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best mud tires
« on: October 06, 2016, 07:16:11 PM »
ok I need tires for 2004 dodge 1500, I have TOYO m/t on it and love the tire but is there a better tire for around the same money that doesnt hum worse and drives smooth?      I dont put more then 4,000-5,000 miles a year on the truck, want something mud terrain that will last a long time.. thanks in advance!

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2016, 07:28:38 PM »
I've always like the copper stt's
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2016, 07:32:39 PM »
I'm running the stt pros, not in love with em, seem to be wearing fairly fast, they are about the same as toyos as far as noise, maybe a tad quieter, but they hook up better off-road, a ton better imho.

With that said my truck weighs right about 8200#, so you might get different results on a 1/2 ton

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2016, 07:44:45 PM »
I am running the Fierce Attitude MT's on my F150, made by good year.  Second set.  Ran a set on my other F150, which I sold.  My favorite tire to fill the category of performance, wear, and cost overall.  They have limited size selections.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2016, 07:48:10 PM »
I went from the TOYO M/T to the R/T . Check them out they are sweet dude. Quiet and last longer, even though the M/T lasts a long time to. I had 3 sets of M/T before my R/Ts.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2016, 07:49:43 PM »
I hear that the copper pros are great. My go to M/T lately are the motto trail grapplers. I have replied sets and they are tough as crap!

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2016, 07:53:10 PM »
By design mud tires aren't gonna last as long because of the softer tread.  I like the Cooper STT. 

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2016, 07:58:07 PM »
Idk Toyo are higher quality than cooper IMO

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2016, 08:16:03 PM »
Toyos are very good tires, my older brother swears by them and the do work well for him.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2016, 08:44:10 PM »
You want the best , here they are Boggers  :chuckle:. Had them on a Chevy yes they are loud , and heavy and I only got like 20000 miles out of them but I never got stuck.


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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2016, 08:48:25 PM »
You want the best , here they are Boggers  :chuckle:. Had them on a Chevy yes they are loud , and heavy and I only got like 20000 miles out of them but I never got stuck.

lol tractor tires for trucks I like it

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2016, 08:51:21 PM »
You want the best , here they are Boggers  :chuckle:. Had them on a Chevy yes they are loud , and heavy and I only got like 20000 miles out of them but I never got stuck.
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2016, 09:00:00 PM »
You want the best , here they are Boggers  :chuckle:. Had them on a Chevy yes they are loud , and heavy and I only got like 20000 miles out of them but I never got stuck.

lol tractor tires for trucks I like it
They are not a tractor tire. They are built by Interco for mud. :tup:
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2016, 09:02:51 PM »
You want the best , here they are Boggers  :chuckle:. Had them on a Chevy yes they are loud , and heavy and I only got like 20000 miles out of them but I never got stuck.

lol tractor tires for trucks I like it
They are not a tractor tire. They are built by Interco for mud. :tup:

I know but similar for a truck haha.  My friends in high school liked them for wheelin and stuff but ya didn't last long on the street

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2016, 09:16:40 PM »
TSLs, Buckshots, or Gumbos if you don't want the Boggers. :twocents:  Hard to find tho. Those are the best true mud tires IMO.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2016, 09:34:13 PM »
Not sure what price range your looking at..I put 35" Nitto mud grapplers on my daughters jeep,she drove it 70 miles 5 days a week to school on them,think she had 50,000+ miles on them before I replaced them with a new set,kept 2 of the 1st set to use as spares,the tread is still decent.Never had a flat or any problem with them.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2016, 09:52:09 PM »
I've been happy with my Nitto Trail Grapplers on my 1500 Silverado. My last set had 50-60k, and the only reason I replaced them was because my wife managed to put a screwdriver thru one of them on the freeway, so I replaced all 4.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2016, 11:06:57 PM »
BFG KM2's  the tread pattern is a bit different than everyone elses which makes them a bit quieter.  I have gotten 70K out of both the KM's and the KM2's

the last time I needed tires for my Super Duty, there where no BFG's available (they where in the middle of the tooling change/ ramp up  from KM to KM2)  I went with Cooper SST's.   I prefer the BFG's.
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2016, 05:29:25 PM »
Sst maxx cooper's

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2016, 06:39:51 PM »
Sst maxx cooper's

Yep I agree. Great combo of quite and off road traction. I have them on my 4runner. Toyo is now copying the st maxx with a tire just like it now. Another good one is the wrangler duratrac. All of these should be available in a 10 ply also.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2016, 08:20:44 PM »
thanks for the responses, I am going with the toyo m/t I dont drive enough to go with a A/T and dont ever want a flat tire. I got 67,000 out of the last set and are still legal but humm alot louder and spin at most sharp turns.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2016, 08:54:37 PM »
thanks for the responses, I am going with the toyo m/t I dont drive enough to go with a A/T and dont ever want a flat tire. I got 67,000 out of the last set and are still legal but humm alot louder and spin at most sharp turns.

