collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires  (Read 6171 times)

Offline bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39203
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« on: January 29, 2013, 12:07:54 PM »

Offline Bob33

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2009
  • Posts: 21774
  • Groups: SCI, RMEF, NRA, Hunter Education
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2013, 12:39:37 PM »
That is interesting. I would like to see the long term data on "drought" for these areas.
Nature. It's cheaper than therapy.

Offline X-Force

  • Solo Hunter
  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2007
  • Posts: 5572
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2013, 01:13:03 PM »
Interesting but they seem to want their cake and eat it too. They say that beetles dont cause wild fires to spread and that they could actually help prevent their spread because of the lack of canopy from dead trees. They also say that the droughts are causing the beetle populations to increase, while fire prevalence continues to increase.
If the drought is causing the beetle population to thrive wouldnt it also stem the increased threat of fire from the drought?

It does make sense that the fire load would decrease once the trees are void of needles.

The other thing this article didnt address is that once the trees die their roots no longer hold the soils in place... So more erosion could occur and may be more damaging then putting in roads thinning the trees and replanting...
People get offended at nothing at all. So, speak your mind and be unapologetic.

Offline BOWHUNTER45

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 14731
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2013, 01:23:58 PM »
 :yike: here is another bad subject for me to put my nose into  :dunno: :bash: :bash: as you drive over Hwy 20 from Sedro Woolley to Winthrop you have Hundreds of acres of trees dying from the dang bettles ...So the state and all their greenies choose to leave them there to rot .. Why not cut them down and plant New Healthy ones  :dunno: Dah !! Then you have these idiots who can not face the truth knowing the bettles killed the trees and there for they have died and there for they have caused fires ... I am lost as usual !!  :yeah:

Offline logger

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2007
  • Posts: 1142
  • Location: troutlake wa.
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 03:39:46 PM »
I agree that it's not the reason for fires, I believe though that it's the reason they burn so hot. Every briefing I went to while on a fire they harped and harped about the beetle killed timber. As usaul the forest service will study it to death with little to no action on gettin in there and doing something about it. The  forest service has become the biggest group of leaf lickers there is,apparently studies pay big money and doing what is best for the resource is secondary.
go ahead on er.

Offline Humptulips

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Old Salt
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2010
  • Posts: 9118
  • Location: Humptulips
    • Washington State Trappers Association
  • Groups: WSTA, NTA, FTA, OTA, WWC, WFW, NRA
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2013, 11:14:28 PM »
 :yeah:

No one wants to make a decision so they study it to death.
Bruce Vandervort

Offline dreamingbig

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2007
  • Posts: 2819
  • Location: Mukilteo, WA
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2013, 09:26:38 AM »
 :bash: who said they were the reason?  What they do is provide a lot more fuel to burn so that the fires are bigger and hotter once started.
@mukbowhunt
Avid Bowhunter
Maxxis 35 / Trykon XL

Offline motg9_6

  • These animals are gods gift first before government's possessions. If it is illegal for a man to fend for himself then he can not be a man in his own right!
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 951
  • Location: Klickitat county
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2013, 09:43:15 AM »
 :yeah:

Offline BOWHUNTER45

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 14731
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2013, 01:23:04 PM »
 :dunno: What a joke ... the dang beetles kill the trees and then the trees become dried out because they are now dead ...what makes the fire burn hotter ? Birrr dirrr !!!! and yes the beetle is the main cause of the fires because they killed the trees in the 1st place ....why I never went to college is beyond me  :chuckle: :chuckle:

Offline Wazukie

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 2674
  • Location: The Woods
  • Groups: NRA
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2013, 01:28:06 PM »
I din't kno dat a beetle could start a fire  :dunno:
Matthew 6:33

Offline Curly

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Legend
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 20921
  • Location: Thurston County
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2013, 01:53:34 PM »
 :lol4:
May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.

><((((º>` ><((((º>. ><((((º>.¸><((((º>

Offline MadHatter

  • Coyote Eradication Specialist
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2012
  • Posts: 517
  • Location: Kitsap County
  • Gun Rights Examiner @ Examiner.com
  • Groups: NRA,WPHA,SAF,CCRKB
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2013, 06:06:02 PM »
The moral of the story in this article is to push the climate change agenda... Four times in the story mention it, as if pounding saying the same thing over and over makes it more true... :bash:
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ - I DARE YOU

Offline JLS

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2010
  • Posts: 4623
  • Location: In my last tracks.....
  • Groups: Support the LWCF!
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2013, 10:41:19 AM »
The moral of the story in this article is to push the climate change agenda... Four times in the story mention it, as if pounding saying the same thing over and over makes it more true... :bash:

If you don't believe climate change is real you should.  One doesn't have to be an Al Gore groupie to see the effects of climate change in subalpine and montane environments across the Rocky Mountains and Pacific NW.
Matthew 7:13-14

Offline motg9_6

  • These animals are gods gift first before government's possessions. If it is illegal for a man to fend for himself then he can not be a man in his own right!
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 951
  • Location: Klickitat county
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2013, 05:27:39 AM »
i believe in climate change, happens four time a year, spring, summer, fall, winter. Climate change is something that is used as poltical propaganda more than anyhting. do you think the earth has always been the same temperature??? hense the ice age, sever droughts etc. the earth goes through cycles get used to it. it happened before there were car humans and all these bad things that we "created".
  just my :twocents:

Offline Skyvalhunter

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2007
  • Posts: 16012
  • Location: Sky valley/Methow
Re: Bark Beetle is not the reason for wildfires
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2013, 05:34:29 AM »
They can't say that a dead dry tree killed by a beetle hit by lightning isn't more likely to start a fire more than one still green or alive. They can twist the data any way they like to pacify their climate change agenda.
The only man who never makes a mistake, is the man who never does anything!!
The further one goes into the wilderness, the greater the attraction of its lonely freedom.

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Scotty High Performance Downriggers by pickardjw
[Yesterday at 11:08:24 PM]


Berry Report? by JDArms1240
[Yesterday at 11:02:22 PM]


I'm in the mood for a new spotting scope. by dreadi
[Yesterday at 10:59:30 PM]


What are your macros for extended hunts by jackelope
[Yesterday at 10:56:54 PM]


Big ol’ sow by Bearhunter308
[Yesterday at 09:38:36 PM]


Pinks! by metlhead
[Yesterday at 08:14:31 PM]


Bear Meat Care after the shot by Kingofthemountain83
[Yesterday at 05:42:46 PM]


More Kings! by Mfowl
[Yesterday at 05:36:41 PM]


501-LINCOLN /ADA by bobcat
[Yesterday at 05:21:59 PM]


2025 NWTF South Sound Strutters Banquet by wadu1
[Yesterday at 04:51:38 PM]


Did you notice the new bear hunting rules? by EnglishSetter
[Yesterday at 12:56:36 PM]


PSA - Dog Immune System Health Disease I'd never heard of by CaNINE
[Yesterday at 11:35:30 AM]


Multi Season leftovers by trophyhunt
[Yesterday at 10:37:24 AM]


1st bear of the season for us. by pashok23
[Yesterday at 10:25:57 AM]


It's Starting by Ridgerunner
[Yesterday at 09:28:42 AM]


High buck hunt by boneaddict
[Yesterday at 08:41:08 AM]


Scope/mount options Ruger Ranch 5.56 by dreadi
[August 08, 2025, 11:06:00 PM]


Grand Ronde Archery by rainsman
[August 08, 2025, 08:07:39 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal