 4 different wolves howling near Tonata Creek at night.
Were you down near Hardscrabble, Bodie area ?
Yep, Love that area! Family has hunted there since 1953 or so. I know they are wolves, seen some Sh..... too!
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I was in GMU 101 for 4 days I heard at least 4 different wolves howling near Tonata Creek at night.
Were you down near Hardscrabble, Bodie area ?
Oh yes. They've been sighted there for 4-5 years now.
Yep, Love that area! Family has hunted there since 1953 or so. I know they are wolves, seen some Sh..... too!
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Took this pic while hunting on Mt. Spokane last weekend with my son. Set the radio next to it for size reference. Looks to big to be a yote, but wanna know what you all think.
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That looks like a cougar track to me. Fairly round and no visible toe nails.
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You cant tell in the pic but there were visible claw marks.
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2 wolves, GMU 101 just north of Curlew Lake. 10/14/2013.
Where at exactly and what time ?
Eastern slopes of Mt Elizabeth on state land (west side of Marbelle road). Very near the highway actually. I was shocked how big those dang things are. We saw em from about 200-250 yards and they make a coyote look like a mouse as far as size goes. Funny thing is that the evening before we saw a hunter sitting on a ridge overlooking a flat area and the next morning we saw the wolves trotting accross that same ridge as the hunter was sitting the evening before. the wolves actually stoped trotting at the exact spot the hunter was siting the previous evening prob due to scent which allowed us time to throw the binos up for a good 20 seconds or so before they spotted us and left over the back side of the ridge line.
I wonder if it's they same wolf (wolves) that were seen a couple weeks ago near Barrett Creek that my buddies, sons, girlfriend got a picture of that he never posted.......hmmmmmm ?
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Unit 243 Oct. 16. It is hard to see in the picture. That is a 257wby next to it. What do you think? It is about 4.5" long tip to tip.
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10-22-13 GMU 247, Crumb Canyon. The knife is 4.25" long and there was another one next to it.
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Oct 24th Lake Cavanaugh RD GMU 437 near the intersection of S shore Drive and N shore Drive. My wife was coming from the lake in the evening about 9:30pm. She said she saw a wolf cross the road on her way home. I asked her if it could have been a coyote or a husky. She said it was larger than my chessy so its not a coyote, plus she has seen many dead examples of those. I showed my wife pics of huskies and AK malamutes and also wolves with no lables as to what they were. She pointed out a several examples of wolves in pictures.
My mother came to my house for dinner tonight. My wife and i were talking about her experience. My mother told me that she saw a wolf near that same place about a month ago. My mother would know the difference between a AK Malamute or a husky easy since we had them when i was growing up. This does not come as a big surprise to me since almost 10 years ago i saw 4 wolves outside of Sedro Woolley chasing the elk in the Nooksack herd. In addition to the fact that my brother works for a logging outfit that has seen wolves for some time in the 418 &437. I have tried to get details ln thier sitings but since they do no know me they say nothing.
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I caught three following a doe and a couple fawns across the face of a hill last weekend in the Methow. I only had time to get the spotter up and get one long distance digi shot with my cell. I have seen both coyote and wolf over there in the last several years and know the difference, there is no doubt the three I saw were wolves.
You can make out the top two, the other one was in the bright spot.
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Oct 24th Lake Cavanaugh RD GMU 437 near the intersection of S shore Drive and N shore Drive. My wife was coming from the lake in the evening about 9:30pm. She said she saw a wolf cross the road on her way home. I asked her if it could have been a coyote or a husky. She said it was larger than my chessy so its not a coyote, plus she has seen many dead examples of those. I showed my wife pics of huskies and AK malamutes and also wolves with no lables as to what they were. She pointed out a several examples of wolves in pictures.
My mother came to my house for dinner tonight. My wife and i were talking about her experience. My mother told me that she saw a wolf near that same place about a month ago. My mother would know the difference between a AK Malamute or a husky easy since we had them when i was growing up. This does not come as a big surprise to me since almost 10 years ago i saw 4 wolves outside of Sedro Woolley chasing the elk in the Nooksack herd. In addition to the fact that my brother works for a logging outfit that has seen wolves for some time in the 418 &437. I have tried to get details ln thier sitings but since they do no know me they say nothing.
Looks like we may be neighbors, so to speak. My Dad lives in Big Lake, I hunt back there all the time. I've seen large K-9 tracks out there but never a wolf with my own two eyes. Earlier in this thread I mentioned seeing one in Sedro, probably one of the four you mentioned.
Looks like all us coyote hunters will have to pay close attention before we connect.
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My brother is a logger. Guys on his different crews have seen wolves in the 418 and 437. They won't talk to me about it but they are there.
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Two wolves seen in early November by some friends and their neighbors who live in Dry Creek northwest from Chewelah in GMU 121.
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Several sets of wolf tracks traveling together, seen in Mill Creek in late October north of Colville in GMU 111.
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Took this pic while hunting on Mt. Spokane last weekend with my son. Set the radio next to it for size reference. Looks to big to be a yote, but wanna know what you all think.
That looks like a cougar track to me. Fairly round and no visible toe nails.
:yeah: it's Cougar.
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4 wolves (2 collared) spotted on the border of the Manson/Alta unit in October. Reynolds Creek/Rennie Peak area. These wolves were less than 30 yards from two hikers who don't want to be identified.
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Another wolf report comes from GMU 117. A mother, son, and daughter were deer hunting near Blacktail Mountain on the LPO wildlife refuge. They saw a pack of wolves attacking a whitetail. A short while later the son howled and wolves howled all around them, they were surrounded by wolves so they got out of there.
I'm hearing lots of wolf reports and will add more reports when I get better details.
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My brother is a logger. Guys on his different crews have seen wolves in the 418 and 437. They won't talk to me about it but they are there.
So this might explain why a gate was put on the road just past Shannon Lake boat ramp last year. :bash:
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A kid staying at the Beaver Lodge campground got a nice 4x4 buck opening day of late buck. Cut the head off and left it out. Next morning it was gone. A couple other hunters saw a black dog with a green collar hauling it up the South Fork of Mill Creek Road. Turns out, the lodge owner told us it's actually a small, collared, black wolf that has been hanging out around the lodge all summer. Darn scavengers. At least the kid has pictures. And he learned a valuable lesson on securing things out in the wild.
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I saw two wolves, about ten years ago, just out of Colfax. I called WDFW to report it, and all they did was argue with me, and ask me "what makes you think they were wolves"? Yes, that's a quote. DENIAL! Well, I lived in Alaska 47 years, and was a successful wolf trapper, I think I know one when I see one. They just didn't want to deal with it. Wolves are here to stay. If they opened the season year 'round, with no limit, you could never kill them all. When they were killed off a hundred years ago, it was through a concerted effort, using every means imaginable....that could never happen now. Too many obstacles these days....mostly people.
Don't think they require wilderness to survive, all they need is food. I like wolves. I particularly like them draped around my neck.
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Wolf heard howling this past saturday in 117 west of Colville. I have heard plenty of coyotes howling and yipping and am 99.999% sure this was a wolf as was my father who was up the ridge from me. It makes sense because we suddenly stopped seeing deer in the daylight and couldn't figure out why until that morning. :bash:
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Wolf heard howling this past saturday in 117 west of Colville. I have heard plenty of coyotes howling and yipping and am 99.999% sure this was a wolf as was my father who was up the ridge from me. It makes sense because we suddenly stopped seeing deer in the daylight and couldn't figure out why until that morning. :bash:
117 is east of colville. 121 is west
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Wolf heard howling this past saturday in 117 west of Colville. I have heard plenty of coyotes howling and yipping and am 99.999% sure this was a wolf as was my father who was up the ridge from me. It makes sense because we suddenly stopped seeing deer in the daylight and couldn't figure out why until that morning. :bash:
117 is east of colville. 121 is west
Sorry I meant East out up off 20
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Just saw 3 mature wolves about a mile up no2 canyon in Wenatchee. Notified a couple homeowners that were outside at the time
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Just saw 3 mature wolves about a mile up no2 canyon in Wenatchee. Notified a couple homeowners that were outside at the time
Which GMU is that?
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251 Mission, looks like the Wenatchee pack is growing :(
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Does howling count ? My mutt was barking last night, as was every dog around about 9:30 pm. Then I hear this low, howling type sound on Franson Peak. Very suspicious as the howling was traveling all by itself.
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I hope it was a coyote howling.
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Does howling count ? My mutt was barking last night, as was every dog around about 9:30 pm. Then I hear this low, howling type sound on Franson Peak. Very suspicious as the howling was traveling all by itself.
Coyotes are pairing up this time of year and females will do some low, soft howling sometimes.
Lets hope anyway :yike:
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Not coyotes. They were howling too, along with what I reported. There is a huge difference in sounds.
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Ive heard several people say they've seen or heard them near Lundimo Meadows, just north of Fransen.........
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Posted this pic in another thread looking for input, all said wolf so here it is. From 328, about 4000feet elevation, near Wilson Creek road.
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Ive heard several people say they've seen or heard them near Lundimo Meadows, just north of Fransen.........
That's where the sound/howl was coming from exactly. I'm going to go look for tracks up there tomorrow.
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Hey guys, I got signed up on here yesterday but I have been snooping around on here for a year or more. Not a big forum guy but it seems there are some good folks on here. I have been carrying a rifle in the woods since I was 11 and also got my first deer that year. Been fallowing my dad for longer. I am now quite a few years older and married. My wife and I were headed to Yakima last weekend for a family event and chose to chase some coyotes in Ellensburg off Vantage hwy before the event. It was about 1030am on our second set when something moved out of the corner of my eye to my right. I was sitting on the right side of a large rock filled corner post in a fence line and she was on the left. We were looking in the NW direction. I had been mostly hand calling some rabbit with a few coyote bark/howls for about 14 mins when the movement to my right got my attention. 325 yards away on the same ridge top was a wolf. Single, No radio caller, No ear tags, Female, she was the typical grey/brown/black color. I have never seen one before in my life outside a zoo and I assure you for the folks that have never seen one, you will know its a wolf within about 1/10 of a second. Quite the twist of events to our coyote hunt that morning. Figured I would report the sighting here since lots of you guys hunt in that area. Scares me for the Quilomene elk herd, not kidding, this meat chainsaw was only about 1.5 miles from where I parked my truck.
