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Quote from: CAMPMEAT on October 23, 2011, 07:47:29 AMATVs have nothing to do with this story. It's the guys who stole the deer and that's it. Sure it does, and the reason I asked if they were legal to be in there with ATV's, is that I don't see how he could turn those guys into law enforcement for "stealing" his deer. Where's the proof? It's his word against theirs. I don't think a game warden would be able to do anything, even if he had got license plate numbers and called it in. However, he could have turned them in for being behind a locked gate on ATV's. Very few areas here on the westside is it legal to go around gates on ATV's.
ATVs have nothing to do with this story. It's the guys who stole the deer and that's it.
Quote from: bobcat on October 23, 2011, 02:06:43 PMQuote from: CAMPMEAT on October 23, 2011, 07:47:29 AMATVs have nothing to do with this story. It's the guys who stole the deer and that's it. Sure it does, and the reason I asked if they were legal to be in there with ATV's, is that I don't see how he could turn those guys into law enforcement for "stealing" his deer. Where's the proof? It's his word against theirs. I don't think a game warden would be able to do anything, even if he had got license plate numbers and called it in. However, he could have turned them in for being behind a locked gate on ATV's. Very few areas here on the westside is it legal to go around gates on ATV's.Same ol' story again..................blah, blah, blah ! It's not the game wardens problem for the ATVers being behind locked gates. It's the landowners problem, it's called, TRESPASSING.
Quote from: CAMPMEAT on October 23, 2011, 02:11:30 PMQuote from: bobcat on October 23, 2011, 02:06:43 PMQuote from: CAMPMEAT on October 23, 2011, 07:47:29 AMATVs have nothing to do with this story. It's the guys who stole the deer and that's it. Sure it does, and the reason I asked if they were legal to be in there with ATV's, is that I don't see how he could turn those guys into law enforcement for "stealing" his deer. Where's the proof? It's his word against theirs. I don't think a game warden would be able to do anything, even if he had got license plate numbers and called it in. However, he could have turned them in for being behind a locked gate on ATV's. Very few areas here on the westside is it legal to go around gates on ATV's.Same ol' story again..................blah, blah, blah ! It's not the game wardens problem for the ATVers being behind locked gates. It's the landowners problem, it's called, TRESPASSING. Well then, if WDFW enforcement doesn't want to do anything about it, call the sheriff. Or, call the landowner. If it was on state land, call DNR enforcement. I don't care what the violation is called. It's illegal and I would have done my best to get them busted for it. You're telling me that if someone stole a deer from you, you wouldn't turn them in for being in a no-motorized area with their ATV's?
You shot and they shot, maybe they are somewhere talking about a guy who tried to steal thier deer? Could it have been an honnest mistake? Sounds like they were jerks for hunting right by you tho. I think you did right, I would never die or kill over a deer. As for vandalizing the cars, you would be letting the creeps turn you into a creep. I would not do that either.Carl
Where does it say that they rode there quad's behind the gate? All he said was they pulled in behind him and then followed him for the 3 mile hike. He didn't even know that they were on the hill behind him. If they were on there quads wouldn't he have heard where they were at?
