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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2019, 09:31:09 PM »
From the article... "They will usually avoid humans and leave the area when they see, hear, or smell people close by...."

Why?  They have not been taught that people are not good to be around. To them, we are just prey or another predator to compete with by removing us from their territory.

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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2019, 10:09:32 PM »
I haven't heard of this before?  Didn't a camper in BC just get attacked in his campsite by a wolf this past year?

I saw one in NE Oregon last year, and he/she had absolutely no fear of me.  Which is unlike many of the black bear encounters I have had where they are typically running the other direction.

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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2019, 04:53:36 AM »
From the article... "They will usually avoid humans and leave the area when they see, hear, or smell people close by...."

Why?  They have not been taught that people are not good to be around. To them, we are just prey or another predator to compete with by removing us from their territory.

Exactly! All of the wolves I saw in MT before they authorized a hunt had little to no concern I was there. After management began it was a totally different story. Our wildlife agencies shouldn't be telling people lies when we haven't had much experience with these wolves on our landscape.

At what point would you feel threatened, or at what point does someone else feel threatend? Do they have a minimum distance a wolf bear or cougar can be justifiably shot in self defense?

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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2019, 06:23:40 AM »
IT happens more than is reported for obvious reasons.   He is lucky he was observant and armed.  As their food sources dwindle.....

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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2019, 07:01:36 AM »
"You can fire a warning shot into the ground", lol ammo is expensive, if I fire a shot with a wolf nearby you can bet it's not going into the ground.

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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2019, 08:13:55 AM »
From the article... "They will usually avoid humans and leave the area when they see, hear, or smell people close by...."

Why?  They have not been taught that people are not good to be around. To them, we are just prey or another predator to compete with by removing us from their territory.
I think the bold is the key part.  Any predator, hunted or not, is very capable of killing a human and every so often they will.  The more common behavior is to avoid humans, which is what the quote says...if that were not true there would be many people killed per day by predators roaming the woods and rural areas.
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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2019, 08:51:18 AM »
Would like to know how long the conversation was between the guy who shot it and his buddies about reporting it or not. It is the right thing to report it but geez you are taking a chance on getting some wolf hugger making the decision to charge you or not.

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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2019, 09:13:50 AM »
What it will take is some kid to be attacked and killed. Even then they will say the animal was malnutritioned or had a disease. Why wait until it charges.
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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2019, 09:16:32 AM »
What it will take is some kid to be attacked and killed. Even then they will say the animal was malnutritioned or had a disease. Why wait until it charges.
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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2019, 11:07:16 AM »
Best to be prepared for confrontation at all times....if an aggressive predator advances within hand gun range, its time to shoot.

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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2019, 12:10:35 PM »
From the article... "They will usually avoid humans and leave the area when they see, hear, or smell people close by...."

Why?  They have not been taught that people are not good to be around. To them, we are just prey or another predator to compete with by removing us from their territory.
I think the bold is the key part.  Any predator, hunted or not, is very capable of killing a human and every so often they will.  The more common behavior is to avoid humans, which is what the quote says...if that were not true there would be many people killed per day by predators roaming the woods and rural areas.

Actually most predators will retreat and then circle back from a better vantage point to survey or decide if it's worth chasing the subject to get a meal. Humans walk upright so it makes us appear much more formidable than we might actually be.

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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2019, 03:08:13 PM »
If a wolf, cougar; or any other large pedetor comes with in handgun distance I would think it would be time to take some serious actions. As far as reporting it to a one sided game department that would take some time to think about. Maybe long enough to let maggots and other wildlife have at it for awhile. What would the hurry be, things aren't going anywhere on their own so report time wouldn't really matter.
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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2019, 09:11:35 PM »
From the article... "They will usually avoid humans and leave the area when they see, hear, or smell people close by...."

Why?  They have not been taught that people are not good to be around. To them, we are just prey or another predator to compete with by removing us from their territory.

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Re: Hunter surrounded by wolves, acts in self-defense when one charges
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2019, 09:30:23 PM »
From the article... "They will usually avoid humans and leave the area when they see, hear, or smell people close by...."

Why?  They have not been taught that people are not good to be around. To them, we are just prey or another predator to compete with by removing us from their territory.

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That thing is in someones backyard almost! That is amazing. Looks like a self defense distance to me.

 


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