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Gun Buy Back
« on: January 03, 2013, 09:36:20 PM »
I heard on the news the City of Seattle is considering a gun buy back program. The mayor is concerned that his hands are tied on why he cannot pass gun laws, maybe he should take a look at the U.S. Supreme Ct. decision in i]Heller[/i].They (City of Seattle) would like to follow how Los Angeles, CA or LAPD has bought guns back from citizens.

I think its a back door way of disarming citizens their right to bear arms. It sounds good and looks good, but it stinks.

 Why not sell it to a licensed dealer or pawn shop?

Just makes me wonder why the govt is so concerned about buying guns back?.

What do others think, good or bad?

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 09:37:34 PM »
whats bad is that people would actually go along with it and sell their guns back to government.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 09:38:21 PM »
whats bad is that people would actually go along with it and sell their guns back to government.
I agree

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 09:43:18 PM »
If a law abiding person is willing to give them up that easy then they probably should not have them in the first place.

I think criminals see this as a way to get rid of crap guns for cash to upgrade or get rid of guns that may be tainted by use in a past crime.

At any rate  :twocents: is it is a waste of tax dollars........

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2013, 09:44:48 PM »
Seattle has no money to guy guns.
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2013, 09:49:03 PM »
You think it would be against some law to use tax payers dollars to support a program such as this. :dunno:

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2013, 10:06:02 PM »
I think a gun buy back would be conquered by firearms enthusiasts offering more money set up next to the cops buying the guns back.  Looking at the prices paid in other buy backs, I'd say there were some deals to be had!

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2013, 10:33:13 PM »
I haven't looked into them that much, but they dont' pass the smell test. Who on earth is going to trade a $500 gun for a $100 grocery card? Answer: a criminal who will take you up on the "No questions asked" part.

I wonder if these sham programs are increasing burglaries to pick up a few firearms to trade in.  :twocents:

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2013, 11:07:42 PM »
I'm disturbed by the term "buy back" .  Like the government owned them in the first place.  Plus, I'm curious how many of these end up back on the market. 

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2013, 11:12:35 PM »
A fool and his gun are easily separated... If you dumb enough to sell the city your gun I could really care less. There MAY be a few guns out there that are worth LESS that what you get from the city, but there is no way they will pay enough $ for a quality gun.  :twocents:
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2013, 04:44:15 AM »
lol  :bdid: enough said if someone turns on in f em  :dunno:
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2013, 06:54:00 AM »
If the beloved and ill equiped mayor wanted to remove guns from some of the citizens of Seattle, he could also raise money at the same time. How about taking guns in donation to immediately put up for sale at a new Seattle Donated Gun Show.

Although I consider the city of Seattle a pariah, I would gladly bring cash to Seattle to help disarm her citizens.

Let's all help disarm Seattle residents!
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2013, 07:44:36 AM »
These buy backs are nothing more than political grandstanding by local politicians and desined to feed the media circus. They are designed to give the illusion that somebody is "doing something" to "stop gun violence". The fact that they never reduce any discernible firearm related crime is irrelevant to the whole circus.

Anyone with half as brain could easily see the foolishness of this activity. Wait a minute...maybe that's the real benefit! If someone is stupid enough to trade in a gun for a cheap gift certificate, they probably should not possess a firearm in the first place.

Ok, guess I'm good with it.  :guns:
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2013, 07:47:23 AM »
In a similiar manner I heard this morning some areas are also doing a $25 buy back on violent video games. I'm all for that.....I've got a few lying around that I don't play and would glady wipe the dust off for some quick$$$....however, just getting into Black Ops 2 so they will have to wait for that one.

Buy back.....dumbest idea.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2013, 07:49:36 AM »
whats bad is that people would actually go along with it and sell their guns back to government.

There's worse. The government is using your money to do this. A high percentage of these guns will be disabled or broken/in bad repair and we're paying for garbage. As BC pointed out, this is also a good incentive for people to go steal firearms. These feel-good measures that liberals propose are almost always asinine. How do our citizens fall for this crap, anyway?
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2013, 08:25:23 AM »
I think a gun buy back would be conquered by firearms enthusiasts offering more money set up next to the cops buying the guns back.  Looking at the prices paid in other buy backs, I'd say there were some deals to be had!

I had that same thought. The cities seem to typically offer $100 per gun. What's to stop one of us from sitting up a table next to the front door of the 'Buy Back' program with a nice sign that offers $50 or $100 more per gun (depending on what it is).

I don't know of any laws that would prevent it.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2013, 09:21:19 AM »
I went to the gun buy back in Tacoma years ago.  All the guns were only worth 20 dollars.  Heck, I traded in a 22 Mag pistol that did not work, and when I showed it to Welcher's gun smith he said it was dangerous to shoot.  So I got 100 dollars for it... 

Good trade....   They will most likely get the same lame trade-ins as well.
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2013, 09:47:32 AM »
In my opinion, the worst part of the gun buy-backs is the historical weapons that are taken in by old grandmas or heirs of veterans etc.  I thought there was one back east where someone brought in a German MP44 (?). 

Im sure the cops keep the weapons that are worth vastly more than the $100 buy back.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2013, 04:17:52 PM »
Isn't it wonderful how the Mayor of Seattle persuaded businesses to buy Gun's back from citizens, while he cannot manage any crisis in the City. How about all the loiters/ thugs last year destroyed businesses. He just let them do it with no control.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2013, 04:22:46 PM »
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2013, 04:35:53 PM »
Seattle offers Amazon.com gift cards in exchange for guns
http://www.krem.com/news/northwest-news/186080461.html

Turn in a handgun in Seattle and pick up a $100 gift card for online shopping at Amazon.com.

The Seattle-based online retailer is kicking in $30,000.  The Seattle Police Foundation is adding $25,000. Pemco and other businesses also are contributing to push the total over $70,000.

The guns become property of the Seattle Police Department and will be destroyed.
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2013, 05:11:17 PM »
I'm disturbed by the term "buy back" .  Like the government owned them in the first place.  Plus, I'm curious how many of these end up back on the market.

The more I think about this, the more I think this is a big deal. I even fell for it in my prior post. It's not just semantics. The left is very clever to redefine a problem statement to take advantage of cleverly described semantics. It may seem trivial, but it sets the stage for later discussion and many times makes certain assumptions about an issue that are just plain false. This is a good example.

Let's counter the term "buy back", which it really isn't, because the government never owned these guns in the first place. There is nothing to "come back". Maybe a more appropriate term would be "bribe", which more suitably describes the transaction. The government needs to "bribe" people with money because they would normally not turn in their guns without some incentive. We should refer to these activities as "government gun bribery schemes", which is a more accurate description of what is going on. It has a more sinister ring to it which is also more accurate.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2013, 05:37:41 PM »
I am wondering how many legal guns are left in Seattle most of the non-criminal citizens show nothing, but distain for our second amendment rights.  So I guess we can just call it a stolen gun buy back, or a gun used in a violent crime buy back.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2013, 06:46:08 PM »
Isn't it wonderful how the Mayor of Seattle persuaded businesses to buy Gun's back from citizens, while he cannot manage any crisis in the City. How about all the loiters/ thugs last year destroyed businesses. He just let them do it with no control.

Mayor McSchwinn is a moron. As you pointed out, let's let a-holes run wild unchecked (because the police aren't allowed to do their job) and make sure insurance rates are raised. He has no spine and couldn't manage his way out of a wet paper bag.

Anyone who sells back their firearm (even though it is not a sell back as pointed out) should get in line with the 47%!!!!! This is no longer a government for the people. It is a bunch of liberals with their own agenda.

I sure hope all the voters who re-elected this moron are happy. I know some of them are firearm owners and are fuming. Well, you know what? You got what ya voted for.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2013, 07:49:53 PM »
Maybe we should develop a map of everone taking cash from the city at this event, post on the web that these people have sold their guns and have cash, address 101 N Elm St, Seattle...
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2013, 08:34:21 PM »
To me it is the government telling people that it is o.k. not to have a gun to protect your family and that we will pay you to give up that ability. 

These buybacks usually take place in a city and are focused on (in my opinion) minority groups.  I think it is racist.  Just another way of hosing the minority and at the same time telling them it is in their best interest and that the government is there to take care of them and look out for them. 

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Re: Gun Buy Back
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2013, 09:12:29 AM »
Who wants to go down and stand across the street with hundred dollar bills.  Any gun that is not worth a $100 + send them across the street to the gun buy back.  A great way to make a lot if money quickly.  Or just a sign that says assault weapon buy back for $125.  Up the antie.   :tup:

It's great when the talk about gun buy backs and the table is full of AR's, AK's, street sweepers?  Really??  If someone is that dumb to turn in a valuable piece for a $75 gift card they need their head examined.
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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2013, 09:20:08 AM »
Who wants to go down and stand across the street with hundred dollar bills.  Any gun that is not worth a $100 + send them across the street to the gun buy back.  A great way to make a lot if money quickly.  Or just a sign that says assault weapon buy back for $125.  Up the antie.   :tup:

It's great when the talk about gun buy backs and the table is full of AR's, AK's, street sweepers?  Really??  If someone is that dumb to turn in a valuable piece for a $75 gift card they need their head examined.

