270 and 30-06 cartridge

[ridgefire]

What would you guys suggest for a elk cartridge for both these calibers? I'm gonna have my boy shooting both guns to figure out which one he is more accurate with at longer ranges. He is 15 and can handle both guns with no problem. Both guns are Ruger Americans.

[270Shooter]

For the .270 I'd use a 150gr nosler partition

[elkrack]

For the .270 I'd use a 150gr nosler partition
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I think from your handle your a little bias

[bobcat]

Is cost a factor? If so, I'd go with the 30/06 and 180 grain Winchester Power Points. They're only $18 at Walmart.

Otherwise, with a more "premium bullet" like the Nosler Partitions or Accubonds, I'd look at 165 grain bullets in the 30/06, and 150 grain in the 270.

[MountainWalk]

I'm really really digging the 200 grain accubond in the 06.

[WAnoob]

Depends on what loads your rifle likes? The Nosler partition is an exceptional bullet, worked well for me from blacktail to moose. I like 180's and 200's in the 06. My .270 likes 130 and 140 grain, I have heard a lot of good things about the accubonds and I am looking forward to trying them myself.

[jdb]

I shot a big cow at 200 yards with 140 accubond from my 270. I hit her square in the shoulder twice. Massive exit wound and completely wrecked both shoulders. I think it's a fine elk combo

[MountainWalk]

I never put much stock in the " shoot what your guns likes best" thing. I've never shot or reloaded a single bullet or cartridge that would be considered " not accurate enough for hunting".

  My goal is to shoot killing shots. Not groups on animals.

[Rooster1981]

What would you guys suggest for a elk cartridge for both these calibers? I'm gonna have my boy shooting both guns to figure out which one he is more accurate with at longer ranges. He is 15 and can handle both guns with no problem. Both guns are Ruger Americans.

Do you reload ?  I have always been a hornady fan. My dad hunted with a 270. Shooting 140 grn btsp loaded with imr 4831 for over 40 years. I watched him tip over many elk & deer with that load.
 When I hunt modern I shoot a 30-06 loaded with hornady 165 grn sst with imr 4007sc & I can attest on how deadly that load is on elk.
Both are great elk loads. My old man would argue he could shoot farther and flatter than me. But I always enjoyed the extra knock down power from my -06. Depending on the brand of rifle the recoil is very similar.
 I don't think you can wrong with either choice.

[Elkterd]

.270 with 140 gr berger's

[jdb]

With all due respect those bergers scare me

[724wd]

Do you reload ?  I have always been a hornady fan. My dad hunted with a 270. Shooting 140 grn btsp loaded with imr 4831 for over 40 years. I watched him tip over many elk & deer with that load.

My dad's go to load was the 140 gr btsp with 58.5 grs 4831 in .270!  great combo!  these days he's dropped it to 58 grains 

[JJB11B]

.270 with 140 gr berger's

I know lots of guys that swear by 140 GR. Berger VLD's

[Rooster1981]

Do you reload ?  I have always been a hornady fan. My dad hunted with a 270. Shooting 140 grn btsp loaded with imr 4831 for over 40 years. I watched him tip over many elk & deer with that load.

My dad's go to load was the 140 gr btsp with 58.5 grs 4831 in .270!  great combo!  these days he's dropped it to 58 grains 

Nice 

[ridgefire]

I do not reload. I will have him target practicing with cheaper bullets and then try out some of the mentioned brands.

[KDB]

Nosler P 180 grain shoot great in 30-06, took a nice moose with that bullet last season.

[fastdam]

Any controlled expansion bullet of appropriate weight will do from either gun.  You should choose the one that's shooting most accurate for you.  They will both do fine and there is not much difference between them.

[coop2424]

Don't have real life on elk yet but I am shooting the 150 LRAB out of my .270 and wouldn't hesitate to use it on elk..

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

For the .270 I'd use a 150gr nosler partition

 

[dan11011]

With a 30/06 i use 150g Barnes TTSX. Great speed (2970 fps) and great performance. I've taken bear, elk, whitetail, and coyote all with this round.

