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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2019, 11:50:12 AM »
So if a bear eats one of these elk and you kill the bear and eat the bear.? What happens?

According to the FDA paper above, it could be harmful.
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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2019, 11:51:38 AM »
So if a bear eats one of these elk and you kill the bear and eat the bear.? What happens?

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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2019, 12:13:28 PM »
You become an opiate addicted crackhead.......and come down with an urge to move to Yakima

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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2019, 12:56:03 PM »
It’s hard to believe they would use a drug that isn’t 99.999999% excreted or metabolized within a reasonable amount of time.


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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2019, 03:42:57 PM »
I would ask for a refund of your tag,permits points ,anything that's BS.How do the tribes get away with this crap.Did they go to Mexico and buy some expired drugs from a van parked behind the pharmacy.WDFW can't tell the tribes that it's a health risk now,and could be liability responsible when someone eats some .

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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2019, 07:34:38 PM »
I'm married to a vet and I hunt with a couple vets.  I'll check with them on 'would you eat it?' and 'would you be okay if we fed this meat to your kids?'

I'll let you know what they say.

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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2019, 09:36:46 PM »
Please do that 444Marlin. I actually know a USDA disease vet also. I will send him a text and see what his opinion is. Unfortunately I would probably do what Pegasus suggested in this situation. It's a hard one.

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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2019, 10:26:29 PM »
It’s hard to believe they would use a drug that isn’t 99.999999% excreted or metabolized within a reasonable amount of time.


I don't know if this will help.   
https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1045&context=icwdmccwhcnews

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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2020, 06:15:15 AM »
I am simply trying to spread the word of this. If they are tranquilizing these animals with drugs that affect them and make them inedible for their lifetime who is to say that these animals aren't passing the stuff in their system to their offspring or to animals that eat it when they die. People put in a lot of time and effort for these elk and to tag one and have it be inedible in my opinion is bs. Even if they give you a new tag.

x2   It's odd that they use drugs that stay in the system.

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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2020, 08:34:17 AM »
I am simply trying to spread the word of this. If they are tranquilizing these animals with drugs that affect them and make them inedible for their lifetime who is to say that these animals aren't passing the stuff in their system to their offspring or to animals that eat it when they die. People put in a lot of time and effort for these elk and to tag one and have it be inedible in my opinion is bs. Even if they give you a new tag.

x2   It's odd that they use drugs that stay in the system.

I'm not so sure that is correct

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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2020, 12:53:01 PM »
being "FDA approved" and being "safe" isn't always mutually exclusive  :twocents:

If it isn't "FDA approved" their answer is always "DO NOT CONSUME"


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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2020, 02:35:00 PM »
I'd eat it.  :chuckle:

I doubt that carfentanil and fentanyl are present in muscle that long after the introduction.

I sure wouldn't eat the liver, a quick google search says that both are metabolized in the liver and I dont eat liver anyway.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2020, 02:36:18 PM »
And yea there are plenty of "non FDA approved" things that are safe, it just means they wont test it.

Like the FDA no longer inspects beef brain so it's "non FDA Approved"  but nothing about the beef brain changed.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2020, 02:55:56 PM »
have your elk steak with a side of narcan  :chuckle:

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Re: MUST READ
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2020, 02:58:50 PM »
 :chuckle:
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

 


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