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I had seen two last year up lundimo while out on the snowmobiles. those were the only two I have ever seen in Washington. I have seen quite a few when I lived in Montana.
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Welcome to the forum Maverick26, which GMU did you see the wolf?
bhawley76 which GMU did you see the wolves?
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Welcome to the forum Maverick26, which GMU did you see the wolf?
bhawley76 which GMU did you see the wolves?
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bhawley76 saw them by my house Dale. Unit 101.
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Mine was right on the 334 Ellensburg and 329 Quilomene line In the Quilomene unit about 3 miles north east of the GMU line.
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Scary I was elk hunting by myself on the border of 251 and 328. I didn't realize there were wolves there.
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Its kinda scary indeed. When I seen this one I packed my *censored* and left that area, got back to my truck and went and told the 2 ranchers that happened to be outside as I drove by. The one closest to the end of the road said he had lost 2 calves out of his pen and has seen quite a few dead deer on his land. They other rancher had not had any issues yet but took the warning to heart. One of my friends hunts elk up in the Quilomene and I know there is WDFW elk calving areas up in there that are gated off to keep the elk happy. I ride my dirt bike up in there in the spring and summer and have seen hundreds of elk last year. I guess we will see what happens.
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two wolves trax yesterday that track goes up from Lester to Loop GMU 224, Trax cut was Friday sometime. Pic of Wolf hair got stuck on barb wire fence.
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Saw a wolf in GMU 328 this past November 2013. Between Reecer and Wilson creek. I reported it to the Fish and Game. There was no question whether or not it was a wolf. It was almost black and I walked over and looked at the tracks in the snow. Without question a wolf. I also heard of a guy that saw several up in Reecer Cr. two weekends ago snowmobiling....Sickening.
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Had a co-worker see one on hwy 410 just outside of Greenwater wednesday morning around 1am said its head was as high as his hood on his silverado... Just an FYI i posted several pics in a post from early Feb. about 5 miles from this sighting with a couple sets of fresh BIG dog tracks with no fresh human tracks to be seen, I have no doubt in my mind now that there is if not 1 a pack running around greenwater.
Thanks for the post, could you please provide the GMU and a local drainage or mountain?
Sorry I didnt see this months ago and corrected it :bash:
My original post about my co-worker and my experience with fresh tracks was in GMU 653, just outside of Greenwater. I had the fresh tracks following mine in the west fork of the white river about 5-6 miles SE of the town of Greenwater.
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Was watching a elk herd running down a mt yesterday in the teanaway . Wondered why they would be running only to see a lone wolf running behind them.
Also met a local landowner who says he has seen them alot this winter
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A friend saw 2 wolves, 2 weeks ago, about a mile north of Curlew along the river. He saw 1 last winter in the same general area.
( He also saw 5 cougars last week same area north of Curlew.)
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Yet another wolf sighting near Thomas Lake east of Colville 2 days ago, 1 mile east of the lodge.
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Supposedly a wolf sighting near Sun Mountain Tuesday night by long time( Lifetime) resident. Black wolf, without collar, viewed through binos seen by several people. Plan on getting specifics on approximate location prior to setting trail cameras
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Another wolf seen by my rancher friend out near Bodie ghost town in his field 2 weeks ago. He just told me today.
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with all these hunters out and about I'm surprised there haven't been any more reports lately :dunno:
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with all these hunters out and about I'm surprised there haven't been any more reports lately :dunno:
maybe its the third "S" thing
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9/19/2014 found track running on trail. Near 30 mile meadows unit 215/218.
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A couple buddies of mine were predator calling off loop loop in the burn and called in a wolf. Walked right in on them.
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One wolf sighted in Manson unit, November 1st. Lots of tracks spotted as well.
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One wolf sighted in Manson unit, November 1st. Lots of tracks spotted as well.
[/quote. Hey Ridgerunner. Were the tracks seen all over? Or in a concentrated area?
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They followed a road for at least 7 miles. But yes concentrated to that one road.
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Black wolf Tiger side of Hwy 20 E. Not scared a bit.
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Black wolf Tiger side of Hwy 20 E. Not scared a bit.
That wolf has been around a couple years. Hangs around the Beaver Lodge. It stole the head of a real nice buck a kid took two years ago. Poor kid had just gotten his first big buck and then lost the head and antlers. He showed me pictures of it on his cell hone.
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Just heard a wolf (close-250yds.) at 4:50 on Anderson Road off of the Addy/Gifford Rd. Another one answered from the mountain to the west.
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2 Wolves in Teanaway north fork, one the east side of Teanaway Rd about half mile from 29 pines campground
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Just a point of interest. Before the wolves will be delisted they must reach a certain number within the state. With the reports of random killings, this may delay the actual delisting. I understand but it is counter-productive to kill these wolves until it is legal.
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Saw two wolves in the stampede unit (gmu466) black one near snowshoe butte From the distance looked like a Bear tell I put the scope on His head and he started moving and saw his tail.
The second one was a grey with black spin running the Power lines in the same unit.
My buddy heard one near pyramid peak Last year during archery season so did my dad.
I heard one this year in stampede while doing a bugle I then through my bugle and gave up
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Wolf howling above Anderson road 4 o'clock today..
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Two wolves chasing deer above Bradeen Rd on the 15th. Whitetail doe and mulie buck observed with tore up front quarters and hind quarters...still alive--18th of Nov. Bradeen rd area ( off Addy/Gifford Road)
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Saw a wolf in GMU 233 near rock creek on Sunday. No Doubt about it, all gray and very large much bigger and longer than my black lab and he is @85lbs. Just missed getting photos. We also saw lots of tracks and heard from several hunters that there was an unusual lack of deer.
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Just heard 5 wolvers crossed the Kettle River 2 weeks ago west of Curlew about 6 miles.....
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Just heard 5 wolvers crossed the Kettle River 2 weeks ago west of Curlew about 6 miles.....
Hopefully they are headed West!!! :chuckle:
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Just heard 5 wolvers crossed the Kettle River 2 weeks ago west of Curlew about 6 miles.....
Hopefully they are headed West!!! :chuckle:
Going back north where the WDFW bought them. Prisoner exchange I guess...... :tup:
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Last year, I saw wolf tracks in the snow on Bethel Ridge. This year I hunted the same area I actually seen two wolves following a herd of 9 Elk about 500 yards behind. Bad news for the Bethel unit for hunting. Has any one else seen wolves in the Bethel unit GMU 360?
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Got pics of fresh track in mud by yellow gate in Taneum off of elk heights exit end of October....stalking deer for sure
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Talked to a rancher I know. He heard of 5 wolves spotted, walking on a trial, in single file, near Marias Creek/Nicholson Creek area, unit 204.
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Crossed tracks of 5 Wolves this morning up Oxide Canyon in Gold Creek Unit 242. Made last night or early this morning, one was just a frikking monster.
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WOLF in the toutle
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I'm having difficulty winding down after this one... so here's the photos:
The dead-head that started it all:
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Wolf photo #1 (note the deadhead's position and how it is now gone in photo #2... this is when I got back up the hill)
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Wolf photo #2
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Looking down from the ridge after the fact... I was there since 8 AM and never saw them until I dropped in elevation.. their den is on the side of that large rock:
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I know its old but I can't see the pictures anymore????
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I saw a picture of 4 wolves up Aeneas Creek near Malo, from 3 weeks ago taken by a hunter. That's 14 wolves I've heard about since rifle season around Curlew...............
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I saw a picture of 4 wolves up Aeneas Creek near Malo, from 3 weeks ago taken by a hunter. That's 14 wolves I've heard about since rifle season around Curlew...............
Those guys on the Rez need to start doing a little better on the wolf hunting thing.
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3 wolves were caught on a game camera just east of Chewelah not long ago. A white one has a collar on. The collared one one was seen 2 times the opening week of deer season by 2 different people. These sightings were just over a mile from town. :bash:
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Wolves that "migrate" from Canada come with collars.
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I'm having difficulty winding down after this one... so here's the photos:
The dead-head that started it all:
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Wolf photo #1 (note the deadhead's position and how it is now gone in photo #2... this is when I got back up the hill)
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Wolf photo #2
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Looking down from the ridge after the fact... I was there since 8 AM and never saw them until I dropped in elevation.. their den is on the side of that large rock:
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I know its old but I can't see the pictures anymore????
I think she pulled photos of this area/hunt because people on this site used them to find out where she was hunting and invaded her honey hole... I could be wrong but I think that was it.
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I'm having difficulty winding down after this one... so here's the photos:
The dead-head that started it all:
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Wolf photo #1 (note the deadhead's position and how it is now gone in photo #2... this is when I got back up the hill)
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Wolf photo #2
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Looking down from the ridge after the fact... I was there since 8 AM and never saw them until I dropped in elevation.. their den is on the side of that large rock:
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I know its old but I can't see the pictures anymore????
I think she pulled photos of this area/hunt because people on this site used them to find out where she was hunting and invaded her honey hole... I could be wrong but I think that was it.
:bash: :bash:
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One of the farmers in the Cloverland area of the Blues
(Lick CK.) say the wolves were chasing the elk in one of his fields. He said the field looked like it was turned up with a rototiller. Don't them wolves know there aren't any game in WA, they need to go back to OR.
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Wolf seen near Midway B.C. on the US side near White Mountain, west of Curlew, when the women was dropping her kids off for the school bus.
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Wolves heard up St. Peters Creek in Malo, last week by a rancher I know.
( the Profanity Pack we haven't heard about in months........)
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1 wolf ran across the road, in front of a gal I know, 2 days ago, on Sherman Pass near the new toilets.
7 wolves ran across Boulder Pass, 2 days ago, in front of Curlew resident. 3 had collars on.
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Last year, I saw wolf tracks in the snow on Bethel Ridge. This year I hunted the same area I actually seen two wolves following a herd of 9 Elk about 500 yards behind. Bad news for the Bethel unit for hunting. Has any one else seen wolves in the Bethel unit GMU 360?
2 years ago me and a buddy saw a lone one...all grey... in 364. Right across highway 12 from Bethel unit
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There's been a collared wolf hanging around a residents home about a mile outside of Twisp the last two weeks.
