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I also have a question about this subject. How is it that the Average salmon caught in Alaska is much bigger than in Washington state if all of the salmon we get back are coming from all the way up there? I'm speaking from experience btw. I lived in Alaska for a short time and fished there as much as I could. The average Coho up there is 10+ lbs and the average king is 20+ lbs.. here in Washington that's a much smaller number. Another thing I have to ask about is that Pink salmon run every year in Alaska whereas here in Washington we get a run every other year. how does that make sense? I get that some of our fish go that far north but I feel like most of our salmon go mainly up into Canadian waters or just further out into the ocean. I could be completely wrong... but then again in all the years I have fished Washington state I have only pulled up a hand full of kings that were 20 lbs or more and silvers are 6-8 lbs if you are lucky. The pinks we caught up there were also bigger. 8-10 lbs average! The pinks we get down here are like 3-5 lbs. Just my but feel free to fill me in if you have any info. I love salmon fishing and will continue to do so in the future.. just not in Washington state, unless its the hump or if I go with a charter on the Columbia lol. Btw, I'm talking sport fishing more than netting and yes I know there is a big difference in catch. My biggest king is a hair under 40 lbs and that was in Canada up on Queen Charlotte island and my biggest silver was while I was living in Ketchikan, Alaska and it was 16 lbs. I WANT TO GO BACK!
Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on December 17, 2017, 05:29:12 PMI also have a question about this subject. How is it that the Average salmon caught in Alaska is much bigger than in Washington state if all of the salmon we get back are coming from all the way up there? I'm speaking from experience btw. I lived in Alaska for a short time and fished there as much as I could. The average Coho up there is 10+ lbs and the average king is 20+ lbs.. here in Washington that's a much smaller number. Another thing I have to ask about is that Pink salmon run every year in Alaska whereas here in Washington we get a run every other year. how does that make sense? I get that some of our fish go that far north but I feel like most of our salmon go mainly up into Canadian waters or just further out into the ocean. I could be completely wrong... but then again in all the years I have fished Washington state I have only pulled up a hand full of kings that were 20 lbs or more and silvers are 6-8 lbs if you are lucky. The pinks we caught up there were also bigger. 8-10 lbs average! The pinks we get down here are like 3-5 lbs. Just my but feel free to fill me in if you have any info. I love salmon fishing and will continue to do so in the future.. just not in Washington state, unless its the hump or if I go with a charter on the Columbia lol. Btw, I'm talking sport fishing more than netting and yes I know there is a big difference in catch. My biggest king is a hair under 40 lbs and that was in Canada up on Queen Charlotte island and my biggest silver was while I was living in Ketchikan, Alaska and it was 16 lbs. I WANT TO GO BACK! 10+ pound average is far fetched. I worked on a salmon tender throughout the whole troll season in SE Alaska and saw 10s of thousands of coho I think the average was 5-7 pounds as the season got later. @skillet
Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on December 17, 2017, 05:29:12 PMI also have a question about this subject. How is it that the Average salmon caught in Alaska is much bigger than in Washington state if all of the salmon we get back are coming from all the way up there? I'm speaking from experience btw. I lived in Alaska for a short time and fished there as much as I could. The average Coho up there is 10+ lbs and the average king is 20+ lbs.. here in Washington that's a much smaller number. Another thing I have to ask about is that Pink salmon run every year in Alaska whereas here in Washington we get a run every other year. how does that make sense? I get that some of our fish go that far north but I feel like most of our salmon go mainly up into Canadian waters or just further out into the ocean. I could be completely wrong... but then again in all the years I have fished Washington state I have only pulled up a hand full of kings that were 20 lbs or more and silvers are 6-8 lbs if you are lucky. The pinks we caught up there were also bigger. 8-10 lbs average! The pinks we get down here are like 3-5 lbs. Just my but feel free to fill me in if you have any info. I love salmon fishing and will continue to do so in the future.. just not in Washington state, unless its the hump or if I go with a charter on the Columbia lol. Btw, I'm talking sport fishing more than netting and yes I know there is a big difference in catch. My biggest king is a hair under 40 lbs and that was in Canada up on Queen Charlotte island and my biggest silver was while I was living in Ketchikan, Alaska and it was 16 lbs. I WANT TO GO BACK! Genetics. Just because two people eat the same food at the same table, does not necessarily mean they are going to grow to be the same size. Fish may travel to the same feeding grounds, doesn't mean those two fish don't come from different parts of the world or different parents.
Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on December 17, 2017, 05:29:12 PMI also have a question about this subject. How is it that the Average salmon caught in Alaska is much bigger than in Washington state if all of the salmon we get back are coming from all the way up there? I'm speaking from experience btw. I lived in Alaska for a short time and fished there as much as I could. The average Coho up there is 10+ lbs and the average king is 20+ lbs.. here in Washington that's a much smaller number. Another thing I have to ask about is that Pink salmon run every year in Alaska whereas here in Washington we get a run every other year. how does that make sense? I get that some of our fish go that far north but I feel like most of our salmon go mainly up into Canadian waters or just further out into the ocean. I could be completely wrong... but then again in all the years I have fished Washington state I have only pulled up a hand full of kings that were 20 lbs or more and silvers are 6-8 lbs if you are lucky. The pinks we caught up there were also bigger. 8-10 lbs average! The pinks we get down here are like 3-5 lbs. Just my but feel free to fill me in if you have any info. I love salmon fishing and will continue to do so in the future.. just not in Washington state, unless its the hump or if I go with a charter on the Columbia lol. Btw, I'm talking sport fishing more than netting and yes I know there is a big difference in catch. My biggest king is a hair under 40 lbs and that was in Canada up on Queen Charlotte island and my biggest silver was while I was living in Ketchikan, Alaska and it was 16 lbs. I WANT TO GO BACK! I'm gonna guess your coho experience in WA is mostly hatchery fish?