Quote from: CAMPMEAT on October 23, 2011, 02:11:30 PMQuote from: bobcat on October 23, 2011, 02:06:43 PMQuote from: CAMPMEAT on October 23, 2011, 07:47:29 AMATVs have nothing to do with this story. It's the guys who stole the deer and that's it. Sure it does, and the reason I asked if they were legal to be in there with ATV's, is that I don't see how he could turn those guys into law enforcement for "stealing" his deer. Where's the proof? It's his word against theirs. I don't think a game warden would be able to do anything, even if he had got license plate numbers and called it in. However, he could have turned them in for being behind a locked gate on ATV's. Very few areas here on the westside is it legal to go around gates on ATV's.Same ol' story again..................blah, blah, blah ! It's not the game wardens problem for the ATVers being behind locked gates. It's the landowners problem, it's called, TRESPASSING. Well then, if WDFW enforcement doesn't want to do anything about it, call the sheriff. Or, call the landowner. If it was on state land, call DNR enforcement. I don't care what the violation is called. It's illegal and I would have done my best to get them busted for it. You're telling me that if someone stole a deer from you, you wouldn't turn them in for being in a no-motorized area with their ATV's?Actually, no. I think it's pretty chicken sh!t myself. That was not the problem. It was the stealing of this guys deer, period. I would think more like a guy, than a whiner about ATVs. Like, if I see this guy alone, I'd beat the crap out of him. I think more old school than most guys because that's how I was raised. I'm not for turning people in for something as assnine as riding an ATV behind a closed gate. So what. It happens everday and nothing is ever done about it. It's a waste of OUR taxpayers money to tie up a cops time with something so minor. The cops have better things to do, like maybe, catch a murderer camping out at your campground or a truck prowler at trailheads. Little pukes tearing down forest service signs, pulling out cattle guards in the middle of the forest, grow operations, meth labs, wood poachers. Besides, the people that bitch about the ATVers most likely weren't even there. If you were there, then do what ya gotta do. We have too many goodie two shoes in this world that butt into other peoples business. Give it a rest for once. I'm sure all of you guys a really good people, but geeze, enough on the ATV stuff. Direct you anger where it will help instead of whinning about something so stupid.
thats easy for you to say colock, you got machine guns and rockets, lol.
Campmeat I'm with you. I reported a blatant road violation (didn't even stay on tje road) nothing happened. Waste of my time. For now on they get mountain tuneups. IMHO its not vandalism if they're trespassing.
I would have had a hard Tim not putting a full magazine into that deers hams and straps collars by my saying.........you can keep it.
Quote from: bobcat on October 23, 2011, 02:23:12 PMQuote from: CAMPMEAT on October 23, 2011, 02:11:30 PMQuote from: bobcat on October 23, 2011, 02:06:43 PMQuote from: CAMPMEAT on October 23, 2011, 07:47:29 AMATVs have nothing to do with this story. It's the guys who stole the deer and that's it. Sure it does, and the reason I asked if they were legal to be in there with ATV's, is that I don't see how he could turn those guys into law enforcement for "stealing" his deer. Where's the proof? It's his word against theirs. I don't think a game warden would be able to do anything, even if he had got license plate numbers and called it in. However, he could have turned them in for being behind a locked gate on ATV's. Very few areas here on the westside is it legal to go around gates on ATV's.Same ol' story again..................blah, blah, blah ! It's not the game wardens problem for the ATVers being behind locked gates. It's the landowners problem, it's called, TRESPASSING. Well then, if WDFW enforcement doesn't want to do anything about it, call the sheriff. Or, call the landowner. If it was on state land, call DNR enforcement. I don't care what the violation is called. It's illegal and I would have done my best to get them busted for it. You're telling me that if someone stole a deer from you, you wouldn't turn them in for being in a no-motorized area with their ATV's?Actually, no. I think it's pretty chicken sh!t myself. That was not the problem. It was the stealing of this guys deer, period. I would think more like a guy, than a whiner about ATVs. Like, if I see this guy alone, I'd beat the crap out of him. I think more old school than most guys because that's how I was raised. I'm not for turning people in for something as assnine as riding an ATV behind a closed gate. So what. It happens everday and nothing is ever done about it. It's a waste of OUR taxpayers money to tie up a cops time with something so minor. The cops have better things to do, like maybe, catch a murderer camping out at your campground or a truck prowler at trailheads. Little pukes tearing down forest service signs, pulling out cattle guards in the middle of the forest, grow operations, meth labs, wood poachers. Besides, the people that bitch about the ATVers most likely weren't even there. If you were there, then do what ya gotta do. We have too many goodie two shoes in this world that butt into other peoples business. Give it a rest for once. I'm sure all of you guys a really good people, but geeze, enough on the ATV stuff. Direct you anger where it will help instead of whinning about something so stupid.