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Last year, I saw wolf tracks in the snow on Bethel Ridge. This year I hunted the same area I actually seen two wolves following a herd of 9 Elk about 500 yards behind. Bad news for the Bethel unit for hunting. Has any one else seen wolves in the Bethel unit GMU 360?
2 years ago me and a buddy saw a lone one...all grey... in 364. Right across highway 12 from Bethel unit
Not in bethel yet, but I have heard them in the upper rattlesnake drainage and pretty sure I saw a black female today up the bumping in an area with recent wolf sightings.
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2 wolves seen near Mitchell Rd out of Northport...
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At the IST meeting this weekend they stressed the need to also report these sightings to the WDFW.
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Appears to be wolf poop on my ridge above the house..... It's as big as a pie plate, all fulla hair too....no wonder we don't have deer and coyotes hanging around anymore...
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Appears to be wolf poop on my ridge above the house..... It's as big as a pie plate, all fulla hair too....no wonder we don't have deer and coyotes hanging around anymore...
look like this?
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Appears to be wolf poop on my ridge above the house..... It's as big as a pie plate, all fulla hair too....no wonder we don't have deer and coyotes hanging around anymore...
look like this?
Oh no...that's disgusting looking. Mine has solid hair in it.....It was about a week or two old.
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The older stuff was mostly hair and large chunks of bone. The fresher one I didn't inspect closely :puke: Pic was taken right above N Skookum lake
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The older stuff was mostly hair and large chunks of bone. The fresher one I didn't inspect closely :puke: Pic was taken right above N Skookum lake
With the shape and texture of your pile, it might be cat, but most likely coyote. It's pretty small looking compared to the Bic. The poop I've seen is 2-3 times that size. I'll see if my pile is still there, since it's right on the road and I'll post it for comparison value... :chuckle:
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Possible but I've never seen a coyote turd that big before. I think the pic is a little miss leading or it is a cat. Though I have found a lot of cat toilets in my day and I don't think that's what it was but :dunno:
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Another wolf sighting reported to me. It was seen at Matson Creek right on the Columbia river, near Boyds Washington last weekend.
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In a few decades we'll have a thread... Report NE Deer Sightings Here - 160 seen this year
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In a few decades we'll have a thread... Report NE Deer Sightings Here - 160 seen this year
.............ain't that the truth.
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In a few decades we'll have a thread... Report NE Deer Sightings Here - 160 seen this year
Pretty funny considering the herd is growing in leaps and bounds.
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In a few decades we'll have a thread... Report NE Deer Sightings Here - 160 seen this year
Pretty funny considering the herd is growing in leaps and bounds.
Where do you get that info?
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In a few decades we'll have a thread... Report NE Deer Sightings Here - 160 seen this year
Pretty funny considering the herd is growing in leaps and bounds.
Where do you get that info?
From what I've seen personally, and from all the guys telling us how great the 4 pt rule has been working bringing the herd back.
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In a few decades we'll have a thread... Report NE Deer Sightings Here - 160 seen this year
Pretty funny considering the herd is growing in leaps and bounds.
Where do you get that info?
From what I've seen personally, and from all the guys telling us how great the 4 pt rule has been working bringing the herd back.
Let me tell you from someone who actually lives on this side of the state and spends a fair amount of time in the woods over here year round. The herd IS NOT growing by leaps and bounds.
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:yeah: :yike: some people believe IF WDFW says so, its IS :dunno:
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In a few decades we'll have a thread... Report NE Deer Sightings Here - 160 seen this year
Pretty funny considering the herd is growing in leaps and bounds.
Info must come from the guy who calculates employment numbers for Obama
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In a few decades we'll have a thread... Report NE Deer Sightings Here - 160 seen this year
Pretty funny considering the herd is growing in leaps and bounds.
I certainly wouldn't say leaps and bounds. it was meant as a joke anyway.
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North Bend on I90 at MP41. A big black wolf standing by the road today.
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You couldn't chrome poach him? That's very close to the watershed. Lotsa elk and deer in the shed
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He was across the ditch unfortunately. Big one though.
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North Bend on I90 at MP41. A big black wolf standing by the road today.
Don't tell Bobcat,M-Ray and Huntphool there coming. It can be a suprise!!!! :chuckle:
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Anybody got wolves on trail cams in the Yakima units?
With all the trail cams, wolves would get photo'd if they are there, wouldn't they?
(I'm not picking a wolf fight; I wish the season was 24/7/365. I just think they'd show up on cams.)
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Anybody got wolves on trail cams in the Yakima units?
With all the trail cams, wolves would get photo'd if they are there, wouldn't they?
(I'm not picking a wolf fight; I wish the season was 24/7/365. I just think they'd show up on cams.)
yes
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Anybody got wolves on trail cams in the Yakima units?
With all the trail cams, wolves would get photo'd if they are there, wouldn't they?
(I'm not picking a wolf fight; I wish the season was 24/7/365. I just think they'd show up on cams.)
yes
Anybody ever post them?
I think they'd be cool to see.
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Anybody got wolves on trail cams in the Yakima units?
With all the trail cams, wolves would get photo'd if they are there, wouldn't they?
(I'm not picking a wolf fight; I wish the season was 24/7/365. I just think they'd show up on cams.)
yes
Anybody ever post them?
I think they'd be cool to see.
nope. I have reported them to the proper people and that is that.
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Heard of "a guy" with pics of wolf den with pups on the Yakima Reservation just recently. I encouraged him to report them to WDFW.
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Heard wolves howling up in the Taneum this weekend. Camped in a spot that had about 15-20 piles of hairy poop. seemed like it was too big for yotes.
The howling was definitely not coyote though. Heard 2 distinct animals howling, one on each side of us. They must have liked the full moon.
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Ran into one standing in the road last weekend in 105 unit north of Northport. Lone black wolf
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2 wolves on the pipeline in Duvall
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Any pictures?
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:4w: I'd be standing on it...waiting for the turbo to spool up.
Ran into one standing in the road last weekend in 105 unit north of Northport. Lone black wolf
To get closer for a picture of course.
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no pictures my son was the one who seen them :yike:
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Dale Could we possibly raise the wolf count (158+). If someone just periodically checked this thread it might be miss leading since the number hasn't been updated in quite a long time.
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Ran into one standing in the road last weekend in 105 unit north of Northport. Lone black wolf
Up Mitchell?
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2 wolves spotted across Highway 2 from the rest area about 3 miles from the Lake Wenatchee turnoff at Coles Corner some time last week. Hoping to get a copy of the photo that was submitted to the state at some point. According to the contact who submitted the photo, the wolves have been confirmed by WDFW (for whatever that's worth). Guess I'll have to be a little more weary of my surroundings in the woods this summer and fall over in that area.
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Dale Could we possibly raise the wolf count (158+). If someone just periodically checked this thread it might be miss leading since the number hasn't been updated in quite a long time.
I'll do it Grundy. Well over 300
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2 wolves spotted across Highway 2 from the rest area about 3 miles from the Lake Wenatchee turnoff at Coles Corner some time last week. Hoping to get a copy of the photo that was submitted to the state at some point. According to the contact who submitted the photo, the wolves have been confirmed by WDFW (for whatever that's worth). Guess I'll have to be a little more weary of my surroundings in the woods this summer and fall over in that area.
3 out of the last 4 years we've heard/seen them during the high hunt in that general area.
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2 wolves spotted across Highway 2 from the rest area about 3 miles from the Lake Wenatchee turnoff at Coles Corner some time last week. Hoping to get a copy of the photo that was submitted to the state at some point. According to the contact who submitted the photo, the wolves have been confirmed by WDFW (for whatever that's worth). Guess I'll have to be a little more weary of my surroundings in the woods this summer and fall over in that area.
3 out of the last 4 years we've heard/seen them during the high hunt in that general area.
Yeah knew they were probably around. Seen tracks up on Nason Ridge the last few years that were too big to be a normal dog's. It's definitely a very wolfy area. Probably won't be long until my first encounter.
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Does that include the one's that have been gut shot :dunno: Probably don't want to report them :chuckle:
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Dale Could we possibly raise the wolf count (158+). If someone just periodically checked this thread it might be miss leading since the number hasn't been updated in quite a long time.
Bump
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heard wolves howling in the middle of the night on 22nd of may near carpenter rd. fruitland,wa
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heard wolves howling in the middle of the night on 22nd of may near carpenter rd. fruitland,wa
We hear that some wolf lovers moved up Titus Canyon Road just off of Carpenter Road I think the guy goes by Wild Wolf Willy. Release site?? :hello: :chuckle:
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Dale Could we possibly raise the wolf count (158+). If someone just periodically checked this thread it might be miss leading since the number hasn't been updated in quite a long time.
Bump
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Dale Could we possibly raise the wolf count (158+). If someone just periodically checked this thread it might be miss leading since the number hasn't been updated in quite a long time.
Bump
Just add a "1".
1,158
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heard wolves howling in the middle of the night on 22nd of may near carpenter rd. fruitland,wa
We hear that some wolf lovers moved up Titus Canyon Road just off of Carpenter Road I think the guy goes by Wild Wolf Willy. Release site?? :hello: :chuckle:
nice property thanks rick :tup:
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Heard one not too far from fruitland yesterday evening.
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Heard one not too far from fruitland yesterday evening.
dude your a long ways from home!
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Heard one not too far from fruitland yesterday evening.
dude your a long ways from home!
On a paid scouting trip :chuckle:
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http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/local/selah-men-believe-they-have-proof-of-wenas-wolf/article_ebe170a6-1646-11e5-a647-b73794f4bd32.html
just posting, not my sighting
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Saw 4 up Eight mile creek rd. Out of Winthrop last weekend. One of them only had 3 legs. 2 grey colored ones, 1 black, and 1 almost white.
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Unconfirmed sighting - just couldn't tell for sure.
End of July 2015, just above (uphill) from Hereford Meadow in the Manastash. Walking back to my truck after scouting for elk. An animal jumped up from a bed 60 yards in front of me. It was definitely canine, grey-colored, round ears, didn't see the tail. It was built like a Saint Bernard, much bigger than any coyote I have every seen. It jumped behind a tree and some bushes, then I saw it take two running strides into the brush. It all happened VERY fast. I looked for tracks but it was matted down grass and didn't see any. I wish I could confirm it, but I didn't get a great look at it.