Double lunged my first elk and he went less than 10 yards. However MOST North American animals double lunged with a 150g bullet will go down. Whatever shoots well will kill the elk.

[Taco280AI]

Accubonds, Partitions, TTSX would be my first choices

[Stein]

If you don't reload, head to Walmart and buy a box of 30-06 and sight it in.  You really can't buy a box of that caliber that hasn't downed tens of thousands of animals.  I would buy the core lokt, but the others will work just fine.

For reloading, I use the tsx between 165 and 180 that shoots the best.

[jasnt]

Whichever your son shoots best. Both will do just fine

[jrebel]

I do not reload. I will have him target practicing with cheaper bullets and then try out some of the mentioned brands.

.270 winchester super x 150 grain box ammo.  I have never owned a .270 that would not shoot this ammo with excellent accuracy and tremendous knock down power.  Don't spend a ton of money when this has been proven ammo for decades. 

[Bigshooter]

There was this kinda  famous guy that killed just about everything in north America with a .270.  His favorite load was 62 grains of H4831 with just about any 130gr bullet.  The .270 is pretty hard top beat.  But on the other hand so is the 30-06. 

[MountainWalk]

That same guy also killed lots with an 06 and privately noted that the 06 was better.

[Matth]

Which ever rifle your son shoots the best is the one for him. I like to shoot somthing with a bit more snort myself, but both of those rounds with well placed shots are plenty for most of the largest big game animals in North America. I watched my dad kill just about anything you would want to kill with an 30.06 180 grain core lokt bullet

[The Gobble-stopper]

My 270 flings the nosler, no matter what I do to it in handloading. But the Accubonds are spot on out to 500 yards. Given no wind. Also have great luck with Speer grand slams, and Sierra game kings. Anything in the 140 to 150 range.

[nwwanderer]

Shoot and take both along, never know what is going to happen.  How is the fit and weight on the two?  Can not go wrong either way

[lokidog]

All of the 30-06's I have shot have loved 165 grain bullets of pretty much any manufacture, 180's not so much. I don't do .270 so no input there.

[Bigshooter]

That same guy also killed lots with an 06 and privately noted that the 06 was better.

All lies.

[724wd]

All of the 30-06's I have shot have loved 165 grain bullets of pretty much any manufacture, 180's not so much. I don't do .270 so no input there.

And my old 30/06 HATED 165s!     Loved 150s and shot 180s fine, but 165s were ALL over the map!

[C-Money]

It's a can't lose issue! I have killed elk with both. Both were extremely effective.

[de0827]

I love the 150 grain Nosler Partition in my Ruger 270!  I've killed many elk (and deer) with that combination.

[lokidog]

All of the 30-06's I have shot have loved 165 grain bullets of pretty much any manufacture, 180's not so much. I don't do .270 so no input there.

And my old 30/06 HATED 165s!     Loved 150s and shot 180s fine, but 165s were ALL over the map!

I'm curious, what was it? I've shot a 1917 Eddystone, A-bolt and Remington 760 pump and they have all loved the 165.

[fc2038]

.270 with 140 gr berger's

  I second that. 270WSM 140 Grain Berger's. Drops them like a sack of crap!

[724wd]

And my old 30/06 HATED 165s!     Loved 150s and shot 180s fine, but 165s were ALL over the map!

I'm curious, what was it? I've shot a 1917 Eddystone, A-bolt and Remington 760 pump and they have all loved the 165.

It was a mauser 98 with an A&B barrel.  Sold it to a fella here on Hunt-Wa years ago.  Shot 150's great!

[Smoke]

ballisticly both guns are almost identical... only difference is easier to find heavier bullets for the 06... that being said... the 150 grn is plenty for elk with a well placed shot, so it comes down to which rifle your son likes better..

[Thefisherman83]

I use the 180gr Federal V-shock with the Bear Claw's in my 06.  Seems to get the job done just fine.

[Stump]

My son uses 180 gr, SST 3006 and he does fine as a 15 yr old stick