Nothing wrong with sticking to what works and what you know. Learned that the hard way with trying mechanicals this year. Do you sipe your tires? I did that with my last set and they chunked out a bit on the gravel/shale. This year when I bought tires they didn't even ask me if I wanted to do it and usually they are pushing it. I wasn't going to if they asked, but I'm wondering if they do it anymore

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2016, 11:41:45 PM »
I have run BF mt and at. Duratrac, Toyo mt at and others.  Running Toyo AT2 now and they are pretty good.  Better in snow than MT and really are about as good in the mud as the MT unless its thick or gumbo mud.  Duratrac is my favorite, great snow good in sloppy mud and on the street/rain.  Toyo MT suck, period. sorry toyo guys but I'm not impressed at all with em.  BF spank them every way possible.
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2016, 11:59:40 PM »
I have run BF mt and at. Duratrac, Toyo mt at and others.  Running Toyo AT2 now and they are pretty good.  Better in snow than MT and really are about as good in the mud as the MT unless its thick or gumbo mud.  Duratrac is my favorite, great snow good in sloppy mud and on the street/rain.  Toyo MT suck, period. sorry toyo guys but I'm not impressed at all with em.  BF spank them every way possible.

HA. Sometimes people buy to wide of tires for mud. Lots of things to consider. A narrow tire will perform much better in mud then a wide tire. Wide tires look better so people go with them, and they perform better in icy snow/deep snow. Nothing's perfect for everything

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2016, 08:05:36 AM »
I have run BF mt and at. Duratrac, Toyo mt at and others.  Running Toyo AT2 now and they are pretty good.  Better in snow than MT and really are about as good in the mud as the MT unless its thick or gumbo mud.  Duratrac is my favorite, great snow good in sloppy mud and on the street/rain.  Toyo MT suck, period. sorry toyo guys but I'm not impressed at all with em.  BF spank them every way possible.

HA. Sometimes people buy to wide of tires for mud. Lots of things to consider. A narrow tire will perform much better in mud then a wide tire. Wide tires look better so people go with them, and they perform better in icy snow/deep snow. Nothing's perfect for everything

This could be the most comical post I've ever read on huntwa. Narrow in the mud and wide in the snow and ice, huh? Wow

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2016, 08:27:07 AM »
I have run BF mt and at. Duratrac, Toyo mt at and others.  Running Toyo AT2 now and they are pretty good.  Better in snow than MT and really are about as good in the mud as the MT unless its thick or gumbo mud.  Duratrac is my favorite, great snow good in sloppy mud and on the street/rain.  Toyo MT suck, period. sorry toyo guys but I'm not impressed at all with em.  BF spank them every way possible.

HA. Sometimes people buy to wide of tires for mud. Lots of things to consider. A narrow tire will perform much better in mud then a wide tire. Wide tires look better so people go with them, and they perform better in icy snow/deep snow. Nothing's perfect for everything

This could be the most comical post I've ever read on huntwa. Narrow in the mud and wide in the snow and ice, huh? Wow

On a muddy old road yes a skinny tire will cut through better and bite where a wide tire is going to slide all over. But I'm trying to explain logical reasoning to someone who suggested TSLs and boggers to a guy who's trying to get mileage out of his tires. Not go out with hill billys on the weekends to a mud pit with super swampers and trailer their old broken jeeps

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2016, 08:32:48 AM »
Get a lil set of these if just using for mud hunting.  I Get ten years outa these.  2500 miles a year. Heh.  On third set - grooving greatly improves snow and ice traction.  Run at 5 psi.



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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2016, 08:37:30 AM »
He puts 4 to 5K miles per year on these tires. Logically speaking, I mentioned some of the best mud tires ever built. All mentioned will last several years in those conditions. Am I wrong?

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2016, 10:14:29 AM »
Narrow tire does perform better most cases.  Wide pushes more mud and snow instead of cutting to the ground for traction.  Jeeps ran pizza cutters for a reason.  It depends on weight of vehichle of course.  If its real deep than speed power and flotation of wide tire helps.  Can a jeep 4cyl turn 15" wide 37" tires at 40mph through the mud?  Nope.  Stuck.  Skinny will work best.  Diesels are heavy and can use wider tires better than others.  Anyone who has wheeled understands why a 38" skinny bogger does better than a 15" wide bogger.
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« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2016, 10:19:56 AM »
Narrow tire does perform better most cases.  Wide pushes more mud and snow instead of cutting to the ground for traction.  Jeeps ran pizza cutters for a reason.  It depends on weight of vehichle of course.  If its real deep than speed power and flotation of wide tire helps.  Can a jeep 4cyl turn 15" wide 37" tires at 40mph through the mud?  Nope.  Stuck.  Skinny will work best.  Diesels are heavy and can use wider tires better than others.  Anyone who has wheeled understands why a 38" skinny bogger does better than a 15" wide bogger.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2016, 01:13:37 PM »
I'm just waiting for your logic behind wide tires for ice.:dunno:

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2016, 03:04:57 PM »
I'm just waiting for your logic behind wide tires for ice.:dunno:

More surface area touching road. Look at the Arctic vehicles they use and tell me what kind of tires they have.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2016, 03:38:19 PM »
They need flotation.  PSI footprint to maintain elevation in deep snow.  6ft of snow would require what, 144" tire?  Ever watch the swamp buggies?  Skinny 6ft agg tires not wide paddles like sand.
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2016, 03:49:21 PM »
I didn't know the guy that started this thread was going  to be up in the Arctic, competing in the mud bogs, or airing down to float in 6 feet on snow.  I just assumed he'd use the tires like 99% of us other hunters do.

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« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2016, 04:08:36 PM »
 :chuckle: this reminds me of the time I was cruising over Snoqualmie in my work truck with 265r17's in 4high. Zipping along at 50mph in 6-8" of new snow when I came up on a lifted Chevy 2500 with 35's on, he was struggling bad at 10mph fish tailing his way up the lane. I slowed down and moved over to remind him 4WD would solve his problems. He rolled down his window and shouted back "it's 2 wheel drive!"  :chuckle:
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2016, 06:38:44 PM »
Duratrac if snow is primary, or BF MT or AT.  AT2's for street and some off road.  Its amazing that the old BF AT is still hard to beat after so many years.  TSL IROC if serious mud and wheeling or go balls deep with the BOGGER!!
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2016, 09:03:18 AM »
Just put a new set of Duratracs on my new cummins yesterday - I've always been a BFG guy, but the guys at Discount Tire talked me into them and even matched the price of the BFG for me trying them.
They should be a good test as I'm leaving Thursday morning for 13 days hunting

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2016, 09:15:24 AM »
Just put a new set of Duratracs on my new cummins yesterday - I've always been a BFG guy, but the guys at Discount Tire talked me into them and even matched the price of the BFG for me trying them.
They should be a good test as I'm leaving Thursday morning for 13 days hunting
They are a little weird the first few hundred miles until broke in.  Dunno why.  You will like em.  Snow they are really good.  Good in everything except the thick mud.  Can ball up but if its sloppy wet mud, rocks, grass, etc they are good.  Wear was decent for me as well.  Wet roads they were good too.  Report back and let us know what you think!
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2016, 09:19:40 AM »
somehow the thread got over taken by the HATFIELDS and MCCOYS FUED, i thankyou for your opinions and wish everyone a great season! Brian

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2016, 11:30:58 PM »
I've had cooper sst, Goodyear Mt, Toyo, and now two sets of km2's.

My rating, bfg, cooper, Toyo, Goodyear. Bfgs are cheapest and have lasted longer on my f 350 than any others and have far superior traction and low noise.
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2016, 01:25:14 AM »
I've always ran the bfg mt's or at's but this year (feb) I went with the mtx from mastercraft. They are a bit quieter and sofar wearing very well driving 60-80 miles a day 5-6 days a week. I did have them siped and I'm very happy with them sofar.
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2016, 12:10:27 PM »
I ran 235's on my f 150 and run 255's on my f 350. I've had 285's on both before and they were terrible in comparison in almost every condition I encounter in the local hills and snowy passes.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2016, 03:51:09 PM »
I am running the Fierce Attitude MT's on my F150, made by good year.  Second set.  Ran a set on my other F150, which I sold.  My favorite tire to fill the category of performance, wear, and cost overall.  They have limited size selections.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2016, 09:06:59 AM »
 
I'm just waiting for your logic behind wide tires for ice.:dunno:

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2016, 09:12:19 AM »
I ran 235's on my f 150 and run 255's on my f 350. I've had 285's on both before and they were terrible in comparison in almost every condition I encounter in the local hills and snowy passes.

Tall and narrow.
I personally feel that the 255s are the best choice for a 10 ply 33in Tire. Unfortunately they aren't that common so make sure you have a spare and keep all your old ones for spares as well.
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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2016, 10:36:34 AM »
I ran 235's on my f 150 and run 255's on my f 350. I've had 285's on both before and they were terrible in comparison in almost every condition I encounter in the local hills and snowy passes.

Tall and narrow.
I personally feel that the 255s are the best choice for a 10 ply 33in Tire. Unfortunately they aren't that common so make sure you have a spare and keep all your old ones for spares as well.

I had these KM2's in 255/80-17 on my Rubicon when we still had it and they worked great in the mud and muck.  In most conditions I'll take tall and skinny every time.

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Re: best mud tires
« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2016, 10:36:58 AM »
If you don't care about noise, you can't go wrong with a bias ply TSL swamper. If you want a true mud tire, those tires dig like hell and will never let you down in any hunting condition you will encounter. 

 


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