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Heard one not too far from fruitland yesterday evening.
Oh theres plenty of em there, with any luck theyre all "well done" by now
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Hunting partners just got back from Rimrock for early archery Elk and said they heard animals tearing something up Friday morning 9/18. 3 distinctly different growls? Off the 1201 Road. Don't have any more details than that.
Saw zero Elk when I was hunting over there over a period of 4 days of hunting starting on opening day. Ran into 25-40 animals the year before? Never heard a howl or bugle
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Friend saw a wolf chasing a deer near Big Goosemus rd this morning at 8:30am in unit 101.
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Friend saw a wolf chasing a deer near Big Goosemus rd this morning at 8:30am in unit 101.
Bummer I hunt up that way on Singers property every few years
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Friend saw a wolf chasing a deer near Big Goosemus rd this morning at 8:30am in unit 101.
Bummer I hunt up that way on Singers property every few years
I know Linda and all the ranchers up there. I wouldn't really worry about it.
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Another wolf sighting in Danville today, during the day even. Unit 101
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https://vimeo.com/142101385 (https://vimeo.com/142101385)
This audio was recorded outside Duvall the other night from the Pipeline trail.
Thoughts?
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Is that your recording?
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https://vimeo.com/142101385 (https://vimeo.com/142101385)
This audio was recorded outside Duvall the other night from the Pipeline trail.
Thoughts?
Sounds similar to the one I heard outside of Fruitland in coyote canyon in late june. Hopefully the one I heard burned up in the fire.
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My camp mates heard wolves behind elk camp last week.
Near above Orr Ridge Rd. In the Nile.
I slept through it.
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Big set of Wolf tracks following Moose tracks in the road up in the Douglas, 108.
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Is that your recording?
No, it's from a lady in town who recorded it while she was out running on the trail.
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https://vimeo.com/142101385 (https://vimeo.com/142101385)
This audio was recorded outside Duvall the other night from the Pipeline trail.
Thoughts?
Hey that's right next to me!
FYI there has been a couple spotted in the stossel creek area...right next to the pipe line. Coincidence.... I think not
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https://vimeo.com/142101385 (https://vimeo.com/142101385)
This audio was recorded outside Duvall the other night from the Pipeline trail.
Thoughts?
Jeez. They are getting close....
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Yup.
Them there is wolfies.
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I don't have a lot of volume on my laptop, but from what I could hear it sounds like wolf to me, are there any wolf hybrids being raised in the area or is this in remote country?
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I don't have a lot of volume on my laptop, but from what I could hear it sounds like wolf to me, are there any wolf hybrids being raised in the area or is this in remote country?
Not remote like what you'd call remote in colville terms. But it's outside of town in Duvall. Definitely more woods etc than houses. Stossell Creek that Shank referred to is state forest/large tracts of DNR land. Sort of like your place is relative to downtown Colville Dale.
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Hey, what's just East of that? A big ole hunk of no public entry. Perfect place to dump a couple pups? Nah. Never happen. :yike:
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I believe the stossel creek state forest area buts up to the snoqulime Hancock tree farm
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Skank, I'm ashamed of you. Never snuck In to the watershed? Every body know the good stuff in the shed!
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https://vimeo.com/142101385 (https://vimeo.com/142101385)
This audio was recorded outside Duvall the other night from the Pipeline trail.
Thoughts?
Sounds exactly like it to me...
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I believe the stossel creek state forest area buts up to the snoqulime Hancock tree farm
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Yes it does. Markworth and the west side of Hancock seem like the perfect west side habitat. Lots of prey, plenty of clearcuts where they can see, roads where they can cut off prey, pretty flat so they can move easily, and a big watershed that nobody can access right at the end of the pipeline road.
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Skank, I'm ashamed of you. Never snuck In to the watershed? Every body know the good stuff in the shed!
Are you crazy! There's wolves in there!
That and it's more then 2miles in..that's way to far for me, and they have gates up so its to hard to get the quad in;)
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My camp mates heard wolves behind elk camp last week.
Near above Orr Ridge Rd. In the Nile.
I slept through it.
We heard one near the boarder of manashtash and taneum a week ago around 11:30 one night while getting up to take a piss at elk camp .
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Put lots of miles on the logging roads in Marcworth. Ran in to bears and a cougar......now wolves ;) that sucks.
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I don't have a lot of volume on my laptop, but from what I could hear it sounds like wolf to me, are there any wolf hybrids being raised in the area or is this in remote country?
Not remote like what you'd call remote in colville terms. But it's outside of town in Duvall. Definitely more woods etc than houses. Stossell Creek that Shank referred to is state forest/large tracts of DNR land. Sort of like your place is relative to downtown Colville Dale.
if they are in there it won't be long before someone has one on a game camera.
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I don't have a lot of volume on my laptop, but from what I could hear it sounds like wolf to me, are there any wolf hybrids being raised in the area or is this in remote country?
Not remote like what you'd call remote in colville terms. But it's outside of town in Duvall. Definitely more woods etc than houses. Stossell Creek that Shank referred to is state forest/large tracts of DNR land. Sort of like your place is relative to downtown Colville Dale.
if they are in there it won't be long before someone has one on a game camera.
Hopefully it will be one of my cameras.
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Wolf SEEN in Danville this morning at 10am. I asked the guy that saw it ( non-hunter ) to put up her trail cameras to hopefully get multiple pictures of it..
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My buddy and I were hunting in GMU 204 last Thursday morning 10/22/15. In the lower portion near most of the camping areas off of Mt. Annie Rd. Heard the wolf howl and shortly thereafter saw it run past us in the area we were hunting.
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Saw a wolf cross the road in front of me on 10-25-15. GMU 218. F.s Rd 300 (37 rd system) Okanogan national forest.
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Saw a black one on hwy 20 between mile post 152- 153 between Rainy Pass and Easy Pass trail head today at 1:52. :yike:
Now is that a eastie wolf or westie wolf? :dunno: What pack is in that area? :bash:
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Black wolf seen 2 weeks ago on Boulder Pass, on the east side, about 1/2 mile down from the top of the pass.
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Lots of wolf sightings in SW Stevens county around the Fruitland area in the last 3 weeks. We have been finding dead elk, deer and coyotes on our farm and surrounding property (skinned the coyote out and had no bullet holes only large teeth marks) most have been only partially eaten. Left a report with WDFW. Happy hunting.
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I saw a black wolf in GMU 162 just off of the Robinette Mt. road on 25 Nov 15 at 9:30 AM. It appeared to be feeding on a deer.
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saw this photo on FB couple of days ago, friend of a friend so I did not post.
I grew up on Johnson rd. >:(
its public now
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2015/dec/04/four-canines-likely-wolve-photographed-whitman-county/
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saw this photo on FB couple of days ago, friend of a friend so I did not post.
I grew up on Johnson rd. >:(
its public now
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2015/dec/04/four-canines-likely-wolve-photographed-whitman-county/
Those are just a clever plot by the WDFW decoy animals.
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"Likely wolves"
Look like coyotes to me :dunno:
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Pretty long legs for a coyote
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Well, I guess what I mean is...those pictures are very low quality and I was curious as to why that meant "Likely Wolves"
Since there has been far better evidence and testimony given in the past and it's laughed out of court so to speak.
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Well, I guess what I mean is...those pictures are very low quality and I was curious as to why that meant "Likely Wolves"
Since there has been far better evidence and testimony given in the past and it's laughed out of court so to speak.
very good point
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I think at times, the whole wolf spotting thing starts to bother me. What I mean is as follows:
People text me or in person say, "I saw wolf tracks!" "There are wolves in unit XXX now!" Anymore and my thoughts are, "yeah? so?"
It just gets old because it almost plays into the idea that wolves are rare and not expanded. There are several areas, counties, GMUs that I could literally find a fresh wolf track in before dark tonight. Try doing that with an elk track :chuckle:
Maybe I'm just in a bad mood today
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I think at times, the whole wolf spotting thing starts to bother me. What I mean is as follows:
People text me or in person say, "I saw wolf tracks!" "There are wolves in unit XXX now!" Anymore and my thoughts are, "yeah? so?"
It just gets old because it almost plays into the idea that wolves are rare and not expanded. There are several areas, counties, GMUs that I could literally find a fresh wolf track in before dark tonight. Try doing that with an elk track :chuckle:
Maybe I'm just in a bad mood today
Naw, you are just understanding what is happening to WA, while WDFW etc. sit on their thumbs and pretend WA is still in wolf recovery.
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Saw this one Saturday at 10:45 am on Boulder Pass. I also have a video of him too..
Can someone flip the picture ? I don't know why they aren't posting the right way.
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:mgun:
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You broke the code! What you Navajo?
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:chuckle: :chuckle:
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No wolf catcher on the front of your car?
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Why are you stopped taking pics when you could have been Grabbin gears and spinnin tires!!!!
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:tup:
Thanks.....
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Wife was driving........
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With the photo you must have been on the east side of the summit! Thanks for posting up the photo. But it still does not do much good until the west side gets their share!!! We have had ours for a long time.
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With the photo you must have been on the east side of the summit! Thanks for posting up the photo. But it still does not do much good until the west side gets their share!!! We have had ours for a long time.
It was on the east side of Boulder near Goat Creek.
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So where are the folks in the car ahead of yours? Did the wolf eat them? CNW supporters trying to pet it?
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With the photo you must have been on the east side of the summit! Thanks for posting up the photo. But it still does not do much good until the west side gets their share!!! We have had ours for a long time.
Well we are getting them. 3 saw up Jackman creek drainage yesterday, and they weren't shy at all by the people who saw them. :yike: :yike: :
For those who don't know the area, that's just one ridge line east of Baker Lake. :bash:
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With the photo you must have been on the east side of the summit! Thanks for posting up the photo. But it still does not do much good until the west side gets their share!!! We have had ours for a long time.
Well we are getting them. 3 saw up Jackman creek drainage yesterday, and they weren't shy at all by the people who saw them. :yike: :yike: :
For those who don't know the area, that's just one ridge line east of Baker Lake. :bash:
Buddy had one on his place last week just east of Camden. Alot of the folks over here have just quit talking about them.
