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Quote from: bigtex on December 07, 2021, 12:04:01 PMQuote from: Torrent50 on December 07, 2021, 11:35:19 AMI was also told that they are drafting legislation to be presented at the session starting in January to remove the setting of hunting seasons and regulations from the Commission and make it part of the legislative process as is done in most other states. I'm not sure exactly how I feel about this, knowing some of the other decisions that the legislature makes. But, they would be less likely to make a decision based on emotion and ignore the science. The one thing it would provide is many more pressure points for us, as citizens, to apply pressure to make quality decisions.First off, this is not done in "most other states." Also, this would mean the democrat controlled legislature and the governor would approve hunting seasons, how do you think that will fare for us?Sorry, but this is a TERRIBLE proposal!Thanks, bigtex. Perfect response !!!
Quote from: Torrent50 on December 07, 2021, 11:35:19 AMI was also told that they are drafting legislation to be presented at the session starting in January to remove the setting of hunting seasons and regulations from the Commission and make it part of the legislative process as is done in most other states. I'm not sure exactly how I feel about this, knowing some of the other decisions that the legislature makes. But, they would be less likely to make a decision based on emotion and ignore the science. The one thing it would provide is many more pressure points for us, as citizens, to apply pressure to make quality decisions.First off, this is not done in "most other states." Also, this would mean the democrat controlled legislature and the governor would approve hunting seasons, how do you think that will fare for us?Sorry, but this is a TERRIBLE proposal!
I was also told that they are drafting legislation to be presented at the session starting in January to remove the setting of hunting seasons and regulations from the Commission and make it part of the legislative process as is done in most other states. I'm not sure exactly how I feel about this, knowing some of the other decisions that the legislature makes. But, they would be less likely to make a decision based on emotion and ignore the science. The one thing it would provide is many more pressure points for us, as citizens, to apply pressure to make quality decisions.
Quote from: Igor on December 07, 2021, 12:06:42 PMQuote from: bigtex on December 07, 2021, 12:04:01 PMQuote from: Torrent50 on December 07, 2021, 11:35:19 AMI was also told that they are drafting legislation to be presented at the session starting in January to remove the setting of hunting seasons and regulations from the Commission and make it part of the legislative process as is done in most other states. I'm not sure exactly how I feel about this, knowing some of the other decisions that the legislature makes. But, they would be less likely to make a decision based on emotion and ignore the science. The one thing it would provide is many more pressure points for us, as citizens, to apply pressure to make quality decisions.First off, this is not done in "most other states." Also, this would mean the democrat controlled legislature and the governor would approve hunting seasons, how do you think that will fare for us?Sorry, but this is a TERRIBLE proposal!Thanks, bigtex. Perfect response !!!Well, we have a commission that is appointed (or left vacant) by the Democrat Governor and approved by the Democrat run senate making decisions for "social" reasons right now......so.......... Like I said, I would have to see the details of the bill and how this would be handled, but my guess is that WDFW would propose the seasons and rules and they would just need to be voted on by the legislature. Let's be honest, most of them don't care about hunting seasons and will vote to approve whatever the WDFW puts in front of them. There have to be a few Democrats that hunt.
Quote from: Torrent50 on December 07, 2021, 12:20:34 PMQuote from: Igor on December 07, 2021, 12:06:42 PMQuote from: bigtex on December 07, 2021, 12:04:01 PMQuote from: Torrent50 on December 07, 2021, 11:35:19 AMI was also told that they are drafting legislation to be presented at the session starting in January to remove the setting of hunting seasons and regulations from the Commission and make it part of the legislative process as is done in most other states. I'm not sure exactly how I feel about this, knowing some of the other decisions that the legislature makes. But, they would be less likely to make a decision based on emotion and ignore the science. The one thing it would provide is many more pressure points for us, as citizens, to apply pressure to make quality decisions.First off, this is not done in "most other states." Also, this would mean the democrat controlled legislature and the governor would approve hunting seasons, how do you think that will fare for us?Sorry, but this is a TERRIBLE proposal!Thanks, bigtex. Perfect response !!!Well, we have a commission that is appointed (or left vacant) by the Democrat Governor and approved by the Democrat run senate making decisions for "social" reasons right now......so.......... Like I said, I would have to see the details of the bill and how this would be handled, but my guess is that WDFW would propose the seasons and rules and they would just need to be voted on by the legislature. Let's be honest, most of them don't care about hunting seasons and will vote to approve whatever the WDFW puts in front of them. There have to be a few Democrats that hunt.And if the legislature fails to pass that year's hunting season what happens? No hunting for that year? It's not common for bills to take several years to finally get passed. Seasons are approved every year, there is no default.Commissioners can be not approved by the legislature, in fact several of Inslee's previous appointees have withdrawn because they weren't going to get approved. So there is a process to try and shape the commission. We have a legislature that this year approved a law to ban condiment packets, and other plastic eating utensils. You think they're going to be nice to hunters? Several years ago a state Senator in public session called WDFW Enforcement racist for trying to retain the little authority they have over tribal hunting enforcement. Do you think that Senator will be nice to hunters?There is a reason why most state's don't do what MacEwen is supposedly proposing.
I honestly believe that the season setting process would probably remain the same, with public comment, meetings, etc and then seasons set for the next three year period. But instead of those getting approved by the Commission, they would get approved by the legislature. I think that most of those types of actions end up being a rubber stamp approval process. I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of legislators would not read the season dates and rules to see if they agreed, but would simply vote to approve since WDFW did the work and said that is what they want. As it stands now, it only takes one or two commissioners to go rogue and suddenly things are drastically changed. It would take a lot more legislators to cause the same result.
The problem is the guy nominating people, not necessarily the people themselves. He can find 1,000 anti hunters to fill that spot, just keep naming them, dragging feet and you get nowhere. He could even start nominating worse candidates. The commission needs better legislation around how they get formed and what the makeup is. Right now, it's 3 west, 3 east and 3 at large. It should be broken down into interest groups. Figure out 5-9 interest groups and a way to nominate people from that group. Take as much of it out of the political sphere as possible.
Thank you for saying it out loud Special T"Sportsmen are the only group that do not sue. As a result we can be used and abused by all parties"The hunting community at large bitches and complains, but they do nothing.Victims will be Victims...