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Offline LDennis24

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2023, 07:25:20 PM »
Calling it ancestral is where the line should be drawn. While ancestral just means passed on from someone above you in your family tree, it's misleading in this sense. Just call it a whoopty boony basher hunt...

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2023, 07:28:22 PM »
Calling it ancestral is where the line should be drawn. While ancestral just means passed on from someone above you in your family tree, it's misleading in this sense. Just call it a whoopty boony basher hunt...

you lost me at "hunt"


It's a treaty rights special harvest

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2023, 07:28:32 PM »
Hopefully the rights held by tribes influence a truly disruptive and extremely biased policy body at the wdfw to perpetuate the consumptive use of natural resources to benefit all.

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2023, 07:29:11 PM »
Do you think they chased elk in that area 80 yrs ago with four wheel drive vehicles on their hunt? I don't think so. So it's not ancestral. I do not know if they were chasing elk or not that is just what I was told was witnessed.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2023, 07:30:28 PM »
Hopefully the rights held by tribes influence a truly disruptive and extremely biased policy body at the wdfw to perpetuate the consumptive use of natural resources to benefit all.

wouldn't that be nice, but I lost my optimism many moons ago when it comes to WDFW. 

If we get another dem (Ferguson) governor that'll be the finale nail in the already nailed and glued coffin


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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2023, 07:30:55 PM »
Ahhh, just like traditional ways…. 
:yeah:  I am trying to refrain from posting on this matter
Where does it say tribes are bound by methods previously used? I always find this claim amongst the more odd. I believe much of the discussion during the negotiations were quite the contrary.  Including being able to travel to hunt.

Ethics say so....Are you calling it native pride?
Ethics say what? And others can use technological advances?

I need to stop posting on this while you think you are ahead....carry on
Ahead?  :dunno: Are you going to educate on treaties? Please do.
The treaty of 1885 is broken and has been for a long time. If I remember correctly there’s a section that states that 3 or more male were off the reservation it could be classified as a war party.


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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2023, 07:41:13 PM »
Ahhh, just like traditional ways…. 
:yeah:  I am trying to refrain from posting on this matter
Where does it say tribes are bound by methods previously used? I always find this claim amongst the more odd. I believe much of the discussion during the negotiations were quite the contrary.  Including being able to travel to hunt.

Ethics say so....Are you calling it native pride?
Ethics say what? And others can use technological advances?

I need to stop posting on this while you think you are ahead....carry on
Ahead?  :dunno: Are you going to educate on treaties? Please do.
The treaty of 1885 is broken and has been for a long time. If I remember correctly there’s a section that states that 3 or more male were off the reservation it could be classified as a war party.


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There are key points that have been affirmed.  Those are the ones I'm pretty well versed on.  There's several times where the laws have morphed the treaty into what it is recognized as today.

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2023, 07:45:08 PM »
Ahhh, just like traditional ways….  🤮
:yeah:  I am trying to refrain from posting on this matter
Where does it say tribes are bound by methods previously used? I always find this claim amongst the more odd. I believe much of the discussion during the negotiations were quite the contrary.  Including being able to travel to hunt.

Ethics say so....Are you calling it native pride?
Ethics say what? And others can use technological advances?

I need to stop posting on this while you think you are ahead....carry on
Ahead?  :dunno:

Vastly different views
I will politely state that my views are fouded in law not opinion.

Yes, and when the laws are wrong you fight to get them changed.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2023, 07:50:01 PM »
Ahhh, just like traditional ways….  🤮
:yeah:  I am trying to refrain from posting on this matter
Where does it say tribes are bound by methods previously used? I always find this claim amongst the more odd. I believe much of the discussion during the negotiations were quite the contrary.  Including being able to travel to hunt.

Ethics say so....Are you calling it native pride?
Ethics say what? And others can use technological advances?

I need to stop posting on this while you think you are ahead....carry on
Ahead?  :dunno:

Vastly different views
I will politely state that my views are fouded in law not opinion.

Yes, and when the laws are wrong you fight to get them changed.
:yeah:
I do my best! We finally agree on something jd!

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2023, 08:07:53 PM »
Hopefully the rights held by tribes influence a truly disruptive and extremely biased policy body at the wdfw to perpetuate the consumptive use of natural resources to benefit all.
:yeah:

Let's build bridges, not burn them...especially given the level of misunderstanding displayed by non tribal hunters when it comes to treaty rights.




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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2023, 08:11:44 PM »
Ahhh, just like traditional ways….  🤮
:yeah:  I am trying to refrain from posting on this matter
Where does it say tribes are bound by methods previously used? I always find this claim amongst the more odd. I believe much of the discussion during the negotiations were quite the contrary.  Including being able to travel to hunt.

Ethics say so....Are you calling it native pride?
Ethics say what? And others can use technological advances?

I need to stop posting on this while you think you are ahead....carry on
Ahead?  :dunno:

Vastly different views
I will politely state that my views are fouded in law not opinion.

Yes, and when the laws are wrong you fight to get them changed.
:yeah:
I do my best! We finally agree on something jd!
You do your best to keep us on opposite sides, I thought democrats were about equity, lol.  Natives (wrongs) are the center piece of racism.  Give me a better example of racism?
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2023, 08:42:03 PM »
Why does a dog lick its balls?  Because he can. Best way to explain all of this. Go ahead, crucify me! ;)  this fits the definition of racism. Anytime someone gets special/preferred treatment due to its ethnicity, color of skin, or bloodline is the true definition of racism.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2023, 09:12:01 PM by dvolmer »
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2023, 09:10:47 PM »
Maybe it's time to eliminate the treaties they are racist :yike:

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2023, 09:19:02 PM »
Why does a dog lick its balls?  Because he can. Best way to explain all of this. Go ahead, crucify me! ;)  this fits the definition of racism. Anytime someone gets special/preferred treatment due to its ethnicity, color of skin, or bloodline is the true definition of racism.
It's not special treatment for people with a certain skin color.  It's the exercise of a treaty right negotiated and ratified with the United States.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2023, 09:31:48 PM »
Why does a dog lick its balls?  Because he can. Best way to explain all of this. Go ahead, crucify me! ;)  this fits the definition of racism. Anytime someone gets special/preferred treatment due to its ethnicity, color of skin, or bloodline is the true definition of racism.
It's not special treatment for people with a certain skin color.  It's the exercise of a treaty right negotiated and ratified with the United States.
It’s not skin color, they use blood testing to determine who gets the special rights.  Similar to “blue bloods”.
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