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A friend took a video of a wolf along 395 today by the Arden Mill eating on some roadkill between the highway and the railroad tracks.
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A friend took a video of a wolf along 395 today by the Arden Mill eating on some roadkill between the highway and the railroad tracks.
Prove it :tung: :dunno: :chuckle:
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A friend took a video of a wolf along 395 today by the Arden Mill eating on some roadkill between the highway and the railroad tracks.
There is a pack of wolves living in the Arden area since last winter, wolves have been seen many times this summer by people in all directions around Arden. Friends of ours living just off 395 near Arden have seen wolves three times in their field this spring and summer. Horses and cattle have been run through fences and goats have disappeared. One guy in the area lost his whole herd of goats one at a time, all of them.
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A friend took a video of a wolf along 395 today by the Arden Mill eating on some roadkill between the highway and the railroad tracks.
Prove it :tung: :dunno: :chuckle:
The video is on his Facebook page, so I dont know how to link to it as I don't have a Facebook page myself. My wife showed it to me, so I will see if she can link it on here for me.
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Watched 4 wolves chasing 2 does on the high hunt this year. GPW hunting white pass/Indian Head. Reported it to WDFW. Wasn't the only hunter that saw them.
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Oct 6th, 4:30pm, saw a black one at the junction of S Mill Creek Rd and Thomas Mt road, Stevens county.
It was sitting on its haunches when I first saw it. Thought it was a bear at first. Stood up and trotted across the road and thru a semi- open area for about 75 yards. It was on the small size. Did not have my camera with me or it would have been a pretty good picture. About 50 yards from my quad when it moved off the road. Pretty common around here.
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Heard wolves in unit 166 off the end of Green Ridge. Steep thick area never saw them. Observed deer running hell bent for election near Little Turkey Tail ridge, the were acting more like scared Whitetails than Mule deer. Never saw what was on their tail, whatever it was they didn't like it at all.
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Oct 6th, 4:30pm, saw a black one at the junction of S Mill Creek Rd and Thomas Mt road, Stevens county.
It was sitting on its haunches when I first saw it. Thought it was a bear at first. Stood up and trotted across the road and thru a semi- open area for about 75 yards. It was on the small size. Did not have my camera with me or it would have been a pretty good picture. About 50 yards from my quad when it moved off the road. Pretty common around here.
Wonder if that's the one that ran off with a kid's deer head a couple years ago. I think they were camped at the Beaver Lodge when it happened. That one was real young from the story I heard. I saw a picture of the buck, had a pretty nice rack. Never found the head that I heard of.
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does a video clip of them howling at night count? I got some videos on the muzzle loader deer season opener of wolves (pretty positive it was wolves) howling up the canyon from me. audio quality isn't the greatest, and makes em seem further away then they truly are. I was on sand canyon road, just outside of Chewelah.
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does a video clip of them howling at night count? I got some videos on the muzzle loader deer season opener of wolves (pretty positive it was wolves) howling up the canyon from me. audio quality isn't the greatest, and makes em seem further away then they truly are. I was on sand canyon road, just outside of Chewelah.
ive heard the wolves up sand canyon rd.
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I was camped in the first camping site on the left after you cross into national Forest, aboit 75 yds from camp we found some kill sites in early September, old bones that were chewed up and stuff.
Here's one of the videos I took, quality is pretty marginal, came off my cell phone. As I was hiding in my truck lol
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Hard to say for sure with the sound quality but that sounds more like a coyote warning howl to me
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Coyote :yeah:
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Oct 6th, 4:30pm, saw a black one at the junction of S Mill Creek Rd and Thomas Mt road, Stevens county.
It was sitting on its haunches when I first saw it. Thought it was a bear at first. Stood up and trotted across the road and thru a semi- open area for about 75 yards. It was on the small size. Did not have my camera with me or it would have been a pretty good picture. About 50 yards from my quad when it moved off the road. Pretty common around here.
Wonder if that's the one that ran off with a kid's deer head a couple years ago. I think they were camped at the Beaver Lodge when it happened. That one was real young from the story I heard. I saw a picture of the buck, had a pretty nice rack. Never found the head that I heard of.
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Sitka, actually the head was found and returned to the young man. It was found in the spring with the tag still attached. Did some research thru Fish and Game and got the name and address. Sent it to him or is uncle.
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Hard to say for sure with the sound quality but that sounds more like a coyote warning howl to me
Agreed
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Heared several, probably 4 or 5 , wolves howling just after daylight this morning near the intersection of 3330 and 124 roads in the Manastash unit. Spoke to several other hunters in the area that also heared them.
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Heared several, probably 4 or 5 , wolves howling just after daylight this morning near the intersection of 3330 and 124 roads in the Manastash unit. Spoke to several other hunters in the area that also heared them.
Crazy, I was near there yesterday, small world.
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Heared several, probably 4 or 5 , wolves howling just after daylight this morning near the intersection of 3330 and 124 roads in the Manastash unit. Spoke to several other hunters in the area that also heared them.
Crazy, I was near there yesterday, small world.
Did you happen to hear them too?
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Heared several, probably 4 or 5 , wolves howling just after daylight this morning near the intersection of 3330 and 124 roads in the Manastash unit. Spoke to several other hunters in the area that also heared them.
Crazy, I was near there yesterday, small world.
Did you happen to hear them too?
I didn't, but I was a couple miles south of you.
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Right as i was getting into my honey hole this morning had a pack of wolves start howling right on top of me. Saw no deer. :bash:
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Saw a lone wolf in gmu 166 off of the 4022 yesterday. Confirmed by my brother who also seen it. We got a good look at it as it was trotting up the hillside across from us. We are 100% positive. It was huge. Way way bigger then a coyote.
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Uh, has anyone drove highway 2 today around Baring. My husband and I drove through there this morning and he seen a huge dead grey canine on the north side of the highway. He swears that it looked like a dead wolf. I was looking somewhere else and didn't see it. If anyone is in the area, get a good look at it if it's still there.
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Before or after Baring? There are a few people up there that have sled dogs
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I was camped in the first camping site on the left after you cross into national Forest, aboit 75 yds from camp we found some kill sites in early September, old bones that were chewed up and stuff.
Here's one of the videos I took, quality is pretty marginal, came off my cell phone. As I was hiding in my truck lol
Why were you hiding in your truck?
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I was camped in the first camping site on the left after you cross into national Forest, aboit 75 yds from camp we found some kill sites in early September, old bones that were chewed up and stuff.
Here's one of the videos I took, quality is pretty marginal, came off my cell phone. As I was hiding in my truck lol
Why were you hiding in your truck?
Because the yotes were howling. :chuckle:
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Before or after Baring? There are a few people up there that have sled dogs
It was on the straight stretch about a quarter mile after the store heading east.
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Wife and I went to Curlew last Saturday just past the Deer Creek Campground on the west side we had a Large dark animal run across the road and into the waist tall grass. :dunno:
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Could have been a wolf. There's lots of slinky looking young bears around there too.
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Could have been a wolf. There's lots of slinky looking young bears around there too.
Perhaps it could have been a bear but it did have the longest tail that I have ever seen on one then.
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Could have been a wolf. There's lots of slinky looking young bears around there too.
Perhaps it could have been a bear but it did have the longest tail that I have ever seen on one then.
Well you failed to leave that little nugget of information out of the story, or I wouldn't have suggested a bear
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I also neglected the part about the range cattle I could see as well. We have been informed that the Profanity peak wolves have all been removed so I didn't want to be accused of the little boy who cried Wolf. :chuckle:
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Saw 4 wolves this weekend down in the blues, first time seeing them in the wild.
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Tracks of several large canine running over top of a peak S of Bumping Lake Sept 2. Straight line, same direction. 3 to 4 animals. 4" tracks. (Very much NOT coyotes.)
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Wolf tracks on kettle crest trail #13 south this weekend.
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Talk to a very reliable source yesterday, said they saw 7 wolves on the North Summit just off the Loup Loup pass.
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No reason why there wouldn't be wolves there...from your description it sounds like they were right smack dab in the middle of the Loup Loup pack territory map.
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No reason why there wouldn't be wolves there...from your description it sounds like they were right smack dab in the middle of the Loup Loup pack territory map.
:yeah:
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No reason why there wouldn't be wolves there...from your description it sounds like they were right smack dab in the middle of the Loup Loup pack territory map.
:yeah:
No doubt, the "Loup Loup Pack" wolves had been reported to WDFW since 2004, Probably should have posted this on a deer hunting thread for that area.
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saw 2 wolves this morning.1 white 1 grey. GMU 346 . up near lilly pond.was walking on the kaner trail.
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saw 2 wolves this morning.1 white 1 grey. GMU 346 . up near lilly pond.was walking on the kaner trail.
Pics?
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no,they were running. couldnt get phone out fast enough. will be back over thee thursday for the weekend,gonna go to where i saw them.
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Not an actual sighting but the Goodman Meadows pack was extremely vocal yesterday morning up the LeClerc Creek drainage. Howled for a good 15 to 20 mins. Talked to a logger up there that said not too long ago he had a pepper colored wolf cross the road in front of him.
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snow on the ground friday morning when i went back up there to confirm what i saw.
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I saw a lone wolf close to milepost 40 on highway 97 on the way to Goldendale last week. A big, grey and black, mottled coat. Didn't get a picture though.
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Saw a wolf this afternoon around 4pm off the side of I-90. I believe it was just West of the Indian John Hill rest area. Standing in a field.
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http://www.methowvalley.com/bb/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=62849
Talk to a guy the other day who said they saw six wolves in McFarland Creek last week.
Another report today of 8 seen in McFarland Cr.
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Saw two near end of FS 1605 in the Nile 352 GMU on October 24, 2017.
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Found and confirmed wolf tracks today in the 346 near a geological feature.
I know what wolf tracks look like as they are around where I frequent in Idaho. I confirmed what I saw by sending a picture to a buddy who's going to school to finish his masters in wildlife biology.
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This morning my hunting buddy and I went to start working over the local coyotes. The first clear-cut we drove into in the fog he says what you going to do with that. Standing in the road about 50 feet in front of the truck is a large Black wolf. As I fumble for a camera he trots off into the brush. I bail out to try to get a photo and he goes the other way as I go around the back of the truck.