I would, there is a good chance my Benelli shotgun that was stolen would turn up!  Of course with a significantly shorter barrel and "thug life" carved into the stock.   

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2013, 10:03:06 AM »
I think this is a good opportunity for the gangbangers' mommies to get the illegal guns out of their homes and have a nice little shopping spree.  I agree that "buy-back" is a misnomer and has nonfrivolous implications.
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2013, 10:05:36 AM »
Wonder what they give me for a brokin Red Ryder BB gun?
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2013, 10:31:30 AM »
IM going to go down with 1200.00.  See if I can get some sweet deals!  I'll offer 100.00 more than the city. :tup:

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2013, 10:37:05 AM »
If dummies want to sell their guns to the government I don't have a problem with it. From what I heard this is being paid for with donated funds. What concerns me most is that it is an anonymous buy back, so I see the potential for guns that were used in crimes to be disposed of easily.  :twocents:

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« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2013, 10:37:35 AM »
IM going to go down with 1200.00.  See if I can get some sweet deals!  I'll offer 100.00 more than the city. :tup:
You could offer the same or less than the city, those people would take cash over a gift card in a heartbeat!

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2013, 02:23:28 PM »
IM going to go down with 1200.00.  See if I can get some sweet deals!  I'll offer 100.00 more than the city. :tup:
You could offer the same or less than the city, those people would take cash over a gift card in a heartbeat!

Ooh that sounds tempting...wish I had a couple grand laying around to try that.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2013, 03:00:58 PM »
Playing devil's advocate here, but I gotta say that this seems like the only form of "gun control" that might actually be taking bad guy's guns off the street.  I don't think any self-respecting gun owner with a CWP or someone who hunts is going to consider off-loading their guns at below market value when the market for guns is about as good as it has ever been right now.  City of Seattle has to know this I'd assume... 

These are mostly probably going to be the piece of crap guns that gang-bangers exchange on the street and I agree that probably a good number have been used in crimes.  To me it seems that these are the weapons that would be most likely used in a crime in the future.  Of course as someone mentioned, some truly worthless or broken guns might get traded in too, but who cares in that case? 

I still think it's a dumb program, but makes more sense than a lot of things.  I also agree that the city should try to turn a profit on usable weapons and auction them off in some way to responsible gun owners.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2013, 12:30:54 AM »
IM going to go down with 1200.00.  See if I can get some sweet deals!  I'll offer 100.00 more than the city. :tup:

Myself and a couple of my other friends and gun enthusiasts are planning on going down there with the same idea. We will offer any person double the value they would get from the city for the gun they are willing to give away. The only thing stopping us from 100 percent commitment is this beautiful law we found about public solicitation. Trying to figure out the finer points and loopholes to avoid anymore trouble then we plan on causing just by being there.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2013, 07:16:21 PM »
I am interested in attending this with some cash too and see what comes up. Picking up a modern sporting rifle in times like these wouldn't be a bad idea.

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2013, 09:41:37 PM »
I will be going up there with a pile of guns that are all worth less than the 100dollars they are paying.  I will be buying a new laptop later that day.  You can call me stupid if you want, but they wont be getting any guns that are worth anything from me.  It is a win win, I get their money and they get to feel better.
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2013, 09:47:48 PM »
I will be going up there with a pile of guns that are all worth less than the 100dollars they are paying.  I will be buying a new laptop later that day.  You can call me stupid if you want, but they wont be getting any guns that are worth anything from me.  It is a win win, I get their money and they get to feel better.

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Offline duckmen1

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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2013, 09:48:42 PM »
Are muzzle loaders included in the buy back
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2013, 09:49:34 PM »
Wish I could get over there for that I have  a couple I'd give up for $100.00  a piece. My throw a ways in case the intruder didn't have one in his hand when he broke into the house with me home
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Re: Gun Buy Back
« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2013, 09:59:05 PM »
 
Wish I could get over there for that I have  a couple I'd give up for $100.00  a piece. My throw a ways in case the intruder didn't have one in his hand when he broke into the house with me home
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