Skillet - if you look at the numbers, the SE AK troll harvests heavily on a lot of southern stocks. I’d bet you’ve caught fish from a lot of interesting places.I fished the north tip of queen Charlotte island this summer. Like se ak, I’m sure the kings were a big mix of south bound fish. It was interesting to look at the kings and how different they look from stock to stock. I’ve seen it here in Washington obviously but it was interesting to look at dozens of kings over 4 days. We caught one that I’d bet money was hatchery tule, some that looked like urbs and some a variety of other stocks.
Jh - the numbers don’t lie. And by harvesting juveniles, I mean that all those smaller kings caught over the 3 years they are feeding up north aren’t nature yet. They’d be a lot bigger if we let them grow another 2 or 4 years.
I think most of the AK fish stay near AK, some head over toward Russia and northern Japan. The maps I remember seeing had the WA fish that were closest to the coast going to the Western Gulf of Alaska. The Puget Sound fish going more toward the central part. Lower Columbia river fish going more to the SE Gulf and around Northern British Columbia. The fish that would hang around off the WA and OR coasts had a lot from Idaho and way up the Columbia, and lots from California/S Oregon.
Quote from: Duckslayer89 on December 17, 2017, 08:08:50 PMQuote from: W_Ellison2011 on December 17, 2017, 05:29:12 PMI also have a question about this subject. How is it that the Average salmon caught in Alaska is much bigger than in Washington state if all of the salmon we get back are coming from all the way up there? I'm speaking from experience btw. I lived in Alaska for a short time and fished there as much as I could. The average Coho up there is 10+ lbs and the average king is 20+ lbs.. here in Washington that's a much smaller number. Another thing I have to ask about is that Pink salmon run every year in Alaska whereas here in Washington we get a run every other year. how does that make sense? I get that some of our fish go that far north but I feel like most of our salmon go mainly up into Canadian waters or just further out into the ocean. I could be completely wrong... but then again in all the years I have fished Washington state I have only pulled up a hand full of kings that were 20 lbs or more and silvers are 6-8 lbs if you are lucky. The pinks we caught up there were also bigger. 8-10 lbs average! The pinks we get down here are like 3-5 lbs. Just my but feel free to fill me in if you have any info. I love salmon fishing and will continue to do so in the future.. just not in Washington state, unless its the hump or if I go with a charter on the Columbia lol. Btw, I'm talking sport fishing more than netting and yes I know there is a big difference in catch. My biggest king is a hair under 40 lbs and that was in Canada up on Queen Charlotte island and my biggest silver was while I was living in Ketchikan, Alaska and it was 16 lbs. I WANT TO GO BACK! 10+ pound average is far fetched. I worked on a salmon tender throughout the whole troll season in SE Alaska and saw 10s of thousands of coho I think the average was 5-7 pounds as the season got later. @skillet%We had 4 people in the boat and were allowed 6 silvers per person per day. Smallest Coho we caught was 8 lbs. We weren't netting though. We were out sport fishing. We had limits of pinks, silvers, and a couple kings in the boat within 2 hrs and headed to the halibut and rockfish holes. This past summer we missed the schools, but still ended up with some nice silvers in the 9-14 lbs range and some pinks around 6-7 lbs.
Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on December 17, 2017, 05:29:12 PMI also have a question about this subject. How is it that the Average salmon caught in Alaska is much bigger than in Washington state if all of the salmon we get back are coming from all the way up there? I'm speaking from experience btw. I lived in Alaska for a short time and fished there as much as I could. The average Coho up there is 10+ lbs and the average king is 20+ lbs.. here in Washington that's a much smaller number. Another thing I have to ask about is that Pink salmon run every year in Alaska whereas here in Washington we get a run every other year. how does that make sense? I get that some of our fish go that far north but I feel like most of our salmon go mainly up into Canadian waters or just further out into the ocean. I could be completely wrong... but then again in all the years I have fished Washington state I have only pulled up a hand full of kings that were 20 lbs or more and silvers are 6-8 lbs if you are lucky. The pinks we caught up there were also bigger. 8-10 lbs average! The pinks we get down here are like 3-5 lbs. Just my but feel free to fill me in if you have any info. I love salmon fishing and will continue to do so in the future.. just not in Washington state, unless its the hump or if I go with a charter on the Columbia lol. Btw, I'm talking sport fishing more than netting and yes I know there is a big difference in catch. My biggest king is a hair under 40 lbs and that was in Canada up on Queen Charlotte island and my biggest silver was while I was living in Ketchikan, Alaska and it was 16 lbs. I WANT TO GO BACK! 10+ pound average is far fetched. I worked on a salmon tender throughout the whole troll season in SE Alaska and saw 10s of thousands of coho I think the average was 5-7 pounds as the season got later. @skillet%