Buddy asked me what I was doing told him I'm getting a photo. Points out that I was unarmed. This is the same area I have spotted a large Black wolf several years ago and only about a mile and a half from that. Perhaps a surviving member of the wedge pack. :dunno:
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I was in Elbe Hills (gmu 654) friday drove up through the snow and found what looked like wolf tracks walking along the road. They were bout the size of a cougar tracks and they went in and out of the woods
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No surprise, but 4 sets of tracks through fresh snow in unit 328. Moved all my bulls off their ridge!! ☹️🤦🏻♀️
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This morning my hunting buddy and I went to start working over the local coyotes. The first clear-cut we drove into in the fog he says what you going to do with that. Standing in the road about 50 feet in front of the truck is a large Black wolf. As I fumble for a camera he trots off into the brush. I bail out to try to get a photo and he goes the other way as I go around the back of the truck.
Buddy asked me what I was doing told him I'm getting a photo. Points out that I was unarmed. This is the same area I have spotted a large Black wolf several years ago and only about a mile and a half from that. Perhaps a surviving member of the wedge pack. :dunno:
I think there are more surviving wolves in the wedge than wdfw knows or claim to know about.
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After they "removed" the wedge pack a few years back I went up and found some tracks, sent the pics in to WDFW and location just in case they wanted to finish the job (they didn't)
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Did you offer to help?
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Seen a wolf today in GMU 121, had a good look, definitely wolf, light gray, large framed wolf, but pretty skinny looking, losing his winter fur, almost got a photo before he went out of sight. No collar.
Friends have seen wolves many times in the Colville Valley on the 121 side. We think WDFW knows they are there, several times a helicopter has showed up after the wolves were seen.
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Friend saw one on Cameron Rd. last week
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I thought I saw 2 last night but they ended up being coyotes
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Coming out of Teanaway forest on Sunday, almost hit a dark colored wolf in my wife's Sequoia, had to slam on the brakes. My wife and kids were impressed by the size. It had a black tracking collar around it's neck, disappeared as fast as it showed up....
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Coming out of Teanaway forest on Sunday, almost hit a dark colored wolf in my wife's Sequoia, had to slam on the brakes. My wife and kids were impressed by the size. It had a black tracking collar around it's neck, disappeared as fast as it showed up....
Why did you break for it. :dunno:
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After they "removed" the wedge pack a few years back I went up and found some tracks, sent the pics in to WDFW and location just in case they wanted to finish the job (they didn't)
This morning I was going to go drowned some worms! There was a lone wolf in the pasture with Judy's Herford's. Was close to a calf and then ran to the timber line and just stood there.
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A black wolf crossing the Lake Cavanaugh Rd above Finn Settlement has been reported. No pictures. Not terribly far from Darrington where a pack is confirmed.
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A black wolf crossing the Lake Cavanaugh Rd above Finn Settlement has been reported. No pictures. Not terribly far from Darrington where a pack is confirmed.
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When was a pack confirmed in Darrington?
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A black wolf crossing the Lake Cavanaugh Rd above Finn Settlement has been reported. No pictures. Not terribly far from Darrington where a pack is confirmed.
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When was a pack confirmed in Darrington?
I'm sorry I got that wrong...there is no confirmed pack near Darrington, however I've heard they are trying to confirm one there.
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Heard wolf howls behind Rimrock Lake this weekend. I then realized I hit the wrong sound on my FoxPro caller.. :chuckle:
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A black wolf crossing the Lake Cavanaugh Rd above Finn Settlement has been reported. No pictures. Not terribly far from Darrington where a pack is confirmed.
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When was a pack confirmed in Darrington?
I'm sorry I got that wrong...there is no confirmed pack near Darrington, however I've heard they are trying to confirm one there.
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Here are 2 sources of why i mistakenly thought they had a documented pack.
https://www.king5.com/article/tech/science/environment/first-wolf-collared-with-gps-west-of-cascades/449324413
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html
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A black wolf crossing the Lake Cavanaugh Rd above Finn Settlement has been reported. No pictures. Not terribly far from Darrington where a pack is confirmed.
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When was a pack confirmed in Darrington?
I'm sorry I got that wrong...there is no confirmed pack near Darrington, however I've heard they are trying to confirm one there.
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Here are 2 sources of why i mistakenly thought they had a documented pack.
https://www.king5.com/article/tech/science/environment/first-wolf-collared-with-gps-west-of-cascades/449324413
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html
That WDFW link is very interesting.
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A black wolf crossing the Lake Cavanaugh Rd above Finn Settlement has been reported. No pictures. Not terribly far from Darrington where a pack is confirmed.
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When was a pack confirmed in Darrington?
I'm sorry I got that wrong...there is no confirmed pack near Darrington, however I've heard they are trying to confirm one there.
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Here are 2 sources of why i mistakenly thought they had a documented pack.
https://www.king5.com/article/tech/science/environment/first-wolf-collared-with-gps-west-of-cascades/449324413
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html
That WDFW link is very interesting.
All of the other packs have those blue circles so that is why I remembered the details wrong...
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I talk to a couple of muzzleloader hunters this afternoon on the S. Summit, I ask him how he was doing he said not too well he hadn't even seen a doe, he did say he watched 8 wolves go through and opening less than 50 yards from where he was set up. He said possible nine, he wasn't sure if he had counted one of them twice.
The second hunter we talk to said they he had seen two 2x2's and one wolf that went by his stand at about a hundred yards out, said it was the first time he was actually a bit scared of a wolf, he said it was huge.
He hadn't heard about the wolf attack this summer so I told him all about it.
He said he had nine rounds on his hip and one in the muzzleloader if the wolf wanted to make an issue.
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So anyone herd about the pack up at Baker Lake?
A FB post from February 2017.
States a little behind on recognizing the pack huh.🤔
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I did see wolf scat off Jackman creek. I'm fairly certain.
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Saw a large solo wolf off grade creek above Manson. Manson gmu.
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They have Skagit on the map but I haven’t heard if it’s identified as a pack, breeding pair or how many wolves are in there.
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So anyone herd about the pack up at Baker Lake?
A FB post from February 2017.
States a little behind on recognizing the pack huh.🤔
Pretty sure the state has recognized the presence since around 05. :dunno:
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So anyone herd about the pack up at Baker Lake?
A FB post from February 2017.
States a little behind on recognizing the pack huh.🤔
Pretty sure the state has recognized the presence since around 05. :dunno:
The previous pack was hozomeen and up by Ross lake. This pack is different. I think that pack is still there but dens in Canada.
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Heard wolves in GMU215 this Oct. A party member saw a dark, almost black one, at close range. Based on our interactions there is a decent sized pack running around that area..... Sad....
There were NOT coyotes, and I if it helps I lived in Alaska for over a decade so I have seen and heard wolves before....
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So anyone herd about the pack up at Baker Lake?
A FB post from February 2017.
States a little behind on recognizing the pack huh.🤔
Pretty sure the state has recognized the presence since around 05. :dunno:
The previous pack was hozomeen and up by Ross lake. This pack is different. I think that pack is still there but dens in Canada.
You have confirmation on a pack?
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My cousin and I spotted 2 wolves while out scouting some property south of Davenport for late muzzy. Subsequently saw no whitetails, there is usually a heard of 15-20 does running around the property. Saw some mule deer but not nearly as many as usual.
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So anyone herd about the pack up at Baker Lake?
A FB post from February 2017.
States a little behind on recognizing the pack huh.🤔
Pretty sure the state has recognized the presence since around 05. :dunno:
The previous pack was hozomeen and up by Ross lake. This pack is different. I think that pack is still there but dens in Canada.
You have confirmation on a pack?
I don't. WDFW has recognized Skagit as pack on its Wolf Observation page.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html (https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html)
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Loggers have known about wolves up Jackman Creek for a LOOoong time.. Jackman is just east of the Baker lake damn on 20.
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So anyone herd about the pack up at Baker Lake?
A FB post from February 2017.
States a little behind on recognizing the pack huh.🤔
Pretty sure the state has recognized the presence since around 05. :dunno:
The previous pack was hozomeen and up by Ross lake. This pack is different. I think that pack is still there but dens in Canada.
You have confirmation on a pack?
I don't. WDFW has recognized Skagit as pack on its Wolf Observation page.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html (https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html)
Interesting because in the actual packs page it doesn’t recognize it
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So anyone herd about the pack up at Baker Lake?
A FB post from February 2017.
States a little behind on recognizing the pack huh.🤔
Pretty sure the state has recognized the presence since around 05. :dunno:
The previous pack was hozomeen and up by Ross lake. This pack is different. I think that pack is still there but dens in Canada.
You have confirmation on a pack?
I don't. WDFW has recognized Skagit as pack on its Wolf Observation page.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html (https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html)
Interesting because in the actual packs page it doesn’t recognize it
That is because it is a USFWS collar pn the wolf not a WDFW omw. As I remember the area is N of Darrington South of the Skagit, perhaps east some on USFS land.
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So anyone herd about the pack up at Baker Lake?
A FB post from February 2017.
States a little behind on recognizing the pack huh.🤔
Pretty sure the state has recognized the presence since around 05. :dunno:
The previous pack was hozomeen and up by Ross lake. This pack is different. I think that pack is still there but dens in Canada.
You have confirmation on a pack?
I don't. WDFW has recognized Skagit as pack on its Wolf Observation page.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html (https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html)
I like the red dots in the waters of Puget Sound, they must be sea wolf’s. 🤣
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So anyone herd about the pack up at Baker Lake?
A FB post from February 2017.
States a little behind on recognizing the pack huh.🤔
Pretty sure the state has recognized the presence since around 05. :dunno:
The previous pack was hozomeen and up by Ross lake. This pack is different. I think that pack is still there but dens in Canada.
You have confirmation on a pack?
I don't. WDFW has recognized Skagit as pack on its Wolf Observation page.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html (https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html)
I like the red dots in the waters of Puget Sound, they must be sea wolf’s. 🤣
Sea wolves..... think Orcas are called "wolves of the sea" just might work :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Black one running west just west of Concrete this morning by the high hill to the north, I never seen something run so fast to getaway from a car, tried climbing the bank but couldn’t do it.
Wish he would have come out into the road, that would have been a squished 🐺🤣.
