Quality elk tag numbers

[Skyvalhunter]

They will have to end Quality permits soon and all become Bull permits

[WSU]

I bet it goes the other way. Soon we’ll have super quality, quality, semi-quality, bull, etc.

[Skyvalhunter]

Problem is theres no quality or quantity

[WSU]

Doesn’t matter. More categories = more money.

[Stein]

Problem is theres no quality or quantity

There must be more quality, the cost is higher than the bull category.   

[fishngamereaper]

Problem is theres no quality or quantity

Guess it depends on what your gauge is.

I think calling in 10-12 bulls a day in that 280-300 class with a couple being 320-330 or a little better is a quality day.

I guess my experiences and knowledge of some of the herds is different than other peoples. 

For those few people that draw its going to be a heck of hunt.

[buglebrush]

I don't apply for Elk in Washington.   It gives me the freedom to buy whichever elk tag fills the cracks between Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, etc...  Way better states to play the draw game in. 

If they ever limit people to one draw category per year I'll be back in. 

[Bowhunter3]

Doesn’t matter. More categories = more money.

They gotta pay for that new gillnetting boat somehow 

[TriggerMike]

Is there anyway out of this hole that we're in now? Even 5-10 years ago it was exponentially better in WA. They keep citing low calf recruitment for the last 3-4 years as the culprit, what is causing the calf recruitment to be so low?

[Stein]

Is there anyway out of this hole that we're in now? Even 5-10 years ago it was exponentially better in WA. They keep citing low calf recruitment for the last 3-4 years as the culprit, what is causing the calf recruitment to be so low?

Good questions, many of us would like to see WDFW address that.

[cb1989]

Is there anyway out of this hole that we're in now? Even 5-10 years ago it was exponentially better in WA. They keep citing low calf recruitment for the last 3-4 years as the culprit, what is causing the calf recruitment to be so low?

Similar to asking why are salmon numbers down. There's 500 reasons why and everybody has their favorite. Some guys will even tell you calf recruitment isn't down, but that's almost always based on personal observation which tends to be localized and is about like making conclusions about the whole world from the top of a tree.

[Rainier10]

Is there anyway out of this hole that we're in now? Even 5-10 years ago it was exponentially better in WA. They keep citing low calf recruitment for the last 3-4 years as the culprit, what is causing the calf recruitment to be so low?

I feel like bears, cats and coyotes put a dent in calf recruitment but I also feel like I would see way more small bones if  10-20 calves were getting eaten in my area.  I don't see a huge number of bones or carcasses so that makes me a little skeptical that they are getting eaten.  Maybe when they are that small the predators eat bones and all. 

[Bango skank]

Is there anyway out of this hole that we're in now? Even 5-10 years ago it was exponentially better in WA. They keep citing low calf recruitment for the last 3-4 years as the culprit, what is causing the calf recruitment to be so low?

I feel like bears, cats and coyotes put a dent in calf recruitment but I also feel like I would see way more small bones if  10-20 calves were getting eaten in my area.  I don't see a huge number of bones or carcasses so that makes me a little skeptical that they are getting eaten.  Maybe when they are that small the predators eat bones and all. 

Cats eat most bones even from full grown deer

[Rainier10]

Is there anyway out of this hole that we're in now? Even 5-10 years ago it was exponentially better in WA. They keep citing low calf recruitment for the last 3-4 years as the culprit, what is causing the calf recruitment to be so low?

I feel like bears, cats and coyotes put a dent in calf recruitment but I also feel like I would see way more small bones if  10-20 calves were getting eaten in my area.  I don't see a huge number of bones or carcasses so that makes me a little skeptical that they are getting eaten.  Maybe when they are that small the predators eat bones and all. 

Cats eat most bones even from full grown deer

That would make sense.

[Mr Mykiss]

How about “juvenile bull” tags like they do for sheep?