long range muzzleloader legal in idaho

[idaho guy]

Snowpack 45 cal is ok but does have to be 50 cal for elk only

[meatwhack]

You can set up a Williams peep site to be adjustable for long range. I think the limiting factor in idaho is the bullet restrictions. If you could use a jacketed sabot then I think there would definitely be some potential but without that I don't have any suggestions, good luck though.

[Stein]

I don't think the rifle is going to be your problem, it's the bullet that I would be worried about at 400 yards.

Hornady SST ML,  has a bc of 0.265 and lists a muzzle velocity of 2325.  Zeroed at 100, the 400 yard holdover would be a stout 60" or five feet.  It would impact with under 750 ft-lbs of energy.

[TopOfTheFoodChain]

I shoot my White Super 91 .451 comfortably out to 300 yards. It has the factory rear Lyman 57sme. Front is a globe with duplex crosshairs. I'm zeroed at 100. I can quickly adjust to be zeroed at 200 or at 300. Windage is easy also. I am shooting 90 grains 3f T7 with a No Excuses 460 grain. I can bust milk jugs at 300 yards and plenty of energy still...

Haven't tried any further than 300, don't think I have quite enough elevation left in the rear adjustment.

[2MANY]

Restarting an oldie here.
Curious what people have come up with for Idaho since back in 2014??

[teanawayslayer]

If your looking for a long range sight gunwerks has the one your looking for. They are on the pricey side but I think it would be what your looking for.

[2MANY]

Nope my buddy has one of the Gunworks guns with a scope.
Just trying to understand what is legal in Idaho.
Pretty sure I can't make that one legal.

[MtnMuley]

He's referring to a sight Gunwerks builds for long range shooting, not a Gunwerks muzzy. It's legal in Idaho as well. I still can't figure out how they came up with their absurd pricing on it though.

[2MANY]

I understand the Gunwerks gun and sight.
I do not understand how to make it legal in Idaho?
Help?

[Alan K]

It's just a glorified peep sight and can go on any gun.

Might be easier for you to explain why you think it is different than any other peep sight and would not be legal in Idaho?

https://www.gunwerks.com/shop/ay-r-e8500-revic-moa-exo-extreme-o-ring-rear-sight-22122#attr=

[jjhunter]

The rifle won’t be legal in Idaho for a few reasons.  1 is that the breach is not exposed to the elements.  Two is ignition type (needs to be percussion or musket cap) and 3, it uses the powerbelt ER bullet which is  full bore, but not an all lead conical.

Idaho rules keep folks from utilizing modern rifle-like muzzys which I am a huge fan of.   Even my Knight bighorn with loose T7, a full bore hunk of pure lead and a percussion cap with factory open sites is highly effective to 250 yards, which to me, is not a short range weapon.   

[Alan K]

The thing is nobody has suggested the gunwerks muzzleloader... Only suggestions that I see were the sight? 2MANY is the only one who keeps bringing up the muzzleloader itself.

[teanawayslayer]

The rifle won’t be legal in Idaho for a few reasons.  1 is that the breach is not exposed to the elements.  Two is ignition type (needs to be percussion or musket cap) and 3, it uses the powerbelt ER bullet which is  full bore, but not an all lead conical.

Idaho rules keep folks from utilizing modern rifle-like muzzys which I am a huge fan of.   Even my Knight bighorn with loose T7, a full bore hunk of pure lead and a percussion cap with factory open sites is highly effective to 250 yards, which to me, is not a short range weapon.   

did you end up buying the gun werks sight? I know you were talking about it.

[2MANY]

2MANY is just trying to learn and is borderline ignorant on the subject.
At this point it's obvious I cannot borrow by buddies new toy.
I get it now and thank you.

Did you put the sight on your gun JJ?

[jjhunter]

I didn’t for a few reasons.

1)  there was a bunch of r&d that went into the design for the specific platform it is used on and I didn’t feel like doing math.   

2). I was shooting very well to 250 with factory sites and with the bullet I was using, I had concerns with energy out past that distance

3). I am just not a fan of peep sights.   Especially in low light or dark background situations.   Additionally, if I jump a buck at close range, I can quickly point and dump them on the run with standard sights.