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Black one running west just west of Concrete this morning by the high hill to the north, I never seen something run so fast to getaway from a car, tried climbing the bank but couldn’t do it.
Wish he would have come out into the road, that would have been a squished 🐺🤣.
Did it have a collar? The usfw collared one is black.
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Black one running west just west of Concrete this morning by the high hill to the north, I never seen something run so fast to getaway from a car, tried climbing the bank but couldn’t do it.
Wish he would have come out into the road, that would have been a squished 🐺🤣.
Did it have a collar? The usfw collared one is black.
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Little to dark at 4am to see a collar, plus the collar is probably black as well.
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Talked to my neighbor today, his friend saw four in Hearn’s field just west of my siting last Sunday.
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So anyone herd about the pack up at Baker Lake?
A FB post from February 2017.
States a little behind on recognizing the pack huh.🤔
Pretty sure the state has recognized the presence since around 05. :dunno:
The previous pack was hozomeen and up by Ross lake. This pack is different. I think that pack is still there but dens in Canada.
You have confirmation on a pack?
I don't. WDFW has recognized Skagit as pack on its Wolf Observation page.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html (https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/sightings.html)
Interesting because in the actual packs page it doesn’t recognize it
That is because it is a USFWS collar pn the wolf not a WDFW omw. As I remember the area is N of Darrington South of the Skagit, perhaps east some on USFS land.
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@Special T
Can you explain this?
I don't understand why the Skagit pack shows up on one map but not the other? t looks like the same map except no Skagit pack? Thanks,
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No real big surprise but I cut these tracks up the mill creek drainage a couple days ago. This was the biggest one but looked like maybe 3 or 4 together.
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Had a hunter tell me that he watched WDFW drop a pair of them on the south climb of Mt Adams scouting this fall and when he asked what they were doing they said nothing..... not sure how valid this is but if they are behind the back covert dropping to hide the agenda.....
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Had a hunter tell me that he watched WDFW drop a pair of them on the south climb of Mt Adams scouting this fall and when he asked what they were doing they said nothing..... not sure how valid this is but if they are behind the back covert dropping to hide the agenda.....
You're not the first to have 2nd, 3rd or 5th hand reports of this activity. Too bad we don't have something more concrete.
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Had a hunter tell me that he watched WDFW drop a pair of them on the south climb of Mt Adams scouting this fall and when he asked what they were doing they said nothing..... not sure how valid this is but if they are behind the back covert dropping to hide the agenda.....
You're not the first to have 2nd, 3rd or 5th hand reports of this activity. Too bad we don't have something more concrete.
he said they told him that he "see's nothing". i would have been recording the whole act!
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Had a hunter tell me that he watched WDFW drop a pair of them on the south climb of Mt Adams scouting this fall and when he asked what they were doing they said nothing..... not sure how valid this is but if they are behind the back covert dropping to hide the agenda.....
You're not the first to have 2nd, 3rd or 5th hand reports of this activity. Too bad we don't have something more concrete.
he said they told him that he "see's nothing". i would have been recording the whole act!
They're probably cattle eating wolves from the profanity peak area.....
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Jan 21, 2019
Wolf standing on main street in the town of Blue Creek, reported to WDFW, helicopter showed up about 45 minutes later and appeared to be herding the wolf back up Iron Mountain. I'm pretty sure this wolf belongs to the same group of wolves that has made the Colville Valley part of their regular range.
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,235793.0.html
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Jan 22,2019
Orient School Bus driver and riders saw a wolf in a field on his route. He and the riders watched it for about 10 minutes. This sighting while not right near any houses was close enough to draw concern from the driver. Under a 1/4 mile from the closest.
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Jan 24, 2019
Wolf seen by several homeowners in the Colville Valley between Addy and Arden. Believed to be one of several wolves that has been being seen in the valley for quite some time now.
Jan 26, 2019
Wolf spotted about 30 yards from a home near the Arden Mill, residents think this wolf is hunting dogs and cats as he has been seen close to several homes.
Jan 26, 2019
Wolf tracks found where cattle are being fed, between Arden and Addy, rancher moved all the full grown cattle into an open field next to the house and moved all the younger half grown calves into a coral next to the house to try to prevent any losses.
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Jan 24, 2019
Wolf seen by several homeowners in the Colville Valley between Addy and Arden. Believed to be one of several wolves that has been being seen in the valley for quite some time now.
Jan 26, 2019
Wolf spotted about 30 yards from a home near the Arden Mill, residents think this wolf is hunting dogs and cats as he has been seen close to several homes.
Jan 26, 2019
Wolf tracks found where cattle are being fed, between Arden and Addy, rancher moved all the full grown cattle into an open field next to the house and moved all the younger half grown calves into a coral next to the house to try to prevent any losses.
Didn't the professional wolf management team show up and herd this wayward animal back to safety? Or not.
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Professional wolf management? Even if they hazed them off they would be back before the engine cooled if that is where they wish to be.
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Jan 24, 2019
Wolf seen by several homeowners in the Colville Valley between Addy and Arden. Believed to be one of several wolves that has been being seen in the valley for quite some time now.
Jan 26, 2019
Wolf spotted about 30 yards from a home near the Arden Mill, residents think this wolf is hunting dogs and cats as he has been seen close to several homes.
Jan 26, 2019
Wolf tracks found where cattle are being fed, between Arden and Addy, rancher moved all the full grown cattle into an open field next to the house and moved all the younger half grown calves into a coral next to the house to try to prevent any losses.
Didn't the professional wolf management team show up and herd this wayward animal back to safety? Or not.
There's more than one wolf, singles and doubles of varying colors have been spotted for the last couple years, I'm not sure exactly how many there are, at least 3 or more different wolves are seen off and on around the valley. Most of the time they are only watching cattle and horses, which usually group up close to barns when wolves are around. When you haul feed to the usual feed spot and the animals won't go there, you know the wolves are close. I've only heard of cattle being attacked once in the valley so far, but nearly all packs eventually go for the beef, so it's just a matter of time.
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There's more than one wolf ? :yike: Singles and doubles of varying colors have been rumored to have been spotted for the last couple years. Mostly unverified. We not sure exactly how many there are, at least 3 or more different wolves/coyotes are seen off and on around the valley. Most of the time they are only watching cattle and horses, which usually group up close to barns when wolves/coyotes are around. When you haul feed to the usual feed spot and the animals won't go there, you know the wolves/coyotes are close. I've only heard of cattle being attacked once in the valley so far, but nearly all packs eventually go for the old & sick beef, so it's just a matter of time.
The above statement has been edited to reflect the WDFW Professional Wolf Management team
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There's more than one wolf ? :yike: Singles and doubles of varying colors have been rumored to have been spotted for the last couple years. Mostly unverified. We not sure exactly how many there are, at least 3 or more different wolves/coyotes are seen off and on around the valley. Most of the time they are only watching cattle and horses, which usually group up close to barns when wolves/coyotes are around. When you haul feed to the usual feed spot and the animals won't go there, you know the wolves/coyotes are close. I've only heard of cattle being attacked once in the valley so far, but nearly all packs eventually go for the old & sick beef, so it's just a matter of time.
The above statement has been edited to reflect the WDFW Professional Wolf Management team
:yeah: About the truth... LOL :chuckle:
I mentioned one rancher moved all their cattle for safety a few days ago. Yesterday another local resident told us their cattle broke down the fence around their house in the valley during the night and were all in the yard close to the house. They went out in the morning inspecting everything, sure enough wolf tracks all around! It's probably just a matter of time and those choppers that have been chasing the wolves "Colville Valley Pack" back up the mountain will be shooting wolves!
The wolves have found the beef and want it!
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Wolf or wolf hybrid north of moses lake. Was out mousing between two hay fields. Appears to have a little Shepherd in him so assume hybrid but very large and wild animal. Sorry for the poor picture our lab/shephard mix was trying his best to catch him.
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Camping ⛺️ in the tuccannon this weekend we were surprised to see the elk real low along the river. Was fun watching them all day Saturday. Saturday night (11ish) with the asleep and playing cards the dogs became extremely scared. Shaking profusely and not wanting to move. They had been making the rounds about camp. The little lap dog was growling and barking so off we set to get the story of what was happening. Two wolves had made their way behind our camp while three others made it around the backside of camp. The furthest being a boy 100 yards from camp the two I saw were less than 75 yards. The three of us are woodsman and know the difference from a coyote and wolf. They were there because of the elk. And yes can assure you they won’t be leaving the area as long as the food is there.
I am going to relay this message to WDFW as well.
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They would love to get your little dog too
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3/8/19 10:30am
3 crossed Heine rd. heading toward the colville river just north of Steinmetz rd. about 3 miles north of Chewelah.
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Between Gifford and Hunters, WA. Bissel / Clark Lake area.
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September 2018. Two wolves spotted at 50 yards or so. GPS Coordinates: 46.913144, -121.153578 GMU 352
Large Blackish one and Gray/Brown/Black mix colored one.
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September 2018. Two wolves spotted at 50 yards or so. GPS Coordinates: 46.913144, -121.153578 GMU 352
Large Blackish one and Gray/Brown/Black mix colored one.
Never heard of or seen a grey / brown / black mix wolf. Sounds like a domestic dog to me.
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September 2018. Two wolves spotted at 50 yards or so. GPS Coordinates: 46.913144, -121.153578 GMU 352
Large Blackish one and Gray/Brown/Black mix colored one.
Never heard of or seen a grey / brown / black mix wolf. Sounds like a domestic dog to me.
Poor description on my part then, it was in dark timber so it was probably white/tan/black ish. Looked like this guy, running with a blackish one. Definitely not a domestic dog.
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That looks grey/brown/blackish to me :tup:
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Wolf sightings are so commonplace every week in NE WA that I quit posting about them in this topic. I did hear today about wolves being in a horse pasture with some horses, cows have been the wolves main focus, fortunately they didn't go after the horses, but it seems like they typically watch new types of prey quite a lot before they take on something new, I fear it will only be a matter of time until the horse owner has problems.
Almost forgot to mention, this was unit 121 in the Colville Valley, the same wolves that have been watching cattle in the same area, it's just a matter of time with these wolves!
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I know this is like urinating into the wind!! All I accomplish is getting my knees wet! On 9/23/19 the dawg was looking for work and she and I made a recon run in 105. Grouse were pretty slim pickings but on the way back to the house we had a large canine standing off the road and just watched us. It didn't seem to be scared. It just strolled into the timber.
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Unit 101 Vulcan Mtn. October 2019
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...lovely... looks like a young one.
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Once again i got to enjoy being serenaded (sp?) by the stranger pack last night. Stepped outside to take a leak at 9:30pm and heared them howling maybe 300 yards from my house. Went on sporadically until 10:20pm.
All the granola types protect wolves because they "would love to hear wolves howl someday."
When its right in your back yard and you have to worry about pets safety, or the neighbor kids who are no more than 100 yards from the howling pack, its not so romantic anymore. The helicopters chasing them around your neighborhood, right over your roof, shooting noise makers that sound like shotguns, thats not so romantic either. But the idiots in their studio apartments in seattle dont consider these things.
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Once again i got to enjoy being serenaded (sp?) by the stranger pack last night. Stepped outside to take a leak at 9:30pm and heared them howling maybe 300 yards from my house. Went on sporadically until 10:20pm.
All the granola types protect wolves because they "would love to hear wolves howl someday."
When its right in your back yard and you have to worry about pets safety, or the neighbor kids who are no more than 100 yards from the howling pack, its not so romantic anymore. The helicopters chasing them around your neighborhood, right over your roof, shooting noise makers that sound like shotguns, thats not so romantic either. But the idiots in their studio apartments in seattle dont consider these things.
Right.🤬
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Unit 101 Vulcan Mtn. October 2019
Same area.
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Once again i got to enjoy being serenaded (sp?) by the stranger pack last night. Stepped outside to take a leak at 9:30pm and heared them howling maybe 300 yards from my house. Went on sporadically until 10:20pm.
All the granola types protect wolves because they "would love to hear wolves howl someday."
When its right in your back yard and you have to worry about pets safety, or the neighbor kids who are no more than 100 yards from the howling pack, its not so romantic anymore. The helicopters chasing them around your neighborhood, right over your roof, shooting noise makers that sound like shotguns, thats not so romantic either. But the idiots in their studio apartments in seattle dont consider these things.
Well, just heard they killed somebodys dog up off orin-rice rd.
I am jacks complete lack of surprise.
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Ya, read that too.
People aren't going to shoot the wolves because:
1) they're afraid they'll get in trouble if they do
2) don't have a gun
3) don't have a gun handy when they need it
4) couldn't hit anything anyways
5) not home when the wolves come eat their pets
in any case, I don't expect that *most* people will "handle" the situation even when they're fully justified to do so.
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Ya, read that too.
People aren't going to shoot the wolves because:
1) they're afraid they'll get in trouble if they do
2) don't have a gun
3) don't have a gun handy when they need it
4) couldn't hit anything anyways
5) not home when the wolves come eat their pets
in any case, I don't expect that *most* people will "handle" the situation even when they're fully justified to do so.
Pretty much sums it up. Anybody living here needs a loaded long gun ready to rock at home at all times, and at least a sidearm on them when theyre out and about. Have them available, learn to use them, and dont be afraid to use them. Dont be a grass eater. Sharpen your teeth.
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GMU 133 North of Davenport;
We have seen upwards of 5 in the last two years, 3 of them on trail cam and confirmed by wdfw other two have been seen on foot (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200207/acbb8d81da44fccc3519b2ddba4e37ac.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200207/08d9f5b7ee083e8bd33e1ca5860ec0ee.jpg)
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middle of gmu 121
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Please keep watch and report in 133, whitetail numbers are a small fraction of average over decades and as bearpaw says, problems are expected.
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Please keep watch and report in 133, whitetail numbers are a small fraction of average over decades and as bearpaw says, problems are expected.
Whitetail numbers and mule deer numbers in 133 are the worst I have ever seen. Blue tongue and way to many cats in this gmu. Now wolfs are starting to show up. Something needs to be done with predator management or there isn't gonna be anything left. Not many fawns survive cause there is to many predators. Sad deal
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Please keep watch and report in 133, whitetail numbers are a small fraction of average over decades and as bearpaw says, problems are expected.
Whitetail numbers and mule deer numbers in 133 are the worst I have ever seen. Blue tongue and way to many cats in this gmu. Now wolfs are starting to show up. Something needs to be done with predator management or there isn't gonna be anything left. Not many fawns survive cause there is to many predators. Sad deal
133 is still open for lions, weather should be nice this weekend, freshish snow on the ground. Just sayin.
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Date and time are correct. Unit 121.....second time I have had wolves on camera.
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Thanks for sharing.
That one looks skinny/hungry.
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Thanks for sharing.
That one looks skinny/hungry.
All three of the wolves I have on camera look very bad.....one almost looked like it had mange.
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Thanks for sharing.
That one looks skinny/hungry.
All three of the wolves I have on camera look very bad.....one almost looked like it had mange.
Maybe your camera is set up in the wolf outcast lands.🤣
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Date and time are correct. Unit 121.....second time I have had wolves on camera.
Weak link in the pack. outcast
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Stevens County. Heard them last weekend and found their tracks this weekend. I've got a size 15 boot too...big tracks! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200526/c358fa02917f614768afa754e34955d6.jpg)
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Dang looks like the size of the tracks I saw in Idaho last year
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418 - south side of Baker at 5600ft. No trail on this ridge, no boot tracks in the snow so I’m thinking wolves? Three sets of tracks running up a ridge at snowline, all similar sized. Size 13 lowa for comparison.
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Saw a large dark grey wolf in 437 last fall
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Also found a ton of wolf tracks mixed in with elk tracks the winter before both spots were within a few miles from my house. Tried to post pics of the tracks but doesn’t seem to work from my phone, no pics of the wolf as I was a bit shocked both by the size and the fact that I was looking at wolf so close in first place. Found tracks in the mud that year north of lake Cavanaugh area too
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Also found a ton of wolf tracks mixed in with elk tracks the winter before both spots were within a few miles from my house. Tried to post pics of the tracks but doesn’t seem to work from my phone, no pics of the wolf as I was a bit shocked both by the size and the fact that I was looking at wolf so close in first place. Found tracks in the mud that year north of lake Cavanaugh area too
Take a screenshot of the photo on your phone and then post the screenshot. Works virtually every time.
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Tracks
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Thanks for the tip
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I joined the forum back in 2012, but haven't been active on the forum until recently.
I'll have to dig through some pictures to find them, but I have pics of wolf tracks in GMU346 just above Sand Creek from the 2012 modern firearm elk hunting season. We weren't packing cell phones in the woods like we do now. So it was taken with a digital camera, and downloaded onto my old laptop. 3 sets of wolf tracks after a fresh snowfall during the evening before opening morning. Every animal track on opening morning was fresh in the new fallen snow. My hunting partner and I were barely a half mile out of camp when we cut elk tracks. Then we noticed 3 sets of wolf tracks following the elk tracks.
We now see tracks and wolf sign up there almost every year. The 2018 season we heard them howling one evening from the direction of Fife's ridge as well.
Gary
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Just saw two large wolves on I5 northbound at exit 60 in the Toledo area at 130 am on 9/25/20. This would be gmu 505.
One was the traditional gray color the other was solid black.
I was driving a semi truck southbound when I saw what I first thought were a couple deer walking underneath the highway lights right at exit 60 northbound. I got closer and saw they were actually two very large wolves trotting out into the highway. I slowed way down to be sure because I hardly believed what I was seeing. They had walked mostly out into the north lanes when they saw some incoming traffic and started headed back off the freeway to the east.
Gonna try to upload a onx pic of the exact location.
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Unit 133 north of Davenport
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Cougar track
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pine needles just ask WDFW
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Unit 133 north of Davenport
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Cougar track
:yeah: cougar
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Nothing to see here :chuckle:
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Dawg and I made a run looking for a road cheecken for her. Found what was left of a range cow. Not much left but the ribs and back bone. Hooves and the hide were still there. Got back to the house and called the rancher who runs the range. Told him where to find the remains.
This is in the wedge pack range. And wdfw informed us that they have removed all of the culprits.
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Dawg and I made a run looking for a road cheecken for her. Found what was left of a range cow. Not much left but the ribs and back bone. Hooves and the hide were still there. Got back to the house and called the rancher who runs the range. Told him where to find the remains.
This is in the wedge pack range. And wdfw informed us that they have removed all of the culprits.
where have we heard this story before :dunno: :rolleyes:
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Dawg and I made a run looking for a road cheecken for her. Found what was left of a range cow. Not much left but the ribs and back bone. Hooves and the hide were still there. Got back to the house and called the rancher who runs the range. Told him where to find the remains.
This is in the wedge pack range. And wdfw informed us that they have removed all of the culprits.
where have we heard this story before :dunno: :rolleyes:
He said that he believes what the wdfw says just as long as their lips aren't moving. :chuckle:
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Drove past the crime scene and apparently forensics was there. Most of the remnants had been removed. Except the hide. Did not see any crime tape. 😏
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Saw one Saturday about 9:30 PM. Foot on the fog line of HWY 20 between Mazama and Winthrop, just down valley from the bridge. Big white one.
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Dawg and I made a run looking for a road cheecken for her. Found what was left of a range cow. Not much left but the ribs and back bone. Hooves and the hide were still there. Got back to the house and called the rancher who runs the range. Told him where to find the remains.
This is in the wedge pack range. And wdfw informed us that they have removed all of the culprits.
where have we heard this story before :dunno: :rolleyes:
Well, since wdfw has removed all the culprits, it must be just big coyotes ... right???
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This last week while looking for a mule deer or should be called unicorns. Ran across a fresh cow poo that was still mushy green that had not skimmed yet. In the middle of it was a huge dog print. Just over the hill from where they were flying the choppers this summer.
Not sure I am fully convinced that they are telling the truth.
Ran into the cowboys rounding up range stock in ferry County and asked about mulies. His response was to go gut a wolf and you can find a mulie.
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Sunday the 17th I saw 3 wolves trotting down the middle of the road on the Twisp Calton rd, about 3 miles out of Twisp, 8:30 in the morning, they went off on the river side.
How things have changed in the last 30 years, we went from seeing hundreds of deer in the winter to practically none, unless we go to town.